Waiting For The Other Shoe re: Petraeus: “I’m Telling You There’s More To Do Than With Sex.”

Former CIA operative Robert Baer talks with Piers Morgan re: l’affaire de Petraeus:

I’m telling you there’s more to do than with sex. There’s something going on here which I can’t explain and I think we’re going to find out very soon.

WATCH:

h/t Michael J. Totten

16 comments to Waiting For The Other Shoe re: Petraeus: “I’m Telling You There’s More To Do Than With Sex.”

  • Cheryl Rofer

    Well, the affair is certainly a sufficient reason. It could be Petraeus’s sense of honor and duty, coupled with the military prohibition against such things. Or it could be that he recognizes that his near/actual breaches of security via a GMail account is unacceptable for the head of the country’s spy agency.

    But that doesn’t preclude other problems. The timing is interesting: clearly the announcement was held until after the election, which any administration would do. The relation to Benghazi is more complex.

    Whatever, it looks like this is unraveling fairly quickly, and more is coming.

    • JustPlainDave

      It could also be that Holly is just now finding out and that this is part of trying to keep things together with her. Repairing massive damage to personal relations has got to be easier when not working the hours required of the DCI and now may actually be a good time to go. Additionally, this might also be better timing if he has any remaining political ambitions (though I personally doubt this).

  • nymole

    in any case oh, my, on this NYT post earlier this year (via Huffpo).
    How do they dig this stuff up (and why do I read it?)

  • Raja

    E-Mails From Biographer to a Third Party Led to Petraeus

    New York Times, By Scott Shane & Eric Schmitt, November 10

    Washington — The F.B.I. investigation that led to the resignation of David H. Petraeus as C.I.A. director on Friday began with a complaint several months ago about “harassing” e-mails sent by Paula Broadwell, Mr. Petraeus’s biographer, to an unidentified third person, a government official briefed on the case said Saturday.

    When F.B.I. agents following up on the complaint began to examine Ms. Broadwell’s e-mails, they discovered exchanges between her and Mr. Petraeus that revealed that they were having an affair, said the official, who spoke of the investigation on the condition of anonymity.

    The person who complained about harassing messages from Ms. Broadwell, according to the official, was not a family member or a government official. One Congressional official who was briefed on the matter on Friday said senior intelligence officials had explained that the F.B.I. investigation “started with two women.”

    “It didn’t start with Petraeus, but in the course of the investigation they stumbled across him,” said the Congressional official, who said the intelligence officials had provided no other information about the two women or the focus of the inquiry. “We were stunned.”

    [...]

    The government official dismissed a range of media speculation that the F.B.I. inquiry might have focused on leaks of classified information to the news media or even foreign spying. “People think that because it’s the C.I.A. director, it must involve bigger issues,” the official said. “Think of a small circle of people who know each other.”

    The F.B.I. investigators were not pursuing evidence of Mr. Petraeus’s marital infidelity, which would not be a criminal matter, the official said. But their examination of his e-mails, most or all of them sent from a personal account and not from his C.I.A. account, raised the possibility of security breaches that needed to be addressed directly with him.

    [...]

    But the fears of bigger security problems proved unjustified, and the security questions were resolved, two government officials said.

  • My guess: it’s all about the sex with security risks. I suspect Broadwell was emailling other women she found on Petraeus’ email address book to see if they’d slept with the General too. I have huge difficulty in believing he strayed only once. And by the by, Baer’s a hack who I wouldn’t trust to be unbiased and truthful in this if he was the last expert on earth – although admittedly not as much of a hack as Robert Johnson at Business Insider, who is gleefully transmitting the “Broadwell the vamp got her claws into him” spin from Team Petraeus. Hey, buddy, it takes two to Tango Down!

  • WaPo:

    The collapse of the impressive career of CIA Director David H. Petraeus was triggered when a woman with whom he was having an affair sent threatening e-mails to another woman close to him, according to three senior law enforcement officials with knowledge of the episode.

    The recipient of the e-mails was so frightened that she went to the FBI for protection and help tracking down the sender, according to the officials. The FBI investigation traced the threats to Paula Broadwell, a former military officer and a Petraeus biographer, and uncovered explicit e-mails between Broadwell and Petraeus, the officials said.

    …The identity of the woman who received the e-mails was not disclosed, and the nature of her relationship with Petraeus is unknown. The officials said the woman did not work at the CIA and was not Petraeus’s wife, Holly. The law enforcement officials said the e-mails indicated that Broadwell perceived the other woman as a threat to her relationship with Petraeus.

    So Broadwell thought there was a good chance Petraeus was double-cheating on her with some other woman.

