A National Commonwealth


John Kay in the Financial Times makes an astute observation, and couples it with a stark prediction:

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were probably the world’s most heavily supervised financial institutions, subject to a specialist agency, the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight. The office employed 236 people at the time of its last annual report. OFHEO did not fail because it was understaffed or not well informed about Fannie Mae’s activities, but because it lacked authority. The entire staff earned less in aggregate than Franklin Raines, the aggressive chief executive who masterminded Fannie’s expansion.

Like Martin Wolf, I yearn for a world in which regulators would moderate the inherent instability of the financial system. But my yearning is tempered by modest expectations of what regulation can achieve. Martin’s realism, which I share, acknowledges that public expectations are much higher and politicians will claim to respond to these expectations. But the politicians will fail. The next financial crisis will be different in origin and the rules that will be introduced to close the doors of today’s empty stables will prove irrelevant.

This is why our present crisis is a constitutional crisis. It is not a crisis of finance as such, but a crisis of the governing mandate. Governments take over companies all of the time. Many governments have run important parts of the infrastructure. The US government runs a bank, The Federal Reserve. In fact, one of the first acts of the new government under the Constitution of 1787 was to charter The Bank of the United States.

The problem now is not that governments lack power, or that regulations have been lacking; it is that the mandate of the United States Government has been to keep the land casino open at all costs. The pieces that are falling are the direct result of this mandate of "socialism for suburbanism." What we are seeing now is a response very similar to Hoover's days in office, or Abraham Lincoln's disastrous first year in office, where there was a willingness to do anything except the things that would actually end the political and economic crisis.

The key requirement for a constitutional president is flexibility. McCain is flexible, but in all of the wrong ways. He will do anything except what is necessary. Obama is rigid and inflexible. McCain does not admit there is a problem; Obama admits there is a problem with everything, except with himself. McCain never admits he is wrong. Obama never admits he was wrong. As a result, at the very moment when political and economic forces have converged, Americans have selected two candidates for the nation's highest office who lack the only qualifications which are relevant.

There has been a great deal of commentary on how a theoretically free market ideology Executive is now busy nationalizing the financial sector. It has taken on trillions in assets to manage, and has essentially stepped in as that liberal animal: the state as buyer, seller, lender, borrower, and insurer of last resort. This means that the state needs to collect enough in taxes to fulfill these functions. Anyone talking "tax cuts" is simply being irresponsible. And yet, John McCain, with his economic advisor being a serial anti-preneur, is doing this. And Barack Obama is doing this. It is difficult to be enthusiastic about a candidate who is running behind his party identification, and who is bringing in a wave of blue dogs and conservative Democrats has his coat tails. Obama's mantra has been "less of the same" - Bush Lite.

Instead this is, as people now sense, a constitutional moment. Constitutional moments occur when the fundamental mechanism of commerce - currency - falls apart. It falls apart when those assets which back it are no longer accepted. There have been four times in American history that this has happened.

The first was during the colonial era, when the paper money that had been printed collapsed, requiring of going to the silver standard. This colonial crisis was met with a shift in power to Great Britain, which appointed governors and enforced regulations on trade and commerce. This met with a revolt from the colonies, which would become a Revolution a generation later.

The second occurrence was the collapse of the confederation with its separate State monetary systems. In effect the American Revolution attempted to restore the monetary order that existed before the imposition of mercantilism on the colonies. The result was the inflation which had made that order collapse. The problem was not a monarchy, but a monarchy unresponsive to its people. The solution was the Constitution of 1787, and the assumption of Revolutionary war debt, the creation of a proto-central bank, and the establishment of silver as the specie of the new government. This would last until the Jacksonian Revolt abolished the Bank of the United States, and usher in the era of "free banking."

This era collapsed in the 1850's, and formally so when Buchanan ended the acceptance of silver as payment. This crisis was the most severe in the nation's history, because Buchanan did not abolish the store of wealth of one interest group, namely slaveowners. The civil war was fought over whether there would be unlimited expansion of slavery, which would have allowed the slavogarchy to store wealth as slaves. Slaves do not work as labor or capital, but they do work as a means of storing value. The one thing the North could not permit was slavery in the territories, and the one thing the South needed was new lands to impose the plantation system upon. Hence, war. The solution to this crisis was the National Banking system, and eventually a de facto gold standard, with a small amount of silver money used to prop up the economy.

This solution would hold until the creation of stock as a secondary currency, which was backed by coöperation between large banks. The gold-stock dual money system, like previous dual money systems, was vulnerable to the extent that in the end all speculative money must be paid back in hard money. As soon as hard money becomes too hard, the speculative money collapses. A democratic revolt has two prongs: one populist, for greater participation in a system which was created to limit freedom of a given electorate so that debts could be repaid (in effect, a constitutional agreement by one legislature to bind the hands of others); the other an elite prong that wants the unlimited creation of speculative money in order to bid on assets, each one of which could be worth all of future revenues. Speculative money, by definition, creates more to be bid on than can exist.

This separation of value led eventually a the stock market bubble, and then to the collapse of the banking system in 1929-1932. The solution was to end the gold standard, and instead make the value of dollars be based on the value of assets, particularly land.

This liberal constitutional order was, in its moment, a brilliant stroke of luck. No one designed it in the way that Hamilton designed the Federalist Republic's monetary order; it did not have time to evolve in the way that the Union's monetary order evolved over the course of almost a decade. Instead, it was born a bastard child in a few short weeks.

The key construction of a constitutional order is government assumption of all previous debts, the creation of a new basis for currency, and a means to push economic activity which will generate this new basis. In order: silver, gold, developed land. The economic game that is created is to make a political framework within which competing interests can vie for the control of this future store of wealth.

