Washington Examiner Reports Paul Ryan and Daughter “Bag Bucks”

That’s adult male deer, not dollars:

Deer season gave Rep. Paul Ryan the perfect father-daughter outing.

Hunting in Oklahoma over the Thanksgiving holiday, success came to the Wisconsin lawmaker and his 10-year-old daughter, Liza, making her first solo trip into the woods.

“Congressman Ryan was grateful to spend time with his family over the Thanksgiving holiday. He was able to hunt with his daughter Liza,” spokesman Kevin Seifert told Secrets.

“Both of them had successful and safe outings, each shooting a buck,” he added.

Since their hunt just ended, more details of the size of the bucks weren’t available.

But Ryan, a dedicated bowhunter, earlier said that his daughter had been hunting with him before but this was the first year she could legally hunt alone from her own stand. He added that she was practicing with a Remington 700 .243 caliber he previously bought her. The .243 is one of the most popular calibers for deer hunting because it is accurate at long distances and recoils very little.

This is so disturbing to me on so many levels that it’s hard for me to even sort them out. The idea that a man who claims to hold spiritual and religious values in such high regard is so completely unaware of — or unconcerned with — the moral and ethical problems involved in hunting for sport that he would buy his 10-year-old child a rifle and teach her how to shoot and kill a wild animal as a way to have fun, or as a way to enjoy or appreciate nature, just blows my mind.

7 comments to Washington Examiner Reports Paul Ryan and Daughter “Bag Bucks”

  • chalo

    We of the political right appreciate nature by pointlessly destroying her. It is our way.

  • Raja

    [M]oral and ethical problems involved in hunting for sport…?

    What problems? Here’s Genesis on the topic:

    Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

  • JustPlainDave

    I’m actually a lot more concerned with the moral and ethical problems inherent in the vast mass of citizenry pouring domesticated meat down their offspring’s throats without ever making them aware of how it is produced. Hunting isn’t my thing, but done properly (which can be the major challenge in that most folks don’t do it properly, MHO) I don’t see any more moral and ethical concern than with commercial meat production – in fact, in many ways it poses me a lot less concern.

    • Don Henry Ford Jr.

      Being a modern day meat producer, I resemble that fact.

      We’ve fallen a long way from offering a prayer of thanks before taking an animal’s life in order to survive.

  • Deer herds which are not subject to hunting wind up overpopulating their territory and dying in large numbers of starvation. The only natural predator remaining is man. The only objection I have to hunting is to “trophy hunting,” in which only the head is taken. So long as it is done for food as well as sport I have no problem with it, and starting at age ten is quite appropriate.

    The only problem I have with Ryan is that he was hunting from a stand. It’s common practice in Wisconsin, but I regard it as lazy and unsporting. The sport of hunting is to cut trail and then track. It’s a lot more work and requires more skill. I went on several trips without a firearm as a youngster to learn the tracking skills, and to learn how to evaluate the sex and size of a deer by the track.

    • matttbastard

      Deer herds which are not subject to hunting wind up overpopulating their territory and dying in large numbers of starvation. The only natural predator remaining is man. The only objection I have to hunting is to “trophy hunting,” in which only the head is taken. So long as it is done for food as well as sport I have no problem with it, and starting at age ten is quite appropriate.

      Yeah, this. Also what JPD said above.

  • Kathy Kattenburg

    Great comments, all of these. If anyone here has still to read Barbara Kingsolver’s “Animal, Vegetable, Miracle,” she addresses many of the points you’ve all made here. It’s possible to eat animals, to raise them to sell for meat, and to hunt and eat the animals you kill *within the context* of a respect and even reverence for non-human life, and while maintaining an awareness of the interconnectness of everything in the natural world. I don’t get the sense that Ryan is even aware there IS such a way of looking at the world, or at the value of life.

    Also, just to respond specifically to raja, because this is a pet peeve of mine: Lots of people take that passage as a justification for environmental irresponsibility — as though God were telling us to be genocidal rulers! As humans we are responsible for managing life on the planet, that doesn’t mean we are being told to destroy it. Not to mention that there are innumerable passages in the Bible that make it clear God expects us to be wise stewards of the natural world. I mean, look: Stalin, Hitler, Churchill, Abraham Lincoln, and FDR were all rulers, I don’t think anyone would say they all defined the duties of a ruler in the same way.

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