  • vonbahr

    Here’s Reuters @ late Saturday night time:
    “Back to Headlines
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    . Petraeus relationship leads to book, scandal for Broadwell
    1:00 AM ET, 11/11/2012 – Reuters
    * Broadwell is a respected soldier and scholar

    * Acquaintances shocked, surprised by revelation

    * Grew up in North Dakota; high school valedictorian

    By Rick Rothacker

    CHARLOTTE, N.C., Nov 11(Reuters) – When Paula Broadwell first met David Petraeus in 2006, she was a soldier-turned-graduate student at Harvard University. The acclaimed U.S. Army general gave her his card and offered to help her with her studies.

    Broadwell soon began trading emails with the general, and four years later she was in Afghanistan turning a dissertation about his leadership into a book published this year entitled “All In.” Interviews for the book often took place on endurance-testing runs together, she would later say.

    “That was the foundation of our relationship,” Broadwell said of their runs when promoting the book on Jon Stewart’s “The Daily Show” TV program in January.

    That relationship is now at the center of a scandal that has not only ended Petraeus’ short tenure as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency but also badly tarnished the reputation of a revered military leader.

    And it has raised awkward questions about whether the White House had any inkling of the problem before the Nov. 6 presidential election.

    Until now, the 40-year-old wife and mother of two young children had appeared to excel at juggling scholarly pursuits, family life, a military career, triathlons, charity work and even demonstrations for a machine gun manufacturer.

    “She has obviously achieved a lot in her field as a soldier and a scholar,” said Ed Williams, a neighbor who lives two houses down from Broadwell, in a leafy, affluent Charlotte, North Carolina, neighborhood.

    “Everyone is surprised and shocked,” Williams said.

    Earlier in the week, Williams, a retired editor, saw Broadwell with her two children when she was voting in last week’s U.S. presidential election. He said she was chatty and cheerful. Neighbors were working on putting together a belated party in honor of her book.

    “She gave no indication all this was going on,” Williams said.

    Broadwell did not return emails or calls. A 40th birthday party for her had been scheduled at her brother and sister-in-law’s home in Washington, D.C. on Saturday, but invitees received an e-mail saying it had been canceled.

    ACCOMPLISHED FROM EARLY AGE

    A man who answered the door at the home told a reporter to get off the property. Three bags, displaying the name of a cupcake bakery, were on the front porch.

    Broadwell grew up in North Dakota, where in high school she was valedictorian, student council president, homecoming queen and an all-state basketball player, according to a biography on the Century High School web site.

    She went on to the U.S Military Academy at West Point, where she graduated with academic, fitness and leadership honors, according to a biography promoting a speech to the World Affairs Council of Charlotte. She has held positions in the U.S. intelligence community, U.S. Special Operations Command and FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces, according to the bio.

    Later, she would add degrees from the University of Denver’s Josef Korbel School of International Studies and Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government. She is also a PhD candidate at King’s College, London.

    In her book, she says she was recalled to active duty three times to work on counterterrorism issues after the Sept 11 attacks and joined the U.S. Army Reserve. In August, Broadwell was promoted to lieutenant colonel, according to the Army.

    Among her many military-related activities, Broadwell has been a “valued member” of the Warlord Loop, an elite invitation-only email forum that has about 500 national security specialists as members, said John Collins, who runs the group.

    “She remains a member and I predict no change in her status,” he said in an email on Saturday.

    Broadwell is also featured in videos for a machine gun manufacturer. On her LinkedIn site, she lists “KRISS Vector .45 cal Demonstrator/Model” under her experience. The company couldn’t immediately be reached for comment.

    About three years ago, Broadwell settled in Charlotte with her husband, Scott, who is a radiologist in a Charlotte medical group. Their home is valued at $908,500, according to county property records. Over the years, the family has alternated moves based on each other’s career opportunities.

    “It was his turn,” Williams, the neighbor said.

    In her book’s acknowledgements, Broadwell says her husband played “Mr. Mom” for her two boys while she was in Afghanistan and Washington “and shielded them from the concerns about their adventure-seeking mother’s travels in a third-world country.”

    Her husband “showed admirable tolerance for my absence and the many late nights and early mornings at the computer; I am grateful to have such an amazing and supportive partner,” she added. The book is dedicated to “my three favorite troopers” – her husband and two boys – and “to those who serve.”

    The acknowledgements gives “special thanks” to Petraeus’ wife, Holly.

    ‘STRATEGIC INITIATIVE’ IN WARS

    In the past year, Broadwell has been busy promoting her book with TV appearances and speeches. Written with Washington Post editor Vernon Loeb, the book received positive reviews, with author Doris Kearns Goodwin calling it “majestic.”

    In the preface, Broadwell writes that history has yet to fully judge Petraeus’ service in Iraq and Afghanistan but “there is no denying that he achieved a great deal during his thirty-seven-year Army career, not the least of which was regaining the strategic initiative in both wars that followed September 11, 2001.”