It is not ironic that the crisis of an order often centers around the control of future value in the old monetary order. Often reactionary forces control (or attempt to control) the means of creation of future value, and use this to prop up old value. This is because there is no wealth that exists by itself; wealth must be maintained, and the cost of maintaining it grows over time. It is at the point where all of the profits of the future are burned supporting wealth stored by the past, where the living work for the dead, that the constitutional order falls, because its money falls. It cannot keep all of its promises yet provide an incentive to work in the future. The rip becomes a pair of coalitions which are often very strange bedfellows. Those who have been most aggressive in pursuing the kinds of value that make up the future are often the most reactionary, because they hope to leverage that control into a permanent command of the economy. Those who hope to disrupt the present order often have a lagging control of the nascent assets, but have more of the potential growth if only previous claims in silver, gold, and revenue streams from mortgages are removed.

The complete lack of understanding of this historical process by current political parties, is the sign that while we could rearchitect the financial system, we cannot rearchitect the constitutional order. This means, with certainty, that there will be another crisis. The Federal Government has taken over the mortgage system, not to tell creditors that they will have to accept a different kind of money and then architecting a new economy which will generate that new kind of money, but in hopes of collecting the control of the old money. Since there is not enough future economic activity in the current form - that is, there is not enough money on the planet - to pay back all of the debts held (the speculative money having all been used to pyramid claims) this will fail, because it must fail.

The future is in the energy-information economy. The key is to create information that will allow more happiness in the scarce resource of easily extractable energy, with information ultimately being able to produce capital energy and allow a long boom. Getting there, surviving the early part of the cycle, is the difficulty, and it takes half a generation to do so. However, the half generation before the crisis is generally not a pinnacle for most people, but only for a few connected to the favored mechanisms of the old money system. There were three recessions in the 1920's. The 1850's featured a severe economic shock, and the period leading up to the Constitution of 1787 saw a brutal round of inflation globally that would not finally subside until the end of the Napoleonic Wars.

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Now to turn from the general pattern, to the more specific problem at hand. The creation of unlimited paper money in the form of unregulated financial derivatives, Collateralized Debt obligations and so on was not, in itself, the problem. The problem was that the incentives were not to create new forms of economic activity that would relieve pressure on ultimately scarce goods, but, instead, to consume more. The rapid rise and fall of oil this year shows that the problem was not oil supply, but dollar over supply.

The contradiction was this: suburbanism. The store of wealth was moved from the cities as centers of economic activity, where it is energy efficient, to suburbs where it is energy inefficient, and from energy efficient manufacturing economies such as Japan, Europe, and comparatively speaking, the US, to places where it was inefficient. It was more important to hold wages down, so that those lending money would maintain the same control over the economy, than it was to expand economic activity. Hence moving production to China where labor and land are cheap, but where it is very expensive to produce a dollar of GDP. As land rent piled up in cost, it was cheaper to trade energy for land. This trade off of transportation for ground rents was well known to Adam Smith.

Thus it is logically impossible both to bet on energy inefficient production, which raises the price of energy, and on wealth creation which is increasingly energy inefficient. The particular mechanisms of finance which were used to do this, are irrelevant. If not these, then some others would be found. All that our current financial systems were, was ways that people could fool themselves into giving out bad incentives. The mathematics was good, the reality was not.

This means that drilling more is not a solution, because even if a great deal more oil existed than exists, it would simply be dropped into more SUVs and developments. The incentive to sprawl, itself, was the problem. The permission to sprawl, through social, political, and economic means - and it took all of these - was, itself, the problem. The particular excuses are unimportant, because nothing is more inevitable than a bad idea whose time has come. A bad idea is one which allows people to reward themselves with present luxury, at the cost of future ruin, and yet not realize they have lost their virtue. This too was well known in the late 18th century, to the framers of the constitution of 1787, it was well known to Niccolo Machiavelli in 1500.

In the present then, there is exactly one course of action, and that is to create a monetary system which creates the incentive to reduce the GDP cost in ultimate scarcity: easily extractable energy, absorbable carbon, potable water, and assorted subsidiary resources. Suburbanism is opposed to this project by definition. The suburbanite wants to trade energy for land rent, since land rent is inflated, and has been intentionally inflated, in order to pay for the energy which keeps the process going. The problem with a Red Queen's Race, is when you trip.

This means at this moment we are going to see a collapse in the large bets on energy, because there is a domino effect. The demand for energy was propped up by a dollar glut. The dollar glut was based on a housing bubble. The collapse of financial institutions wich allowed the contradiction, of a system which was generating a vicious circle: more houses meant more dollars to buy more energy, which was increasingly locked up into maintaining the fictional basis for printing the dollars in the first place. That fraud, deception, profligate borrowing, manipulation, and a great deal of ideological propaganda was involved in all of this, should not surprise anyone. Consider the racisms invented to maintain slavery as a more brutal example. The future will look on this age's energy profligacy in the same way that we look on slavery. Slavery as a peculiar institution was propped up, not by mere government action, but by social action as well.

So too our own justification as to why suburban lawns were the pinnacle of moral rectitude.

The core crash of the housing bubble is leading to a crash in the resource bubble. This will kill inflation, temporarily, but only temporarily. This is because the production capacity which has been invested in over the last 20 years is in productive capacity that consumes energy, and facilitates consumption of energy. It should be noted that the resource crash will lead, in a few months, to a crash in more financial instruments. As Russia collapses in its' mercantilist meltdown, so will those who bet heavily on its continued ballistic climb. The Russians will have to restrain production to push costs back up, as will other resource producers. This will probably ignite a recession which will be more severe than any since the great double recession of 1980-1981, but will not squeeze out the fundamental contradiction. Everyone is eager to get back to the game of knocking down trees to put up houses. Both parties have promised another round of subsides for this process. In fact, Obama's campaign is publishing articles and op-eds crowing about how their plan is more Reaganite than McCain's plans.

