the choice of a nude generation


this is the coke-pepsi nomination. clinton is coke. obama is pepsi. both candidates have internalized the lessons of the 1990's in opposite ways. clinton capitulates on foreign policy, while obama on domestic policy. clinton fights on domestic policy, while obama on foreign policy. between the two, you have on progressive, or one conservative democrat. clinton's vector is more liberal, while obama has nakedly appealed to republicans.

let's get beyond that, because it leads nowhere as a fight. the interesting thing to me is that this election isn't about the high information voters on the internet, it is about the high passion voters on the internet. and while high passion was part of dean, and clark, and even edwards, in 2004, in 2008 hpv, or high passion voters, and yes i've been briefed on what that abbreviation can mean, are the key people. this is because the internet has made more strides in connecting people, than in informing people, in the last four years.

here i am in the same kind of blog dialog box that i was in four years ago. drupal and scoop are better, but basically the same. blogger is better, but it is still blogger.

but in the world of creating passion, we are worlds apart. facebook, you tube and other social networking tools mean that while blogs filled a double role of social and information, now they are information far more than social.

this is why the candidates look different. in 2004 we were faced with old politics of media position and activist loyalty, which was enough to carry kerry to the nomination, and then prevent him from winning the presidency, against new politics information and flexibility of organization.

this campaign is about two old politics candidates, one of whom, obama, is the choice of the nude generation.

the nude generation

the nude generation is the generation of people who do much of their best work low on clothes. i'm still not to the point where i do this, i've been known to blog in a power tie. but that's an anachronism. the nude generation is the rising world of doing ones networking by first internetworking, and then hooking up.

and this is the world that is rapid transforming, because it is now easy to carry around a list of one's 1000 closest supporters on facebook.

the nude generation, and i'm far from the first to point this out, have drunk the obama fizzy water. some where this or that. but hillary rodham clinton, is almost nowhere to be found in the facebook fiesta. she's on email, but blogs and farther, are not her place. hillary clinton is the candidate of the medium information voter, of the medium passion voter, of the 1950's sense of wouldn't it be great if. obama wraps himself in 1960's youth.

in reality, both candidates are refighting the 1990's.

it was in the 1990's when a wing of the reactionary movement thought it could end the liberal state. the gingrich revolution was the first and last attempt by the republicans to roll back liberalism. it died with the "freedom to fail" act. republican people got exposed to what the market looks like in a rent obsessed society, and they realized they weren't landlords, but share croppers. that was that.

however, the virulence of their position remained. radicalized they fell on a new idea: coöpt imperialism and conquer the oil. this lead into iraq later, but in the 1990's it created a culture of bombastic ultra-certainty on the right, fueled by the failure of reagan's economic policies to lead to an immediate catastrophe. this culture of bombastic certainty married with the rage of riffing - where the military was downsized - to create the dixiecratic version of the republican party. in a sense the coalition that nixon forged, between dixiecrats and old republicans, flipped to being dixiecrats dragging the last of the old repbulicans along.

the 1990's were about how to deal with this. bill clinton used a three fold strategy, differentiate, capitulate, triangulate. first draw lines, then see the reaction and give in on those things that are hard to fight, and then move to a third position, more humane, and sometimes more liberal. however, clinton's political survival instinct was to fight on anything that punctured him personally, even if it was an affair.

both hillary and obama internalized this lesson in different ways, but largely their argument is over whether the best way to capitulate is to make a deal with republicans who hate iraq, or republicans who realize that a broke liberal state is a broken one. neither is correct, the best thing to do is to slice off the entire technocratic wing of the republican party, which can be made to see both and and both and as connected, but no matter.

the fight between them is not over 1960's or not, but over how best to differentiate, capitulate, triangulate. obama's brand is that by capitulating more closely, he will be able to triangulate better. this is absurd, it is mccain who is the unitycrat, and lieberman joins him. the few pro-war democrats left are willing to go over to the republicans, and willing to sell out the democratic majority on votes of critical importance. instead, the democrats need to flip new voters in region once safely in the hands of old republicans, because the children of old republicans, are not old or republican.

the age of nixon

in 1968 america fought, an ended, the 1960's politically. there are no fights about the 1960's really. instead, america decided it wanted a liberal state, run by conservatives. almost every election has turned on the question of whether democrats could prove themselves willing to be conservative, or the republicans could promise to continue to have generous uncle sam continue in his dotage. the party that did this the best one.

the age of nixon can really be defined by two features, the first is the liberal government run by conservatives, and the second is the presidency as conspiracy.

