Cheney & Iran: Here We Go Again?


Cheney & Iran: Here We Go Again?
Juan Cole | August 30

Barnett Rubin relays a message from a well-connected friend in Washington on the Cheney Administration's plans to roll out a military confrontation with Iran in September. He writes at the Global Affairs blog:

" My friend had spoken to someone in one of the leading neo-conservative institutions. He summarized what he was told this way:

They [the source's institution] have "instructions" (yes, that was the word used) from the Office of the Vice-President to roll out a campaign for war with Iran in the week after Labor Day; it will be coordinated with the American Enterprise Institute, the Wall Street Journal, the Weekly Standard, Commentary, Fox, and the usual suspects. It will be heavy sustained assault on the airwaves, designed to knock public sentiment into a position from which a war can be maintained. Evidently they don't think they'll ever get majority support for this--they want something like 35-40 percent support, which in their book is "plenty."

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Tina August 30, 2007 - 1:52pm
( categories: Iran | MSM Criticism | USA: Presidency )

a couple of days ago:

"IMO, what is required vigilance on the "real men bomb Tehran" front is when Bigtime weighs in, crawling from under his rock at the Naval Observatory and start trawling the Sunday blatherfests, and/or "exclusive interviews" with right-wing ranters. Sure, we get the expected tosh from MNF-I people, Junior hyperventilating in front of droopy-dick veterans groups, DC politicos and pro-war thinktank operatives hitting the op/ed pages...but, watch out for Bigtime when he launches his "roll-out"...that's when it's ALL SYSTEMS GO."

Remember, "...we now know that Saddam Hussein...", "...simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein...", "...absolutely sure that Saddam Hussein...".

You bet it's his call.



“les Etats-unis, c’est le seul pays à être passé de la préhistoire à la décadence sans jamais connaitre la civilisation…”...Georges Clemenceau

barrisj redux August 30, 2007 - 3:38pm

that there isn't a vast right wing conspiracy? We even know its leader, Dirty Dick Cheney.

Now that we know their schedule and their agenda, it should be interesting to observe which facets of the media align themselves with Cheney's plot to bomb Iran without public support or permission from Congress. What will Keith Olberman say?

It should also be interesting to parse their upcoming rhetoric. Will they whip out a variation of "smoking gun = mushroom cloud?" How exactly will BushCo's propaganda ministers (Roger Ailes, et al) frame Cheney's paranoia this time around? Has anybody in the media noticed that America is bankrupt from Cheney's last pair of warlike fiascoes?

I am convinced that Dick Cheney is insane, driven so by the obvious signs of his own short future. Knowing that, he is ruthlessly exploiting the limited resources of our nation to push forward his own delusional vision of Empire USA, controlled by the chieftains of the major oil corporations. EUSA will bully the countries of the middle east to sell us oil at cut rate prices until it all runs out.

And what then, genius??? Cheney's dark tunnel vision extends not a single day beyond that, nor in any alternate directions. He's a hound dawg with blinders, and he smells oil!

Dick Cheney thinks he is the noble Cardinal Richelieu, the secret power and wisdom behind the throne. Instead, Dick is nothing more than a sneaky, myopic dumbass whose "vision" is a tired delusion regurgitated from egotistical popcorn philosophers like libertarian Ayn Rand and fascist Leo Strauss.

Over the next few weeks we get to witness the unfortunate fireworks produced by putting such freeeks in power. Hold onto your hats.

"Death before being dishonored any more." - Col. Ted Westhusing

Jimbo92107 August 30, 2007 - 3:50pm

's greed

(Scarface)

It's much more plausible that it's a corporate (military-industrial and oil) plot. After all the Bushites are oil-men, and those two groups stand to gain a whole lot from this sort of stupidity in the form of military spending and increased oil prices.

NateTG August 30, 2007 - 4:00pm

That might be the last nail in the Repub-Neo con admin.
They may fail and then it's impeachment time, Big Time, Monkey Face,
and for a whole bunch of miscreants.
Iran is not Irak and should the US use nukes, well
I won't elaborate on that.

Jelco Cathlon August 30, 2007 - 3:53pm

is like watching cops do nothing to stop a bank robbery in progress.

"Death before being dishonored any more." - Col. Ted Westhusing

Jimbo92107 August 30, 2007 - 4:40pm

in the mean time?

dk August 30, 2007 - 5:58pm

do you mean Gulf of Tonkin-style?