This is depressing, because Americans neither were willing, in 2004, when they had their last chance, to restrain dramatically their spending, nor are they willing now to accept that their chances in the old land casino have run out. It means that we are going to face another cycle of suburban socialism, where the future will be burned through to produce waste in the present. Any erg of energy created will be spent on this. Only a massive economic collapse which destroys people's faith in the land casino itself will change the direction of the American polity.

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So what would such a constitutional arrangement look like?

The first key is to realize that the process of debt assumption is already going on. However, the more important part of the process is the process of forcing the write off of old store of wealth that is incompatible with expansion, and opening a new area for expansion where people who have had the old doors closed, can go through new ones. What the Louisiana Purchase was to the Federalist Republic, and what the implosive development of the modern city to the Liberal Democracy, there must be an equivalent for the new republic.

It is also important to understand that each order has it's written, unwritten, and shadow components. An example of a written change is the Constitution of 1787, or the post-civil war amendments. But the power of the unwritten constitution is often greater. Consider, if you will, the example of the Child Labor Constitutional Amendment. Before the New Deal, barring child labor required a constitutional amendment, after, it could be regulated out of existence. The third component, however, is the shadow constitution. This is all of the implicit assumptions about what is so important that it cannot be allowed to fall, and also the compromises that must be taken to keep those marginally attached to the constitutional order in place. In any constitutional order there are those who believe, rightly, but more often wrongly, that they can leave the constitutional umbrella, or make themselves ungovernable.

This is why the conservative voters in the south have had a disproportional power over the late Liberal Democracy. Their cheap labor was needed, and they supplied a disproportionate share of the military officer class. They also felt that they were utterly exempt from the ordinary turns of economic cycles, since they supplied military hardware. Thus their venomous "revolution" when this was cut, becoming an almost uncontrolled cauldron of rage and illegality, from the impeachment over a blow job, to the theft of the election of 2000, to the Iraq War itself. They were operating within the shadow constitution, which is why there will be no political reckoning for any of these actions, until there is a true and complete disintegration of the political order. Even now the election is being fought over how to appease these "marginally attached to the constitution" voters. It is not a disqualification that Sarah Palin belonged to a separatist political party.

The other group which had a shadow constitutional place, is those who acted as intermediary between the flow of oil and the rest of the economy. The President was, in essence, Secretary of Oil, and anything that he needed to do to keep thr oil flowing, was deemed appropriate. This too covers the Iraq War, flatly illegal on its face, from any legal ramifications.

However the converse side must e looke at, in return for granting these shadows in the constitution, the suburbanites accepted that free trade, financialization, and computers, would offer a new undiscovered country. They in fact do, but as long as they were tied to the suburban sprawlconomy, they created perverse incentives. The dot com boom wanted to replace bricks and mortar stores... with overnight air freight. The expansion of free trade increased, rather than decreased, the cost of energy in GDP terms. Financialization, instead of creating a space for investments that would take years to pay off, pushed investments that would be a burden for decades. These tools can be redirected towards the future, but they were, as has happened in the past, used to prop up the past first.

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The pieces of a new constitutional order are in place: that the secret is for the developed world to bail out the developed world, rather than going to the holders of petrodollars. By swapping paper, this interconnectedness is being created out of necessity. However, it is equally essential that old claims be wiped out; the realization that the mortgage bets will never be repaid allows that economic energy to be redirected to creating new kinds of value. The focus on technical solutions, tactics of the process, is misguided. We do not know what steps will be most effective. No one in 1785 or 1858 or 1928 had any clue about the final synthesis, even though many had grasped essential parts. Constitutional orders harmonize the insights of many, and the efforts of multitudes, to reach a state that few of them will see in its final form.

The great write down will come, because very shortly someone must pay. The reactionary forces want the write down to come in the form of ending Social Security, and indeed all of the social safety net, and turn the US government in fact and name into an insurance company for their investments. What Suburban-Americans have yet to realize is that their home values and their retirements are at odds. The labor and resources required to keep their houses valued as they are, and the labor required to produce capital value that will pay for their retirement cannot both happen. As long as they cling to this contradiction, they will keep voting to kill their own future.

The return for writing down the home values must be an end to the "middle class inflation" of access to education, jobs, and health insurance, as well as an end to the constant and blatant theft of their investments by fees, deception, and churn. There are ways to do this by creating a national pension system and a national health system, as well as changing the way college is paid for. Education can be reduced in cost by moving it from the local to the state and federal level. The practice of using local taxes to pump up local property values must end, because it is increasing costs across the society generally, and these costs can no longer be maintained. Monetizing inflation is the enemy, and yet at the end of a political cycle that is precisely what everyone is trying to do: monetize inflation.

Crucially there will be an end of the shadow constitution of a security-industrial complex, one that is used to track everything that people do in order to make sure that every bit of value can be extracted from them. Things such as the Patriot Act, which plays on the insecurities of the suburban classes are equivalent to the fugitive slave acts of the 1850's - the anxiety of a slave revolt is precisely the same cause as the anxiety of unnamed mysterious forces which threaten to invade suburbia, whether video games, Arab terrorists, or inner city African Americans.