the nixonian presidency was foreshadowed by others, by mckinley, by wilson, by hoover, by fdr, by lbj and every other president since the invention of mass media dawned with the telegraph. however it was with nixon that a pervasive manipulation of every fact about every subject became the "war room," as we would later call it, at the heart of the political operation.

the economic reality that helped drive this was oil. the president was first minister of oil, and he had to do what he had to do to get it. however, even absent the physical fact, americans wanted an economy based on getting into a position of scarcity and dictating to others. microsoft is not about oil, but they might as well be, google is not about oil, but about something i called "data oil" back in 1992, the flow of processed information.

this desire for the ability to make monopoly scarcity profits as the road to riches, meant we all became either conspirators with our hands on a goose that might lay golden eggs, or dupes. often both, there are more geese than golden eggs.

this campaign has four candidates who are in a position to win, and all of them are campaigning on two points: that they will be conservatives running a liberal government, and that they will be able to control the flow of media.

however, obama is the choice of the nude generation for a simple reason. he's the genuine cult. he offers his followers the belief that they are in on the conspiracy, because they are in on the conspiracy. not his conspiracy mind you, but on the conspiracy to shatter the old social arrangements that dominate society in the present. old social arrangements based on the mechanization of the family, the pretense of monogamy, the attachment to organization. they are emphasizing brand loyalty and other consumerist features in their politics, but only for a moment. obama only became their choice, when the glower of hillary clinton created him. obama is the unhillary.

the conspiracy

there is a conspiracy, of which i am a professed member, to dismantle the petroleum society. the petroleum society introduced a host of concepts, including the nuclear family, in its drive to make labor mobile to the convenient places of production.

the conspiracy is to move production into forms that people can do where and when they want, even stark naked in their own bedroom.

the social forms and norms which came with the mechanized world have not been successes by and large. the divorce rate is high, it has torn apart the african american community entirely - moynihan had it exactly wrong, it wasn't that african-americans were failing at marriage, it is that nuclear marriage was failing them. one major reason that immigrant communities do better than indigenous african-american ones, is that the immigrants keep the nuclear norm. the parents come over when needed, or the children are shipped back.

the nuclear norm is also one that is lividly more bigotted than the extended one. this is because each partner is the sole source of emotional support for the other. it has lead, directly, to a rise in the consumption of video pornography and use of sex aids, including bondage-discipline and sado-masochism, as ways of keeping the sexual passion alive in the the nuclear couple. it is also why "defense of marriage" becomes more an obsession of the right wing. the nuclear marriage, as more fragile and stressed, needs it.

at the same time, the economic realities which allowed and encouraged the nuclear family are being crushed from both sides - young people are failing to launch, and old people are collapsing back into the home to be cared for. often both at once.

the nude generation enters this reality without an attachment to the nuclear family, without a job picture that encourages the nuclear family, that is moving to someplace and having a long residence there in the employ of one company. the nude generation therefore, neither respects the norms of that system, nor do they have any force impelling them too.

instead, as people who find people by craigslist, facebook, linkedin, friendster, myspace, and even more exotic tools, they are impelled to build networks that are polymorphous, polyamorous in many cases, and polyvalent. multi is the word of the past, poly the word that the nude generation falls upon. the polytropic has become polyagenous, a society made out of things which are indefinite in their form and structure. we don't buy things as much as we buy things that make things. computers, smartphones, internet service, sites that link us to new content we didn't know about, websites and so on.

this conspiracy to overturn the past is driven my many things, it make sense because the past really has robbed the nude generation blind. in the last 30 years the end of the GI generation, and the beginning of the baby boom, has spent the money that the second half of the baby boom, the baby bust and the echo boom assumed would be there. they have eaten the air, fouled the economy, spent the credit, burned the oil, used up the land to build, largely, parking lots.

the networked society

the networked society has three important parts:

1. the networking of information
2. the networking of social connection
3. the networking of economic power.

the first is the nominal reason for it, but even in its earlies days, the second two were as important. finding like people, and staying employed.

the nude generation is the generation that is being stripped of all of the rest of its defining characteristics. they aren't going to inherit a net surplus of credit with the rest of the world, a rising standard of living, or even the house they grew up in. they are going to pay off the loans for their college. they are going to spend more years in school genuflecting at intellectual rent. in debt at age 30, and still not married.

this is why the nude generation is a high passion generation, it is passion that attracts people to them, and which is rewarded, by young and old, as the shining light that they bring.

obama is merely the the two girls and a cup of the moment that is holding their attention. but they are passionate now, because they are passionate about not wanting to grow up to be soccer moms, and not wanting to be, as importantly, soccer dads.


