The Comanches


This is kind of a random free association comment, but hey, it's a blog so why not?

A couple of months ago, as you know, I read John Graves' book, "Goodbye To A River." One aspect of the book I liked the most were his tales of the Comanches along the upper Brazos River. The tales he tells in an oh-so Texas idiom are well worth reading on for their stylistic value. But more importantly I had not realized until then that many of Texas' modern pathologies can be traced directly back to the brutal warfare between white pioneers and the People, as they called themselves. While the memories of the brutal plains warfare are only in books now, my father has told me tales about his Grandfather who as a child had lived with the very real fear of the Plains Indians, although he never experienced it. The tales were within living memory to my grandfather. But I digress.

Up until reading Graves I had zero interest in reading about the Comanches, but as the intellectual process is a strange, tangential affair I picked up Fehrenbach's history of the Comanches and a history of the Texas Rangers. Finally, I've been reading "Empire of the Summer Moon" about Quanah Parker, the last Comanche chief. As a boy growing up in Texas Quanah was often used as the "boogey man" is used in other places to terrify the young. More important: to the Texas settlers the land was theirs, made manifest by destiny. But the Comanches were born unto the land. Thus it was foreordained one group would lose everything. The two could never coexist.

The other day after reading about a particularly brutal episode of Comanche-settler violence I made the connection: the mindless violence between the Israelis and the Palestinians, the Settlers and the tribal vengeance is very, very similar. There is a very real analogue between what the Israelis are doing with the Settlements and what the white settlers in Texas did to the Comanches.

Make of it what you will.


Sean Paul Kelley September 23, 2011 - 9:27am
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Also read 'Empire of the Summer Moon' recently. You're right that the settlers & Comanches could not coexist. Something similar happened all over the continent, but it Texas it was more clear-cut and overt.
Maybe that's why Texans today seem to be more up-front than most Americans about their feelings, good and bad. I've heard racism expressed more openly in Texas than in anywhere else in the country.

Israeli settlers do indeed feel that all of 'greater Israel' should be theirs. It would be interesting to see what would happen if/when a Palestinian State is established in the West Bank. My feeling is that Israel should recognize such a state, not try to claim or maintain any settlements, let the settlers either come back to the current Israel or simply become Jewish citizens of Palestine. If the IDF stopped supporting and protecting the settlers and if the Arabs establish a state, we'd see a lot of ex-settlers fleeing the West Bank - and, unfortunately, ratcheting up the right-wing rhetoric in Israel.

You are right: there is a great similarity between Israel and the early Texan attitude. Only an arrogant sense of entitlement could support such an approach to settlement. That arrogance automatically generates hatred of anything which gets in the way of settlement.

Rather reminds me of the arrogant sense of entitlement on the part of the Money Party, although they mask their fear and hatred of us common folks with a little more subtlety. Rather than kill us outright (and thus risk resistance) they leave us homeless, unemployed and lacking healthcare to twist slowly in the wind and die without soiling the hem of their robes with guilt.


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steeleweed September 23, 2011 - 10:22am

Interesting point. Here's an FYI...the only treaty (ever) that was not broken was between the Comanche and the German settlers around Fredericksburg, Texas. There is a powwow each spring there in remembrance of that little heralded fact.
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OldLakeRat September 23, 2011 - 10:30am

I was not aware of the pow-wow each Spring. I might have to attend on of those. Would be very interesting. The Germans in the Hill Country are a very fascinating group in their own right. The only pro-Union monument in the South is in or near Comfort Texas, put up by Germans who opposed slavery and the Civil War.

Bad decisions make good stories.

Sean Paul Kelley September 23, 2011 - 10:32am

a good one, as powwows go. It's held outdoors and is fairly large. This past year it was mired in controversy, (AIM rears its' head) but all seems to be well in the Native community now. I'll keep you updated this next Spring as the date gets near.
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OldLakeRat September 23, 2011 - 10:53am

Bad decisions make good stories.

Sean Paul Kelley September 23, 2011 - 10:57am

I'm about half way through this book. My preconceived notion of the Comanches was totally wrong. Not sure the comparison is accurate as The Texans and Americans in general had a Manifest Destiny attitude that everything was theirs and they could keep expanding no matter what was in their way. In the middle east there are many deep rooted complex issues but it is more of the Palestinians and Israelis wanting to feel secure in some final arrangement.

geraldatwork September 23, 2011 - 10:37am

notions about the Comanches were?

Bad decisions make good stories.

Sean Paul Kelley September 23, 2011 - 10:42am

It was Israel's staunch support of the apartheid South African government that first clued me in to the fact that it was about being a settler society.

nihil obstet September 23, 2011 - 11:20am

All the smiting, raping, pillaging, slaving and so on is typical tribal retro behavior of the human species. It is the rear brain spinal chord making decisions without the benefit of prefrontal lobes.
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JT September 23, 2011 - 10:04pm

The impossibility of "peaceful coexistence" between the Texans and the Comanches does indeed explain a lot of Texas history, but as "Empire of the Summer Moon" pointed out, both the Comanches and the Texans were recent interlopers from expansionist cultures in the territory. While the Israel could be considered (as they are by the Palestinians) as the last great colonial enterprise, the parallel with the Comanche-Texan situation isn't quite perfect. The Texans v. the Apaches is a better example (or the Comanches v the Apaches perhaps).

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Richard Grabman September 24, 2011 - 7:07pm

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