If you didn't get . . .


. . . a chance to listen to my segment on the radio Friday night with Jane Hamsher of firedoglake I will do my level best to get a clip of that segment. In the meantime read this post of hers at firedoglake. It's hugely instructive and nails down a lot of what we discussed Friday night. Blogs cannot exist without the major daily papers, as I have said before. But the daily papers don't realize yet just how important a resource (perhaps even a treasure trove of depth) they could pick up dirt cheap in bloggers right now. Of course they won't.

That's going to take a lot of VC money, followed by wildly inflated prices before the papers figure it out (and some bloggers get very wealthy). But it will happen, of that I have no doubt whatsoever. In the meantime, as Jane says, "the habits of journalists that have been entrenched over centuries [won't crumble] without great reluctance."


Sean Paul Kelley January 2, 2006 - 12:22pm

as it highlights the organic power shift which is occuring among net users and the lesons that large corporate media must learn if they are going to operate successfully there.  

freedom.  

it is the ten dollah word.  

if it is willing to allow openness and freedom then the large coproration can buy up these types of properties and operat them successfully.

if they are unwilling to allow freedom then the users will move on in two seconds and a property bought for 580m$ will be worth butt lint.

http://news.com.com/Lesson+for+Murdoch+Keep+the+bloggers+happy/2100-1025_3-6015111.html?part=rss&amp
;tag=6015111&subj=news

flambeee January 2, 2006 - 4:29pm

stinks.  

it should be shut down today and replaced with a shit pile which smells much better.  

arise fair blog and kill the envious shit pile!

flambeee January 2, 2006 - 12:35pm

I enjoyed the segments with Jane from firedoglake and John from Crooks and Liar.  

It'd be cool to have ReddHedd on there.  I really like her legal analysis.  

SilverOwl January 2, 2006 - 1:31pm

sold weblogs to aol for 20+m$.  

http://www.weblogsinc.com/

flambeee January 2, 2006 - 12:29pm

New member, heard your interview with Jane as I'm an active firedoglaker.  Nice to meet you, will enjoy visiting your informative and busy blog.  

I vote to Impeach.

zen

zennurse January 2, 2006 - 11:24am

would you take to a VC? Curious how that would work. Is it all google hits?

mauberly January 2, 2006 - 9:39am

because once a couple of the bloggers hit critical mass by capturing a significant audience, there will be set in motion a series of events which will demand that journalists change their habits in order to survive.

as Jane says, "the habits of journalists that have been entrenched over centuries [won't crumble] without great reluctance."

flambeee January 2, 2006 - 4:43pm

did. They finagled somewhere between $3.5-7 million from some VC folks. Not sure exactly what their model was but I do have some pretty good ideas. And I think it's doable and we'll see more of it, but not quite yet. What we might see if some consolidation, or aggregation this year. Bands of bloggers coming together to form networks, more linked and less loose than our 'Advertise Liberally' network. Does this help? And it would be a combo of google analytics/sitemeter/alexa/yahoo! buzz rank that would really sell the 'sell'.  

Sean Paul Kelley January 2, 2006 - 12:00pm

I would vote to impeach as well. But, I want a twofer; Bush and Cheney!

ww January 2, 2006 - 12:48pm

Zen. The more the merrier. I am thinking that resignation may be more likely, re Cheney, WW.

Scott M January 2, 2006 - 1:20pm

I listened to your radio broadcast, I had googled and found articles on just about every claim your callers made or refuted, and within minutes. Many I found via blogs. They had the important graphs listed almost right at the start of their posts, which elliminated any need to dig through the garbage that is part of a MonoMedia article.

If the newsrooms really wanted to have strong, well researched stories, they could do no worse then hire a blogger such as myself and I could run through all the various blogs and find what they needed.

Rook January 2, 2006 - 2:14pm

wasn't necessarily selling content--he was selling technology IMHO. This year or next will be the year of selling content and blogs that have to a certain extent . . . well, I don't want to give away too much now, do I?

Sean Paul Kelley January 2, 2006 - 12:34pm

come from ads accompanying pages filled with content. as well they devlped the compny with a network in mind to achieve econmies of scale.  if the software platform takes off, it will be a bonus...

flambeee January 2, 2006 - 12:40pm

daily papers. we need the information gathering power they have, the ability to process and gather all that raw stuff. A good analogy is like this: daily papers are like the NSA gathers all kinds of SIGINT every day and delivers it to the CIA/DIA/INR etc. . . . to analyze. The daily papers are like the NSA and the blogs, if utilized properly are like the analysts in the intel agencies, putting together a product Ma and Pa Q. Citizen can use to make informed decisions. Make sense?

Sean Paul Kelley January 2, 2006 - 12:40pm

I need the 5 year old version please.

Sean Paul Kelley January 2, 2006 - 12:41pm

a monster crisis and as bad as things have gotten they are not even close to bottom yet.  

it will be ugly (though beautiful to some (-:), heads will roll and then more heads will roll.  blogs will assist in the spurring of this crisis as they more and more uncover major media for the sham it is.  nevertheless, blogs will get eaten up by big media and consoldiated.  ultimately, everyone will be much better off as blogs spur accountability and integrity back into the material most consume daily.

anyway, this my preliminary and rough roadmap...

flambeee January 2, 2006 - 12:49pm

that could come to earn them a significant pile of money.

however, when calacanis and alvey envisioned the company and then founded and grew it, they did so in an attempt to add economies of scale to the classic blog model.  they figured that if they ran one or two succeful blogs, they could make tens of thousands of dollars from adsense and so forth if they worked their brains out but if they brought together a hundred blogs and consolidated the back end, advertising, etc then they could make millions of dollars.  i can imagine a day when they have a thousand well developed blogs in their networdk getting tens of millions of hits/day.  this is content and for now anyway, they have found a number of good enough bloggers who work for a reasonable enough wage to make the model work.  these guys are indeed producing content...

(ps: this last fact, btw, could be an achilles heel eventually if as i suspect a few very talented bloggers become huge and reach serious celbrity status this year or perhaps next thus garnering much more wage leverage)

(pps:  by getting bought by aol, they also now have an avenue to greatly enhance traffic.  they swear that the new owners have pledged to keep hands off any editorial directives.  we will see...  this is where you will see the consolidation.  other media cos. will devlop or buy their own networks.  matter of time b4 pajamas gets taken...)

flambeee January 2, 2006 - 1:03pm

too.

Sean Paul Kelley January 2, 2006 - 1:18pm

soon, but I do htink she might have some issues of anonymity. But, I am going to ask.

Sean Paul Kelley January 2, 2006 - 2:48pm

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