Stirling Newberry February 4, 2008 - 10:15am
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Great piece, Stirling. I see what they don't want - broadly anything tainted with the past. They are adamantly post-historic and thus rootless and somewhat hysterical (passionate). But what if anything is their positive agenda? Or, far more problematically, what agendas might they be susceptible to?

Again, I think you are spot on in your analysis of the nude generation. The question is, Wither?

hvd February 4, 2008 - 11:46am

I'm a member of that generation --- the student loan balances between my wife and I is twice that of our mortgage balance, the entire world consists of McJobs at best, and the social-economic forms that we are still expected to conform to are a joke and barely relevant to our needs. So what is the agenda that works for me?

Remove some of the uncertainty of life, make paying off college easier (increase the cap on the deductability of student loan interest), offer cheaper/more predictable healthcare, and stop picking on me, my wife, and our friends as convienent social scapegoats of someone elses' fears and failures.

fester February 4, 2008 - 1:20pm

Not sure who is picking on you. But you are getting screwed.

I am truly worried about your generation's lack of history, Mr. Roger's neighborhood indoctrination, and imposed by the schools need to satisfy authority figures. And so, other than wanting to get out from under (and I don't blame you or disagree) what sort of world do you actually want.

I know perfectly well how my generation (boomers) failed to keep the faith with what we ostensibly believed. I can't figure out what you guys even ostensibly think and so worry that you will be real serious prey for any old huckster who comes along promising you what you want to hear about getting out from under.

hvd February 4, 2008 - 2:05pm

And walk away from your debts. Go to Australia or Canada.

Synoia February 4, 2008 - 5:35pm

Furthermore, Stirling, I am glad that you just dare to blog in power ties as your most extreme act :)

fester February 4, 2008 - 1:21pm

He blogs wearing ONLY a power tie?

Jeff Wegerson February 4, 2008 - 3:42pm

...being Stirling, he wears the power tie in an, er, unconventional way.

fivespicepowder February 4, 2008 - 4:35pm

he uses a double Winsor knot, in general, but may have actually sat down to post with a bow tie on during his wilder moments.


"I beseech you in the bowels of christ think it possible you may be mistaken."

Scott M February 4, 2008 - 4:42pm

but I have from fully clothed in my Sunday best to the bare essentials. And I'm older.....

ecophem February 4, 2008 - 2:09pm

how are they any different from generations past, say in the past 30 years?

ecophem February 4, 2008 - 2:13pm

Second half boomer, here, and I'm right there with you, Stirling. Raising two leading edge civics. I got my MBA with the reactive kids, figured out how different they were the first few days I was in class with them and started reading Generations which explained a helluva lot.

We got ditched by most of our older friends, and hang out now mostly with the 30 somethings. I have so little in common with the people my age and a bit older around me it's pathetic. I'm stuck on the middle of a conservative town in the burbs that drives me crazy, arguing with the nutjobs that are scared "Osama" will be president. When I correct them by simply stating, "His name is Obama", they go ballistic about a Muslim running the country.

Honestly, it just is so pathetic it is unbelievable. These people are scared to death they are losing their culture - and they are. Their kids hate them, end up on drugs or in jail or whatever. The lucky rich kids in the area get caught doing drugs and taken home to their parents.

My kids? Never touched drinking or drugs, nobody is pregnant or in jail, just great kids we love and get along well with. All their friends hang out here and call us Mom and Dad. When I ask why, it's "You never gave us anything to rebel against". My heart breaks when I look at their lack of job prospects, I apologize for the mess we are leaving them, we rail against the idiot politicians together and watch Stewart and Colbert together to relieve the anger.

What do they want? They want to recreate the world. The kind of worlds they build in their D and D games, their online games, their online communities, their network of friends. They want community - and they are creating it.


“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.” ~ Charles Darwin

darwin February 4, 2008 - 3:10pm

What do they want? They want to recreate the world. The kind of worlds they build in their D and D games, their online games, their online communities, their network of friends. They want community - and they are creating it.

Their D & D games, their online communities? What?... pretend communitites vs real communities. How about creating real communities?

ecophem February 4, 2008 - 3:17pm

Ecophem --- play is a precursor to action and to the creation of new structures. Play is the opportunity to explore different combinations, see what works and does not work, see how things interact and create non-linear dynamics; much like a guitar jam session in which songs are not yet written, play is the genesis of later structure.