But just as crucially, the means of campaigning and elections must change. One of the most pervasive forms of gerrymandering in America is the continuation of two practices. The first is the favoring of home owners over others by residency requirements and use of voter registration - witness the GOP using home foreclosure notices as a hit list to prevent people from voting. People presently see themselves as holders of home equity first, and holders of national equity last, except in so far as national equity sends them pork and oil. This is enforced by the second form of gerrymandering: elections being based on local, rather than national, qualification for voting. People can be denied their right to participate in national elections, based on local criteria for being on the voter rolls.

But these are pieces. The crucial synthesis is what is already happening: nationalization. The reality is that the United States is in a situation were it must, as a national unit, optimize its exports and imports. While the market mechanism will be part of this process, the incentives of the market mechanism will have to be determined by politics. The market has been proved over and over again to be unable to price its own meta. This is in fact part of the theory of market economics.

This leads to a change in political mandate which is more far-reaching than anyone has yet admitted. Since Nixon, and particularly Reagan, the mandate has been to keep the land casino open at all costs regardless of what was done, and most importantly without people seeing the sausage being made. Iraq has shown that Americans quail at the logical conclusions of being an imperial power that takes the raw materials that it needs, and that it is no good at being a colonial power. This means that a political class selected for its secrecy (its ability to cover over minor scandals scaled up to its ability to cover over the high crimes and misdemeanors required of the Nixonian state) would radically alter the political landscape because the very people who are disqualified for office now would be competitors for office under a new order. This is often the case. It is an interesting exercise to see how many key U.S. politicians of the 1850's became officials of the Confederacy. It includes Stephen Douglas' Vice-Presidential nominee.

The natural solution is not to stop with nationalizing AIG, but to continue to nationalize not merely the financial sector but the media sector as well. Since the financial crisis has not reached that point, it will not happen yet. But it will one day, and on that day the media sector will be ripe for nationalization as well. This is a dangerous process, but it is also a necessary one. It can be effected by regulation, and in many cases by simply applying regulations which have been long ignored.

There is already the constitutional architecture for this. If read broadly the 14th Amendment creates a national citizenship and grants broad authorities to Congress to enforce it. Indeed, we can take this almost as a marker of where America is to the extent that people are willing to revive the 14th Amendment in its original intent and wording, they are taking steps to a national Commonwealth.

The Liberal Democracy is dead; its fundamental agreements are broken. We are now facing a crisis in which institutions are corrupted and the implied bargain not go beyond certain bounds is being violated by the very people who opposed it, requiring a yet broader mandate of government. What can and must follow the Liberal Democracy is a National Commonwealth, which by removing old intermediaries directly bonds the citizenry with the government, because the citizenry are directly responsible for the debts that that government has taken on. If pride of ownership is to mean anything, then it is applicable here: Americans must see themselves, not as adversaries of their government, but as owners of it.

Or, they will find soon enough they are owned by their government.


Stirling Newberry September 17, 2008 - 8:32am
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You really need to come to terms with Obama winning the primary.

I just stopped reading right there when you said that Obama is inflexible, in comparison to John McCain.

Willingness to lie != flexibility. It's usually the opposite, and the lie is a tactic to maintain an inflexible ideology. Obama is no more inflexible than most politicians are, and he has most certainly has been one of the most willing politicians to *listen* since B. Clinton.

I'm just really sick of warrantless bashing, when it's clear to me that it's an *issue* of yours, and not based in any consensual reality.

shah8 September 17, 2008 - 4:55pm

And, it would seem, very much an *issue* of yours else you might have responded to the thesis itself or at least a more significant part of it. Why deflect such a broad set of ideas into such a minor cul-de-sac?

hvd September 17, 2008 - 5:25pm

you need to come to terms with the fact that he's an egomaniac Reaganite who is statistically even with the pillsbury dough boy and his all moose orchestra.

Stirling Newberry September 17, 2008 - 5:46pm

not essential to core of the piece, more than once, you might resist the urge to insert them(and wilt the political energy levels of Agonists for the Presidential election) in otherwise exciting articles that are great reads.

or not.


"The mythical John McCain is an affable, straight-talking, moderately conservative war hero who is an expert on foreign policy" - Bob Herbert

nymole September 17, 2008 - 6:39pm

It's pretty significant that OBama is essentially in the DLC camp economically, his advisers being Chicago boys, and he is apparently operating in the Reaganite paradigm if only because that is the current universe of discourse. This buttresses Stirling's point that Obama is not running on systemic change, but change within the existing economic system — a system that is now in its death throes. This is not irrelevant or peripheral to the argument.

If you want to defend Obama, show how this view of him, his advisers and his campaign is mistaken on the basis of evidence, please.

tjfxh September 17, 2008 - 7:28pm

but with getting people to read the article through to the end.
But enough. I'm interrupting your train of thought:-)


"The mythical John McCain is an affable, straight-talking, moderately conservative war hero who is an expert on foreign policy" - Bob Herbert

nymole September 17, 2008 - 7:56pm

not essential to core of the piece,

making the point that Stirling's political views are not peripheral to the argument he is making.

While I agree that it's better not to get sidetracked on emotional *issues* but the facts involved are relevant.

tjfxh September 17, 2008 - 8:21pm

The absence of paradigmatic shift in the choice between the two parties ensures that we will get another, worse, crisis in the next cycle.

People can get all invested in Obama if they need to emotionally, however, it is a terrible investment financially.

Stirling Newberry September 17, 2008 - 11:20pm

Fact:

Barak Obama is committed to tax cuts in the face of a ballooning deficit and bail outs which will reduce the savings rate and prop up consumption. Precisely what we do not need.

Obama's economic plan is better than John McCain's, only because John McCain's economic plan is barking mad. I'm willing to bet that Al Smith would have done a better job than Herbert Hoover had he been elected in 1928. I would also bet that the Great Depression would still have happened.

Stirling Newberry September 17, 2008 - 11:22pm

...it's spelled BaraCk.

