And somewhat resentful. But the poor guy tried!

What say you?

http://mauberly.blogspot.com/

Great pic. They look to be out of sync. Not surprising since healthy sexual experimentation is never mentioned in the bible.

_{Tolerating prostitution is tolerating abuse and torture of women and children.}

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We need a NATION WIDE STRIKE for Real healthcare reform

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Ol’ Chuck Norris seems to have bitten off a little more than his punchdrunk brain can handle:

Lastly, as we near the eve of another Christmas, I wonder: What would have happened if Mother Mary had been covered by Obamacare? What if that young, poor and uninsured teenage woman had been provided the federal funds (via Obamacare) and facilities (via Planned Parenthood, etc.) to avoid the ridicule, ostracizing, persecution and possible stoning because of her out-of-wedlock pregnancy? Imagine all the great souls who could have been erased from history and the influence of mankind if their parents had been as progressive as Washington’s wise men and women! Will Obamacare morph into Herodcare for the unborn?

Okay, Chuck, I’ll bite. Your argument that Mary would have actively sought out an abortion if she had access to federally funded health care is, as those wacky LEET kids say, invalid. Do you really think Mary, who, according to Luke, was completely stoked when the Holy Spirit told her she was going to be the Mother of God,* and who had the emotional and fiscal support of her fiancé, would have been the slightest bit interested in an abortion after hearing that?

More to the point, the if there had been universal health care (and modern science) available 2,000+ years ago, Mary could have had given birth to the child she WANTED in a clean, comfortable hospital bed, instead of on a dirt floor, surrounded by barnyard animals, all the while facing the distinct possibility of not surviving the birth. Under your Teabagger Health Care plan, poor, uninsured, unwed pregnant teens would be relegated to giving birth in unsanitary conditions . . . assuming, of course, that they weren’t forced to resort to back-alley abortions and death by sepsis. And once all those potential Jesuses enter the real world? Well, that’s not your concern, is it. It’s always been about maintaining the tyranny of the fetus with you guys, never about the child, once it’s born. Too bad babies born to poor, uninsured, unwed mothers don’t come with bootstraps.

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also see:

http://rawstory.com/2009/12/norris-obamacare-killed-jesus/

Notice this sequence of events:

Around 50 AD Mark writes his gospel and has little positive to say about Mary. There is no Annunciation, no Virgin birth, no Joseph, no census, no trip to Bethlehem, no swaddling of the baby Jesus in a manger, no star over the stable, no angels saying Gloria in excelsis Deo, no visit by the Magi, no dream by Joseph, no slaughter of the innocents by Herod, no flight to Egypt, and no talking donkey (we have to wait for Shrek to get a talking donkey). The only prominent thing Mary does in Mark's gospel is bring out Jesus' many brothers and sisters in a sort of intervention, to have him brought home and incarcerated on the grounds of insanity. Jesus disowns his mother and family after that.

About twenty years later some Roman writers begin to notice this cult around Jesus and they ask some questions. They come up with an ugly picture. Jesus was born out of wedlock. His mother was a "hairdresser" in Galilee, which implies she sold her body for a living. For a while she lived with a Roman centurion named Pantera, and for at least two hundred years after this Jesus was known as Jesus Pantera (there are other explanations for this name than the pagan one). Jesus learned magic tricks and spells while studying with the priests in Egypt. Jesus became a troublemaker for both the Romans and the Jews and was put to death in a disgraceful manner. His followers made up stories about his resurrection.

Now we come to around 75 when Matthew and Luke were independently writing their gospels, using as a source a document we have lost that consisted of stories and sayings about Jesus. Matthew and Luke are in many respects indistinguishable because of this common source. They and the source deal with the criticisms by gentiles and Jews of Jesus. Jesus was a bastard son of a Roman soldier and his prostitute mother; no, there was the virgin birth, and Joseph. Jesus was not of the House of David and therefore could not be the Messiah; no, there was a census and Mary and Joseph had to go to Bethlehem to register, proving they were of the House of David. Plus Herod slaughtered all first born Jews who could possibly claim to be the Messiah, but through God's intervention Jesus was saved. Jesus was a magician who learned sorcery in Egypt: yes and no, there was a flight to Egypt, but Jesus was a true worker of miracles and therefore the greatest magus ever. Even famous magi came to honor him at his birth.

And so on. Chuck Norris probably does not want to deal with the fact that only two of the four gospels mention anything about the "Christmas birth" stories. You would think Mark and John would have heard of these spectacular events and written about them too. The fact that they didn't means the Christmas stories are apologies invented to deal with growing criticism of the Jesus cult. They are myth and fantasy, drawing in part on well known virgin birth myths common at the time in other religions. Sorry Chuck, but the least of your worries is whether Jesus would be aborted under Obamacare.

p.s. Sorry if I ruined your Christmas

They did a reconstruction of Q using philological analysis or some such technique to extract the original from the two versions found in Matthew and Luke. With this technique you get a short Sayings of Jesus book. It sold surprisingly well for something this obscure, meaning that a broader, intelligent public beyond Biblical scholars has taken an interest in all this research. Perhaps that too is enough to disturb Meier. Once you start making something like Q broadly accessible to the public, you have to start imagining and inventing things, which may explain the novels on Q that have started to appear. That's about when any scholar would throw up their hands in horror.