Otherwise American soldiers being killed by Iranian supplied explosive devices that penetrate most armoured vehicles used in Iraq. That being condensed to Iraq is causing our brave boys to die. Michael Gordon of the NYT and even some Democrats returning from junkets certainly seem to be saying that.Iran helping radical Shiites to destabilize the government(:-) etc etc.Domestically, Iran jailing Iranian -Americans as spies, cracking down on individual freedoms.....

On the nuclear side, I don't think there's anything new except the fear factor and focusing on Iran's unpredictable Mr, A.

I don't think it will be one cause, but a number taken together. I guess we'll see.

1."George Washington did not cross the Delaware for Capitalism," -Shmuley Boteach.
2.The Dems haven't punished the GOP enough, so you're going to reward the Republicans?

nymole August 30, 2007 - 11:10pm

not 9/11 style.
between Chertoff's "gut feelings", the resignation of Chicago's chief emergency officer, the recent hysteria in Seattle and at LAX, the billion dollar call options, and those black helicopters that keep flying around Chicago, I don't feel so good.

dk August 31, 2007 - 6:48am

thing all about?

LJ August 31, 2007 - 9:55am

You just have Israel attack Iran directly due to some drummed up event, Iran respondes, and then the USA "is required" to fulfill its obligation to Israel by bombing the ever-loving hell out of Iran. You don't need a 9/11 or Gulf of Tonkin when you're closely allied with the biggest powderkeg in the Mid-East.

The best part is it takes the blame off the USA as we can point the finger at Israel and if Iran is in a smoking heap Israel could give a damn what the rest of us think of them.

No reason to gin up a complex solution, the old standbys still work just fine.

zot23 August 31, 2007 - 12:05pm

I thought they were something survivalists in Idaho talked about. but I saw one on the ground in an empty field , just south of Congress east bank of the south branch of the Chicago River. wait this is easier, just north of River City
http://www.rivercitycondos.com/residences/location.asp

it was sitting there w/ a couple EMS trucks and a regular looking helicopter. It didn't look military, just painted entirely black w/ some large canister thing on the front. it seemed really odd just sitting there. wiki has some explanations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_helicopters

probably belongs to Global Options, where Cortez Trotter went:
http://www.wittassociates.com/5907.xml

Tuesday night there was a helicopter circling over my hood for @ 20 minutes, when I came outside w/ my binoculars his lights were right on me, then he veered off. after my eyes stopped hurting, I did get to enjoy the full moon w/ the binoculars. I think that one belonged to the city tho, I know we have at least 2. but this ain't LA, if it were there'd be copters every night. but it was diverting the usual flow of eastbound O'hare traffic that flies over my house. they look like this:
http://chicagoist.com/2006/01/12/cpds_new_eye_in_the_sky.php

dk August 31, 2007 - 6:19pm

some spraying for some new kind of mosquito that carries West Nile Virus and encephalitis. The spray has the added upgrade which makes you love the government.

LJ August 31, 2007 - 6:29pm

The former contractor finally concluded that the model was intended for Iran. This anecdote is also inconclusive, but it is consistent with the depth of planning that went into the reconstruction effort in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Here's the point. Even though you might be tempted to snort that there wasn't any depth to the planning. But more importantly, remember even that planning was meant for an invasion. There can be no way these idiots are planning to invade Iran.

So what does this mean? It either casts doubt on the source or....

LJ August 30, 2007 - 6:49pm

...strike on camps allegedly being used to train the Jaysh al-Mahdi splinter groups (and maybe something aimed at putting direct pressure on the IRGC), but I'm pretty dubious that we'd see that ramp to initiating something like CONPLAN 8022. It'd be deadly stupid (and hugely counter-productive), but I wouldn't be flabbergasted.

"The spectacle of this great nation which does not know its own mind is as humiliating as it is dangerous." ~ Walter Lippmann

JustPlainDave August 30, 2007 - 11:16pm

First, the kind of war that this army does best at is during the initial stages. The public tends to rally around a successful attack on an enemy prior to our getting bogged down. The Republican-Neo-Con logic may well be that a carefully timed assault could 1) rally the voters in time for the next election, and 2) obligate the next administration to mop up/continue the aggression (America feels a responsibility to fix what we break). And they may fear that a new administration will sit on their hands and allow Iran to get the bomb. The only way they can force the next president to attack is to initiate it before he or she takes office.

Second, if Iran is reading the same things I'm reading, and remembers the pre-emptive attack on Iraq, it might just figure that it's best shot is to strike first and reduce the number of missiles that will be fired at it. So when they conclude that things are about to explode, they might pull the trigger first. Indeed, either side, using Bush's logic that you don't wait for an enemy to pounce, could initiate a major disaster.

don2005 August 31, 2007 - 1:10am

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