If You Need Lifesaving Drugs . . .


. . . better fly to China, or Thailand or visit those damned cheese-eating surrender monkeys in France who have tEh soshulized medicines because you are not going to get it here.

Look, this is serious shit and I'm not making light of it. But the moron in the article quoted as saying, "Anybody who is sure they know the answer to this question is probably kidding themselves," said Peter Lurie, a senior adviser in the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Office of the Commissioner, who works on public health issues, including drug shortages."

This is nuts. If you're seventy years old and a man and need to get a boner well, we have lots of drugs for you. But if your an elderly woman and sick, well, screw you. Find a rich husband I guess. Actually, this problem has a simple answer morally, but politically it is hard: the answer is to force the big pharma to oversupply critical, lifesaving drugs. Use regulations, legislation, fuck, use drones if need be.

This is just another big problem being slipped under the carpet by the shiny freedom bombing of peeps like Gaddafi and Awlaki. It's easier to kill than to heal.


Update: Oct 31 (Bloomberg)- Obama Order Targets Drug Price 'Gouging,' Easing Shortages     ~ eds


Sean Paul Kelley October 31, 2011 - 10:19am

that those politicians who were working on the problem are all Democrats...

BigPharm, of course, blames 'excessive regulation' but we all know the problem is greed. Under-production or over-pricing of 'orphan drugs' without a big market; cutting corners in manufacturing, leading to safety issues; etc. All for the extra $$$.

I have nothing against a business making a fair profit. That's where innovation and progress come from and is one of the rewards of risking capital.
I have a big problem with the "enough is never enough" attitude that seems to permeate much of the business world.

Some things traditionally coming from the private sector are so important to a society that they need regulation. If private companies cannot self-regulate acceptably, the government needs to step in.

Call me a Socialist, but maybe the only unregulated private businesses that should be allowed are those providing luxury or unnecessary products or services.
I don't care if yachts are overpriced or even if they are unsafe. I do care about the basic necessities: food, water, healthcare, housing, education.


"When you live on cash, you understand the limits of the world around which you navigate each day.
Credit leads into a desert with invisible boundaries."
- Anton Chekhov

steeleweed October 21, 2011 - 12:29pm

From the Bloomberg article :

"The administration's plan won't ease shortages because drugmakers have little incentive to raise output when Medicare and Medicaid, the two big U.S. public health programs, limit how fast the price of a drug can rise, said Devon Herrick, senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, a policy research organization in Dallas.

"Firms have little incentive to ramp up production," Herrick said. "

go to their site and see what kind of "analysis" they do....


The origin of the universe has not as yet been shown to be a conspiracy theory

nymole October 31, 2011 - 5:11pm

Right wingnuts Americans, their corporations and the govt. agencies that sleep with the coorp. and of course Republican tea partiers Are America's most dangerous ennemies. Oh I was forgetting the banks and the way your political system is rigged.May be the signs should read 30% in OWS

Jelco Cathlon October 21, 2011 - 1:00pm

Pretty obvious...

creativelcro October 21, 2011 - 4:53pm
Tina October 22, 2011 - 4:47pm

Four decades after Timothy Leary, LSD shows success in medical trials. Will the right completely trip?

actually really interesting reading about the comeback of LSD and not what you think. It appears Mr Leary's experimentation set back possible help for others for decades.

Tina October 22, 2011 - 5:05pm

Acid scared the Establishment, which was particularly rigid and uptight at the time. Could have benefited from some LSD slipped into Washington's water supply. :-D

A lot of Acid was dropped by people seeking 'spiritual' enlightenment and some thought they found it, others had 'bad trips'. A few got so high they never came down, some descending into insanity and some becoming as close to Holy as the modern world is willing to recognize.

Despite administering it in a clinical setting, I don't see much difference between the New Scientific Approach and less formal 'trips' in the 1960s. Even then it was often used with patients with terminal illnesses, usually cancer. There is also some evidence that it is effective in treating alcoholism and I've known people to use it to get off 'hard' drugs like heroin and amphetamine.

Despite our increased understanding of the brain, science is a long way from understanding the mind.
Scientists observe improvement in a patient's mental state, but fact is that they have no idea how or why it works. For far too long it was considered too dangerous for even research/experimental use (which was completely a matter of the Feds over-reacting), so if they get it off the Forbidden List, that will hopefully facilitate more research.

As far as negative reactions are concerned, it does not appear the current crop of researchers are doing anything to deal with 'bad trips' except trying to calm and reassure the patient. That's fine, but does not go far enough. There are specific character traits which greatly increase the possibility of having a 'bad trip' and even the possibility of going permanently crazy. Their protocol may cover that but the article gives no such indication.

In my experience during the '60s, people were introduced to the drug only after careful consideration of how they were likely to respond. I was once asked by a co-worker if I thought he should try it. I told him, "no", because I thought him 'mentally inflexible' and felt he would not be able to 'go with the flow'. He took it anyway, freaked out completely and was having very negative flashbacks for weeks afterward.

In many cases, an experienced user also took a small dose; not enough for a true 'high' but it was found easier to communicate with a new user if you were a bit stoned yourself. In my estimation, the researchers should experience it before they administer it.

IMO, psychedelics are just one more way to explore the fascinating byways of the mind, like hypnotism and meditation.
To me, it reinforces the concept that Reality is very much what you want to make of it.
Life is less the cards you're dealt than you play them.

The effects can indeed be life-changing and permanent. In that regard, repeated doses are seldom necessary - it's not a long-term drug regimen.
It's a learning experience and once you acquire a different way of experiencing the world, you no longer need the drug.
Rather like learning to ride a bike. You have no 'sense' of what it's like but when it all comes together, the feeling is locked into your mind/muscles forever.

I would never recommend that anyone take LSD - or fly a hang-glider, go sky-diving or do any of dozens of potentially risky things.
If one decides to do so, I can offer advice, guidance and understanding - and probably be more helpful than the researchers.

Turned On.
Tuned In.
Did not Drop Out - at least not very far Out.


"When you live on cash, you understand the limits of the world around which you navigate each day.
Credit leads into a desert with invisible boundaries."
- Anton Chekhov

steeleweed October 22, 2011 - 6:50pm

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