I have noticed this error appear repeatedly, across a considerable number of your diaries.

Some on here will argue that I am nitpicking. They are correct.

And yet the way I see it, if you are going to criticize a candidate's socio-economic platform, you may as well begin by getting his name right.

fivespicepowder September 17, 2008 - 11:43pm

that it happens a lot more than just the spelling of Barack Obama.

So, I don't put much stock in it. Look, we all know Stirling doesn't like Obama all that much. Neither do I for that matter. And I don't think, at this point, Obama and Sen. Credit-Card Biden are capable of real reforms of the financial system. I said so as much in a recent post. So, put me in the Stirling camp in that it's going to take a massive, massive crisis for things to change. Until then, it won't.

“Is not our first thought to go on the road? The road is our source, our vault of treasures, our wealth. Only on the road does the ‘traveller’ feel like himself, at home.”
Ryszard Kapuscinski

Sean Paul Kelley September 18, 2008 - 12:14am

I thought I'd pen up a little Rousseau (OBAMA, like the rest of us, can only be the change he seeks, he cannot change others):

  • "Nothing is more dangerous in public affairs than the influence of private interests, and the abuse of the law by the government is a lesser evil than that corruption of the legislator which inevitably results from the pursuit of private interests. When this happens, the state is corrupted in its very substance and no reform is possible."
  • "Nations, like men, are teachable only in their youth; with age they become incorrigible. Once customs are established and prejudices rooted, reform is a dangerous and fruitless enterprise; a people cannot bear to see its evils touched, even if only to be eradicated."
  • "Besides, how many things that are difficult to have at the same time does the democratic form of government not presuppose?"
  • "because although a people can make itself free while it is still uncivilized, it cannot do so when its civil energies are worn out."
  • "Free people remember this maxim: liberty can be gained, but never regained."
  • "For luxury is either the effect of riches or it makes riches necessary; it corrupts both the rich and the poor; it surrenders the country to indolence and vanity; it deprives the state of all its citizens by making some slaves of others and all the slaves of opinion."
  • "What makes the constitution of a state really strong and durable is such a close observance of conventions that natural relations and laws come to be in harmony on all points, so that the law, shall we say, seems only to ensure, accompany and correct what is natural."

from "the social contract"

mrmx September 18, 2008 - 3:34am

Obama. I can read your posts just fine. My issue is that Stirling shows every sign that Obama is an idee fixe of his, and it is warping what he says. It's too hard to read what he writes if one has a concern about bias that verge into problematic.

In the end, I just want the old Stirling back. I accepted Obama for what he was a long time ago, he never made any secret of his attitudes, which is why my initial (mistaken) support was for John Edwards.

shah8 September 18, 2008 - 7:25am

Stirling has, and as long as I have been reading him, has always had a number of idees fixe. Get over it. Please focus on his over all argument so that the thread can move positively forward.

Now, what I would love to hear is how Stirling would respond to Tony Wilkrents thread at http://agonist.org/tony_wikrent/20080917/let_wall_street_burn_the_details or how he would respond to Stirling.

hvd September 18, 2008 - 9:03am

Line from a tank McNamara cartoon. NBA execs are sitting around worrying about the lack of offense in the NBA, and their bean counter is asked how to solve the problem. He replies "Long term? Teach guys how to shoot?" Meaning that the problem is symptom of a larger problem. Long term, the solution is to shut down the US land casino, allow US assets to float down to their correct valuations, and export to the places that current export to us, but do not import enough. This is a large project, and will require sacrifices, saving, and long term disruption in the US.

There's plenty of money to bail out these banks... in the hands of non-Americans. Both the UK and the US have balked at selling Manhattan to the holders of dollars piling up. This bail out is about that: keeping the financial system in Western hands.

If we let asset prices collapse, then the holders of all those lovely petro- and off-shore dollars will buy them up cheaply.

Hows your Arabic? My Chinese is pretty good.

Letting it burn is not a solution. Bailing it out and handing control back over to the people who messed it up is also not a solution.

Long term the answer is "teach Americans how to export." It's getting to that long term which is causing the current thrash. It's also why I am not exactly worried about this iteration of the crisis, because it isn't a real crisis yet. Or more exactly, it is not a very large crisis compared to the one that comes on the next run through the spin cycle.

Stirling Newberry September 18, 2008 - 9:53am

I'm not sure why letting it burn a la Wilkrent's strategy (frankly I would go further in reordering the markets but that isn't strictly relevant here) doesn't get us there?

Essentially what he seems to want to do is decouple investment from the paper chase it is now and, by limiting the available instruments (and again here I would limit how much you could profit on certain trades) and focusing it on productive capacity. If the paper chase is gone, profits must focus on actually making things of value to other people, first locally for the sake of import replacement and then, ultimately for export. It would, of course, make sense in terms of import replacement to focus on replacing oil.

Burning all of that excess off, of course, is going to create incredible friction with the oiligarchs and China and will take extraordinary diplomacy to contain the inevitable impulse towards war that such action would create. But the fact of the matter is that the oiligarchs probably bear some share of the blame for forcing us to come up with the Clinton-Rubin solution. Similarly, the labor arbitrage we engaged in helped make the Chinese miracle possible, so it is not entirely unfair to have them share in our market pain. I think an argument can be made for sharing this pain and for helping to create, hopefully, a more rational international order that shares pains and benefits more equitably.