Now as to what we want --- that is a different question and I am not sure. I think a sense of community that is more inclusive, less geographically restricted and less alienating than the mass media LCD culture of the past forty years is part of it; and this community building is more likely to occur as the current social structure is less immediately threatened by it then by any economic demands that we are not the ones who pay for the boomers' selfishness.

fester February 4, 2008 - 3:27pm

Okay - children play to learn interrelational skills.... that's a good analogy with the guitar jam session.

How is what YOU want any different than what I want? (I think a sense of community that is more inclusive, less geographically restricted and less alienating than the mass media LCD culture of the past forty years is part of it)

it then by any economic demands that we are not the ones who pay for the boomers' selfishness

I know you're not talking about this boomer because I've been working since I was 13 and I guarantee you that not much will be there (as in SS) when I'm ready.

What boomer selfishness do you mean specifically?

ecophem February 4, 2008 - 3:58pm

...when I see "boomer" used in this context, I'm dealing with someone too sure of his own immortality and righteousness to ever conceive of getting old. And too young to realize that most boomers started work when the "boom" was already a thing of the past. Goldwater, Reagan and the other architects of "me first" politics were not boomers. Yes, many boomers went along. And so will most of your peers if they ever have to make a hard choice. Whining about boomers is probably a very good indication that you're selfish enough to join them.

Gordon February 5, 2008 - 12:44am

And tell me it's just a game....

Or WOW. Or Second Life.....

If you haven't done online gaming, you might not get it. But it's certainly "real".


“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.” ~ Charles Darwin

darwin February 4, 2008 - 3:30pm

If I haven't done online gaming, I might not get it. Get what? That there's an individual at the other end? That can of get it?

ecophem February 4, 2008 - 3:52pm

has happened here, and what is starting to happen. We have formed a community, however loose, and now we are starting to meet each other in the flesh.

I am 51 today and the thoughts expressed about this generation and the boomers really hit home. I am concerned about my daughter's and granddaughter's future but I suspect that concern is very similar to the concern my parents had for me and my future when I was younger. And it seems that most of our friends are about 10 years younger than we are and hungry for knowing someone a little bit older. As if we know anything more about the meaning of life than they do, all we have learned and continue to learn is how little control we have and how the presence of the other is our treasure.


"I beseech you in the bowels of christ think it possible you may be mistaken."

Scott M February 4, 2008 - 4:08pm

because they are passionate about not wanting to grow up to be soccer moms, and not wanting to be, as importantly, soccer dads.

Bingo, at least as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to live like my parents do--driving an hour each way to work every day, living many, many miles out in an exurb, working enormous hours just to save up enough money for retirement. And that's the middle/upper-middle class situation. It's much, much bleaker for those lower on the socioeconomic ladder.

I don't want to drive forever every day in crowded traffic. I don't want to live in a sterile exurban community filled with people who think and look exactly like me. I don't want to have a "community" that consists entirely of my co-workers and a few neighbors I happen to see a few times per week. I don't want to work at a so-so or crap job for 40+ years just to reach retirement--and then spend my 60s and 70s "enjoying" my free time. It's too late.

Their D & D games, their online communities? What?... pretend communitites vs real communities. How about creating real communities?

Those are real communities, or at least the precursor forms to them. Give it some time--they don't have much in the way of ties to specific physical location, which is something that I think needs to develop a bit. But they're still young.

But, I should mention, that I too worry about what my generation will ultimately decide it wants. We'll see.

Bolo February 4, 2008 - 4:58pm

Those are real communities, or at least the precursor forms to them. Give it some time--they don't have much in the way of ties to specific physical location, which is something that I think needs to develop a bit. But they're still young.

Tangible communities.

I did check out the three 'communities' darwin referenced. The World of Warcraft - the name alone is a turn off. The other two, especially Second Life I'll check into more.

I've been with 'The Agonist' since 2002, especially in the run up to the attack on Iraq, and I would without a doubt refer to this as a community. There is only one other place, Les Enrages.org where I've felt a similar attachment. And - unlike here, I've actually met people from Les Enrages, as well as others there have met each other. However for the most part, I have no doubt that most who I come across here or elsewhere online, I will not meet up with.

ecophem February 4, 2008 - 8:49pm

i can provide a little personal insight on the "D and D" community being present gamer myself.

i assume you understand the basic concept of a role-playing game or at least the mainstream perception of "a buncha nerds pretending they are wizards", not that inaccurate of a depiction honestly but one that is ignoring all the great things about pen and paper role playing games.