    While noting his critics fault him for “ambition and self-promotion,” she writes that his “energy, optimism and will to win stand out more for me.” In the acknowledgements, she thanks Petraeus for a “once-in-a-lifetime” education as well as “his candor, trust and support.”

    On “The Daily Show,” Stewart teased her about the book’s admiring tone for the now 60-year-old Petraeus.

    “The real controversy here is, ‘Is he awesome or incredibly awesome?'” Stewart said.

    Playing along, Broadwell quipped: “He can turn water into bottled water.”

    At the show’s end, Broadwell, who lists running, skiing, triathlons and kickboxing among her interests, challenged the host to a push-up contest, with the loser making a donation to a wounded warriors organization. Stewart brought Broadwell’s husband on stage to do push-ups with him, but still lost.

    Broadwell has remained in the news recently. Earlier this month, she donated a parachute jump she had scheduled for her birthday to a wounded veteran, according to the Charlotte Observer newspaper. She also authored an article for “Newsweek” magazine called “General David Petraeus’s Rules for Living.”

    No. 5: “We all will make mistakes. The key is to recognize them and admit them, to learn from them, and to take off the rear view mirrors – drive on and avoid making them again.”

  • Kathleen Pistono

    It’s never about the sex. See Arthur Silber: Seriously, America? It’s Never the Sex, Revisited

  • Raja

    Reuters’ Petraeus timeline

    [...]

    Week of October 21: Federal investigators interview Broadwell.

    Week of October 28: Federal investigators interview Petraeus. Prosecutors conclude afterward they likely will not bring criminal charges.

    Tuesday, November 6, Election Day, at about 5 p.m.: the FBI notifies Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who oversees the CIA and other intelligence agencies, about Petraeus. Clapper speaks to Petraeus that evening and again Wednesday and advises him to step down.

  • Jill Kelly (pics here), the woman Broadwell was harassing, is the State liason to JSOC in Tampa. She was working there while Petraeus was at Centcomm, in Tampa. Her hubbie is in medicine, just like Broadwell’s, and just like Broadwell she has a career where she can say “I can’t tell you, dear, it’s classified”

    Anyone see a pattern here?

    I’d guess we’re looking at an other-other-woman. Probably not the only one.

  • Raja

    Top U.S. Commander in Afghanistan Is Linked to Petraeus Scandal

    New York Times, By Elizabeth Bumiller, November 13

    Perth, Australia – Gen. John R. Allen, the top American and NATO commander in Afghanistan, is under investigation for what a senior defense official said early Tuesday was “inappropriate communication’’ with Jill Kelley, the woman in Tampa, Fla., who was seen as a rival for David H. Petraeus’s attentions by Paula Broadwell, who had an extramarital affair with Mr. Petraeus.

    In a statement released to reporters on his plane en route to Australia early Tuesday, Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta said that the F.B.I. on Sunday had referred “a matter involving” General Allen to the Pentagon.

    Mr. Panetta turned the matter over to the Pentagon’s inspector general to conduct an investigation into what a defense official said were 20,000 to 30,000 pages of documents, many of them e-mails between General Allen and Ms. Kelley, who is married and has children.

    • Raja

      Paula Broadwell claims about Benghazi attack dismissed as ‘baseless’ by CIA

      Woman who had affair with David Petraeus gave speech about the CIA chief’s handling of the Libya assault last month

      The Guardian, By Matt Williams, November 12

      New York – The CIA has dismissed as “baseless” and “uninformed” claims made by the former lover of ex-agency chief David Petraeus that Libyan militants were held in secret US prisons prior to the deadly Benghazi consulate attack.

      Paula Broadwell, the biographer whose affair with Petraeus led to his abrupt resignation Friday, alleged that the assault, in which US ambassador Christopher Stevens was killed, was an attempt to free men being detained in a covert CIA annex.

      Speaking last month at the University of Denver, Broadwell further alleged that Petreaus knew about the secret holding cells.

    • Raja

      Barack Obama puts Gen John Allen’s Nato nomination on hold

      President Barack Obama has delayed General John Allen’s nomination as Nato’s supreme commander pending a probe into his email correspondence with Jill Kelley, the woman at the centre of the David Petraeus sex scandal.

      The Telegraph, November 13

      “At the request of the secretary of defense, the president has put on hold his nomination of Gen Allen as SACEUR (Supreme Allied Commander Europe) pending the investigation of Gen Allen’s conduct by the Department of Defense IG (inspector general),” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said.

      Gen Allen, US commander in Afghanistan, is under investigation for “inappropriate” emails to Mrs Kelley, the woman linked to former CIA director Gen Petraeus, it has emerged.

      The latest twist in the unfolding controversy, disclosed to reporters aboard the US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta’s plane, suggested the probe into Gen Petraeus’ shock resignation is widening yet further.

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