O.k. all of that is pretty obvious, my question for Stirling is, once again, why not just seize the bull by the horns now unless, of course, and this is the second part of the question, you think that the political dynamic isn't ready for this (which I would agree with)?

hvd September 18, 2008 - 11:24am

If I disagree with Stirling on things, it’s probably because I know less than he does. He’s actually been involved in dealing with the suits; I’m just a humble itinerant bookseller who reads too much -- but really not enough. Maybe I read the wrong things – but if I stopped reading Stirling’s stuff, I suspect my head would slowly implode. I much prefer the intellectual stimulation Stirling provides, though there are many points I don’t easily grasp – or grasp at all (such as why the need to nationalize everything, including the media; there is a reflexive cringing at what the reactionary noise machine will do with that idea, though I must admit to loving the idea of stuffing Rupert Murdoch into a large UPS box and shipping him back to Australia, notwithstanding what Stirling has to say about air freight).

Stirling has an excellent grasp of the broad historic sweep of economic and political forces. (I’ve read Machiavelli’s Prince a couple decades ago, but had never distilled it into one simple sentence the way Stirling did; I’m not even sure Stirling’s right about Machiavelli and the point of good governance being to create incentives that prevent people from wasting the present by robbing from the future, but it sounds great, and I’m quite happy to take Stirling’s word for it.) But what I find myself yearning for as I read Stirling’s articles is some nitty-gritty details. For example, when Stirling writes that the creation and trading of financial derivatives themselves were not the problem in and of themselves, I can -- after swallowing hard and repressing my instinctive hatred of the damn things, which I spent a good part of my youth campaigning against -- see the point. The underlying problem being the sprawlconomy is easy enough to grasp, but I have real difficulty accepting that the answer is the information-energy economy -- unless what Stirling means by information is what I think of as “technology”: the knowledge, stored and reposed in the human species by certain individual members, of how to extract, manipulate, and use the things of nature, whether those things are a black ooze we pump out of the ground, or an invisible stream of energy blasting its way to us from an orb about eight and a half minutes away.

As hvd notes, I think letting Wall Street burn effectively gets us to where Stirling says we need to go. For one thing, it applies more shock to the body politic. The problem of course, is that at this point in time, the body politic’s response is being fashioned by Henry Paulson and his merry men of Sachs, and not by Stirling Newberry.

But let’s look at a specific example: in May, the U.S. Department of Energy released its long-awaited report on wind energy 20 Percent Wind Energy by 2030. I wrote at the time that the DoE goal was much too modest, but that there were significant obstacles in terms of industrial incapacity -- lack of capacity -- to doing something more like the Manhattan Project or Apollo moon landing program. What befuddles me is how do we get the trillions of dollars of money sloshing around the globe everyday, to stop “investing” in credit default swaps, and instead start financing the rebuilding of capacity for building electrical transformers and large-scale industrial gearboxes and bearings?

Unfortunately, my first instinct is rather Stalinist – you take somebody like Robert Rubin and tell him what you want done, knowing full well he won’t do it, then you have him shot. The next day, you ask Lawrence Lindsey to do it, and hopefully he will be a good bit more motivated than Rubin was. Beyond the inconvenient problem of building the political base needed to solve problems in this way, it is also, to be blunt, morally reprehensible. But, then, so is, in my view, bailing out the bastards like Rubin and Lindsey who led us into this mess. Which is why I would like to see Stirling explain why nationalizing the whole damn financial system is an acceptable solution.

As for the U.S. having to learn to export, I emphatically agree. I’ve written before about the argument between FDR and Churchill over the fate of the British empire, and the developing world in general. FDR wanted to unleash what he called “American methods” meaning, I believe, major transportation and other major infrastructure projects in Africa and Asia and South America as well. A goal such as supplying safe water and sewage service to every household in Africa would, I suspect, be more than enough to absorb all of China’s export capacity for the next few years, with more than enough room for the U.S. to pitch in as well. As Stirling wrote once, in one of his many magnificent one-liners, we need to abandon the economics of international trade for the economics of true national development.

Tony Wikrent September 19, 2008 - 12:38pm

Which is why I would like to see Stirling explain why nationalizing the whole damn financial system is an acceptable solution.

First, I'd like to hear Hank Paulson, who is actually doing it, explain it in detail, subjected to rigorous objective questioning.

My own answer to why nationalize is that we already have statism masquerading as democracy and free markets. The current debacle just proves this by smoking it out of hiding.

The only other workable answers I can envison are either to decentralize wealth and power, or to nationalize on a non-statist basis as a commonwealth. These are not mutually exclusive although they can be handled separately.

The ultimate answer, which is ultimately required as Bucky Fuller noted, is to recognize that the lines drawn on the globe are a fiction drawn by the Great Pirates for the purposes of plunder. Erasing these lines and treating Earth as an ecosystem in which humanity plays an important (metaphysical) part but not the only part is required if humanity is to continue as a viable species. See, for example, Fuller's Utopia or Oblivion and Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth.

tjfxh September 19, 2008 - 3:33pm

Wel, having taken time to indulge in lunch, a long, sweaty walk and a refreshing shower, I've come to see the brilliance of Stirling's idea. As you write, "we already have statism masquerading as democracy and free markets." If we proceed as Stirling suggests, then there is no longer any problem trying to induce, tempt, cajole, coerce, etc etc, capital flows to where society actually needs them. The major problem then becomes how to prevent and punish unauthorized capital flight.

The real problem in all this is political - how to get the reactionaries to accept the future.

Tony Wikrent September 19, 2008 - 3:59pm

The real problem in all this is political - how to get the reactionaries to accept the future.

The real problem is to convince a majority of voters that this is in their best interests. Of course, the reactionaries will do everything in their considerable power to prevent this, doing "whatever it takes," even going to war.