to start with the basics, generally a group of 3-6 individuals who meet at one members home or a public location such as libraries or schools also and in contention with the alleged lack of centralized location: the game shop. the shop being where the rpg books and numerous other related materials and hobbies are sold, but also usually offers room for gaming. though rpg gamers are in competition for time with other hobbyist such as miniature wargames and collectable card games, so shops will just schedual most play time for each group but as a bonus offer special events or competitions.
to get a scale of how far this organized play can go, consider that espn 2 has aired tournaments for Magic the gathering, a popular fantasy collectible card game. this in addition to huge conventions that are comparable to the massive anime/sci-fi/fantasy/video game conventions, occasionally they are all in one, only adding to the connections of groups and individuals with related interests.

so we do have centers of community so to speak, but rpg gaming is still focused on small groups. Actual play is time consuming(probably partly explaining their popularity among military personnel and prisoners) lasting from at least 4 hours to 8 hours typically( some gamers are more diehard and participate in all-night and all-day gaming sessions) with the group meeting once a week at a usual time and place. though more frequent sessions or members belonging to more than one group are not uncommon. these socially close gaming groups often form enduring friendships outside of the game itself, just ask any former gamer about his old gaming buddies and you will get stories like they were old army buddies. of course there is is an opposite side, groups can simply fail to start and only last a few sessions, longer running groups are ended because some members move away, the close and frequent contact can breed resentment and conflict and break down even pre-game friendships. i like to think that the game appeals at some level to all people and while it may expose some of the bad elements of human nature it encourages people to improve themselves and to better understand and empathize with others ( if the editorial written in D&D's former official magazine, Dragon, that comments on the massive us prison population and the rights of prisoners, specifically their access to gaming books and materials, is any indication i'd say gamers are a pretty decent lot to say the least)

so there are certainly physical communities both close groups and wider associated enthusiasts organizations, a community that includes both young and old, without discrimination of race or gender(of course still mostly male but we are working on that, and yes there are gamers who have been around since the creation of the rpg over 30 years ago and yes they are silly gits and grognards that make all you "better aged" agonistas look dry and boring)

and as for a taste of the online rpg community check out enworld.org.
it is mostly a gaming news site but it also promotes online gaming communities and helps independent gaming publishers, in addition to the thriving forums where gamers ask questions about game rules, then debate those rules, collaboratively create new gaming content, relate gaming experiences and some that even relate their actual game campaigns as ongoing stories.
enworld ranks as 39,775 on alexa compared to the agonists 151,612

heh, this has compelled me to post an essay i did on D&D last year. it has some info just explaining the game itself but i spent the better part of the essay looking at the D&D scare roused up after the game came out, it touches on some of the crazier aspects of rightwing religious fundamentalists and the bastards who enable them. if anyone who was around for the eggbert incident and the pulling suicide, i cover both fairly well and debunk the bullshit that was propagated from those events.

p.s. i havent even mentioned the many positive effects of rpgs either but just a funny and ironic example is with suicides. the fundies and their frontmen(women) often tried to link D&D with suicide, but even their own statistics showed that D&D players had a lower rate of suicide than the general population.

Warvigilent February 5, 2008 - 8:13am

only accurately(kinda) measures member who use the alexa toolbar

enworld ranks as 39,775 on alexa compared to the agonists 151,612

Tina February 5, 2008 - 9:43am

...doesn't have land lines, so they can't be polled.

Gordon February 5, 2008 - 12:33am

Thats a great point that I think goes unconsidered often. Its not just the NudeGen either.

I dropped my landline a year ago or so and have no intention of going back to it.

ww February 5, 2008 - 7:08am

In the old days we attended GetTogethers, or GTs. We being us members of local dial-in BBSs, pre-web. I ended up here in Oklahoma City upon moving out here 7 years with the sysop of Miami's Zeppelin BBS. We all knew many others from other BBSs as well.

Last summer I journeyed to Caribou, Maine, home of the fellow whom gave me a free web site 4 years prior, and spent a couple of months there.

Nobody online I deal with is considered by me to be someone I'm unlikely to ever meet, quite the opposite; my experience has just slanted me toward expecting the possibility of meeting some day. I get along best with those who act and talk likewise, real flesh and blood humans. 6 years ago, I was interested in a lady in maylaysia and she reciprocated and i was considering working onboard for my passage there. the world is real, online and off.

I wonder if there are still dial-in BBSs and if boardwatch is still being published. there is, after all and post-web, still the mail art culture.

Zuma February 5, 2008 - 5:27pm

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