The reactionaries are never going along with this because it is not in their interest to do so. Virtually upon the election of FDR, they plotted to bring him down and when they couldn't, they plotted over decades how to undo the New Deal. Similarly, they brought down Jimmy Carter and did all they could to impeach Bill Clinton. There is reason to think that the right may also have done JFK in. But, like FDR and Harry Truman, LBJ was able to handle them. If Obama wins, we'll see what he's made of, if there isn't a palace coup.

tjfxh September 19, 2008 - 5:44pm

There's plenty of money to bail out these banks... in the hands of non-Americans. Both the UK and the US have balked at selling Manhattan to the holders of dollars piling up. This bail out is about that: keeping the financial system in Western hands. If we let asset prices collapse, then the holders of all those lovely petro- and off-shore dollars will buy them up cheaply. Hows your Arabic? My Chinese is pretty good.

Remember the Dubai port deal?

However, if the US doesn't allow foreign dollar holders to use their dollars to buy hard assets in the US, why would they continue to take them or continue to buy US debt to the tune of 2 billion a day, which is what the US presently requires? It's a losing game for them. In fact, it's a scam.

Here's where the rubber hits the road: either sell the farm, or watch the dollar as the world's reserve currency (and dollars for oil) become history.

tjfxh September 18, 2008 - 11:50am

"Asia Rethinks American Investments Amid Market Upheaval"

Source: NY Times

Asia’s savings have, in essence, bankrolled American spending for decades, and an Asian loss of confidence in American financial institutions and assets would have dire consequences for both the United States government and American taxpayers.

And it sounds like there are more Stirlings in Asia:

The potential for panic is stoked by Asian news organizations, which tend to focus more on business and economics than on politics, which can be touchy here. Their coverage has been obsessive and unrelentingly negative about the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch’s rush to find a buyer and the turmoil at A.I.G.

It's amazing that the NY Times admits that "Americans prefer BS to real news!"

The spanish based newspapers here in Minneapolis, for Mexicans, are also focused on information and not BS.

mrmx September 18, 2008 - 11:57am

while I don't have an intuitive understanding of Obama as a Reaganite, and must hvae missed Stirling's development of the charge, I've been through enough campaigns to know that, like foods which look good, you often don't eat them after reading the ingredients list.

for example, when I was watching the philadelphia eagles play dallas on monday night at a sports bar, they were also showing Cindy McCain on ESPN and she was surrounded by young, nice looking men at a NASCAR track and, from time to time, they would flash nice pictures of McCain and Cindy which oozed virility.

obviously, the whole thing was nonsense but, given the production efforts, someone out there must be making their decisions based soley on the packaging and not the ingredients.

so, Stirling, in his true form, is blind to the packaging since he likes digging around in the ingredients instead.

mrmx September 18, 2008 - 11:16am

Most likely a dumb question but if not Obama and Sen. Credit-Card Biden, WHO do you think would be capable of real reforms of the financial system?


"While not a Playboy reader, she invites a male acquaintance in for a quiet discussion of Chagall, Nietzsche, jazz, sex." - not a Hugh Hefner quote

adrena September 18, 2008 - 5:11pm

Reforms will simply delay the inevitable. This is the end of the epoch dominated by economic neoliberalism, neo-imperialism, and neo-colonialism. That epoch is now coming to a close, and there is no way for reforms from within to save it once its time is passed.

Western dominance is waning, and new order is about to be birthed. It may even be that the labor has begun.

Here's what I had to say about this here last December. It still stands.

tjfxh September 18, 2008 - 6:54pm

you sure know how to read tea leaves. The article you wrote back then is amazing. So there's really no point then to belabor the point that the Obama/Biden duo will be inept at dealing with the economic crash. Obama may be the right person after all to shepherd the nation through its downfall, to resurrect the fragile psyche of its people and make it strong again. Let's hope the New America will be a true beacon for freedom and equality for all.


"While not a Playboy reader, she invites a male acquaintance in for a quiet discussion of Chagall, Nietzsche, jazz, sex." - not a Hugh Hefner quote

adrena September 18, 2008 - 9:44pm

Let's hope the New America will be a true beacon for freedom and equality for all.

America will always be a true beacon for freedom and equality for all on the basis of its historical importance in realizing the political ideals of the Enlightenment — personal liberty with responsibility, equal justice for all, and promotion of the common good through community.

However, America will not always be "the leader of the free world," nor should it be. The US will have to learn to take it place among other nations and groups, all of which also have many things to contribute to the global civilization that is dawning.

America's contribution is great, but the US has sometimes gotten too big a head over it.

tjfxh September 18, 2008 - 10:09pm

since obama could over encourage false expectations.

mrmx September 18, 2008 - 10:39pm

You can't imagine the havoc that Palin/McCain will bring down. Why do I say Palin/McCain? Because the people that forced Palin on McCain will tie him up politically unless he carries out their agenda. Plus, McCain on his own will make Phil Gramm secretary of the treasury, a feat that will bring on the next great (global depression) that will result in widespread war, likely involving at least tactical nukes.

This is a very scary scenario to contemplate.

tjfxh September 19, 2008 - 12:29pm

The Arabic letters are usually transliterated literally as baraka or barakah. It has the same meaning as the Hebrew name Baruch, and the same meaning as the Greek charisma, translated in the NT as "grace." Wiki

While Obama uses "Barack," the form "Barak" is equivalent. It is customary to use the form chosen by the person, but this is a small mistake given the circumstances.

tjfxh September 18, 2008 - 11:11am

It is not a disqualification that Sarah Palin belonged to a separatist political party.

It's an asset — one might say "a redneck asset" in the contemporary sense of "redneck" that recalcitrant conservatives who aren't real rednecks are proudly and defiantly adopting.

tjfxh September 17, 2008 - 5:25pm

What Suburban-Americans have yet to realize is that their home values and their retirements are at odds. The labor and resources required to keep their houses valued as they are, and the labor required to produce capital value that will pay for their retirement cannot both happen. As long as they cling to this contradiction, they will keep voting to kill their own future.

This realization — to be fought out in the next election as one party wants its investments indemnified and the other the continuance of its preserved — is going to be a bomb that blows the political arena wide open. The fundamental contradiction: asset values can only be propped up under the current (Reaganite) regime by reducing the living standard.

tjfxh September 17, 2008 - 5:34pm

unfortuantely, when I talk like that, I lose most people!

in fact, they even get mad when I call unionism a "consumption movement" since I see the contradiction that, after union members create their estates, they can only be maintained through slave labor; this reality is denied and the overpaid CEO is blamed. hence, progressives shot themselves in the foot.

mrmx September 17, 2008 - 9:37pm

Monetizing inflation is the enemy, and yet at the end of a political cycle that is precisely what everyone is trying to do: monetize inflation.

Surprisingly, this is a criticism that one typically hears in ultra-conservative circles which are concerned with the role of the currency as a store of future value. Lots of howls about monetization of debt and inflation lately on the economic blogs, which tend to be quite economically conservative. Of course, they are also going ballistic about "socialization."

tjfxh September 17, 2008 - 5:45pm

The Liberal Democracy is dead; its fundamental agreements are broken. We are now facing a crisis in which institutions are corrupted and the implied bargain not go beyond certain bounds is being violated by the very people who opposed it, requiring a yet broader mandate of government. What can and must follow the Liberal Democracy is a National Commonwealth, which by removing old intermediaries directly bonds the citizenry with the government, because the citizenry are directly responsible for the debts that that government has taken on. If pride of ownership is to mean anything, then it is applicable here: Americans must see themselves, not as adversaries of their government, but as owners of it. Or, they will find soon enough they are owned by their government.

Interestingly, a lot of people, possibly a majority, demanded just this sort of solution at the time of the Great Depression. FDR, often pictured by the right as a socialist, was in fact on the conservative side of this transition, resisting loud calls for a more commonwealth approach based on the constitutional imperative of promoting the common good as well as personal liberty.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

So, I would not say that liberal democracy is dead, but rather than it is in the process of redefinition. The essence of liberal democracy is the right of the citizenry to participate integrally in the choice of leaders and the passage of laws, including levying of taxes, as well as in constitutional issues. This allows for ongoing redefinition by the people as appropriate, both incrementally and systemically. This distinguishes popular sovereignty and the various forms of democracy from the various forms of authoritarian and totalitarian systems.

Unfortunately, citizens have not used this right intelligently of late for a variety of reasons, so now the system is stretched to the breaking point. Changes are necessarily coming, but they hopefully will come constitutionally. Given the present constitutional crisis, this is not a certainty.

tjfxh September 17, 2008 - 5:58pm

"Or, they will find soon enough they are owned by their government." or in debt peonage to the short sale buyer of their house who will allow them to live there in return for services rendered...perhaps digging up their yard and growing food.
I hope the continued socialization up to and including the media will happen because it means we have retained some order in the system and we have chosen commonwealth.
If we choose chaos, feudalism will probably be our best bet.
The concept of a Baron of Green Acres Estates would be hilarious if it weren't so scary.

JT September 17, 2008 - 8:19pm

Impressions:

What about the oft leveled argument that 'working class republicans' vote to screw themselves because they are handed the red meat of racism and xenophobia by their tricky and devious overlords?

While Newberry sort of hangs his hat on a 'marxist' or at least economic determinism explanation of the '94 Gingrich takeover of Congress, wasn't much of this fueled by homophopia over the sex integration of the Army?

Pat Buchanon described the 2004 election as one about "Gods guns and gays."

Similarly this tiresome return to settling scores of the sixties culture war continues to be regurgitated - where Hannity comes up with some member of the Weather Underground who is 'tied' to a man who was, at the time of W.U. activities, eight years old.

I consider Stirling's 'sterling' economic determinism analysis edifying, yet I wonder if ignoring the "in your gut" emotional manipulation of GOP demagogues is prudent or pragmatic to our project of genuine reform.

Lets just say that 'there's a there there' in terms of taking people's eyes off the ball by holding up shiny objects (PALIN!), appeals to nativism (I'm a huntin' white man listenin' to cuntry - so EVRYONE must be) and stampeding people with fear and paranoia and xenophobia.

KingElvis September 18, 2008 - 10:24am

The FDR comment above has me wondering if Stirling is being too harsh on Obama. We are on the edge of a chasm. We are near the looking glass, but have not passed through it yet. How do we know what Obama will be once we reach the rift? It seems like we are nearing a discontinuity. While we can see a good portion of what the choices will be, it is very difficult to ascertain the exact coalition, tactics, or way the battle will play out. We as a country have not yet acknowledged what the battle actually is yet, so the constituency has not yet been built for the kinds of changes Stirling points to. Obama has to run as a Reaganite, because we are still in the neo-conservative era. We will be in that era until the crisis is reached. Frankly, I am actually hopeful with Obama. The mechanics of the organizing leads me to believe that election 2008 will be our answer to Operation Rescue's Wichita in 1992. This is where the game will start. After the election there will be a mass of people who have learned to organize. The Obama campaign has put a ton of resources toward them in the campaign. What success they see on election day, and what happens with them in the next year after that is the story I am watching.

A Hidell September 18, 2008 - 10:55am

I think that Obama has the right stuff to rise to the occasion in extremis. I think he is cool enough not to panic, as well as to realize what is happening, what needs to be done, and what can be done.

tjfxh September 18, 2008 - 11:15am

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