Mea Culpa


I've found in life that when I am wrong the best thing to do is just come right out and admit it.

Here goes: I was wrong. Wikileaks, based on the evidence that the DoD has presented, did its level best to work with the DoD to redact any names that might harm innocent Afghans. The Pentagon not only lied about it, but has even refused to cooperate going forward:

The blood, if there is to be any, is on the Pentagon's hands. It's that simple.


Sean Paul Kelley August 20, 2010 - 3:19pm

The blood, if there is to be any, is on the Pentagon's hands. It's that simple.

... A. F. U.

chalo August 20, 2010 - 4:36pm

Sounds to me like the offer for oversight pertains to the 15,000 hold back documents. Even if not - and I personally would assess that probability as very low - offering oversight on the night of the 24th (a Saturday) for something released less than 24 hours later is, um, optimistic. Additionally, from a common sense perspective, this is the greatest weakness to their release - if they had a comms chain showing that they could hang it on the USG, they'd be trumpeting it from the heavens and it wouldn't be buried in a wire service article from three weeks ago.

“The absence of any US-Iran bilateral channel...may have the perverse effect of reinforcing Iranian interest in progressing in the nuclear realm so that the US will be forced to take it seriously and engage it directly." ~ Richard Haass

JustPlainDave August 20, 2010 - 6:04pm

now I want to highlight one thing you said:

if they had a comms chain showing that they could hang it on the USG, they'd be trumpeting it from the heavens and it wouldn't be buried in a wire service article from three weeks ago.

Just consider this little factoid: the Pentagon spends $5 billion a year on media relations.

And you want to put the burden of proof on Wikileaks?

"Sí che dal fatto il dir non sia diverso."

-Dante

Sean Paul Kelley August 20, 2010 - 6:16pm

...against some pretty significant PR machines - my number one little learning is that the truth, when it happily breaks down into something simple to appreciate like this, is a pretty awesome defence. And yeah, if they want to use the defence, they should have to prove it.

“The absence of any US-Iran bilateral channel...may have the perverse effect of reinforcing Iranian interest in progressing in the nuclear realm so that the US will be forced to take it seriously and engage it directly." ~ Richard Haass

JustPlainDave August 20, 2010 - 6:22pm

, for example, the truth that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. 70% of the US population believed it when it mattered: when the war was being sold.

The truth does not set you free. It is not always believed, and propagandists often do win.

Ian Welsh August 22, 2010 - 6:01am

...assertion. Even at this point the truth is wee bit more complex than than the now predominant absolutist talking points against any connections.

This case, very simple: one's got the comms log - if it says what one says it does, one releases it. If one doesn't, reasonable observers tend to think either they don't got the log, or it doesn't say what it's billed to say.

“The absence of any US-Iran bilateral channel...may have the perverse effect of reinforcing Iranian interest in progressing in the nuclear realm so that the US will be forced to take it seriously and engage it directly." ~ Richard Haass

JustPlainDave August 22, 2010 - 7:58am

Sean, you said that "The Pentagon not only lied about it, but has even refused to cooperate going forward:" I'll accept the accuracy of this based on your read.

Having done so, that places the responsibility on the Pentagon.* There was another party here, Wikileaks. They released the documents. They also had responsibility. They should have done their best to redact the documents. There was no excuse to release them to the NYT, der Spiegel, or the Guardian without having done that.

Since they didn't redact the material that they would have suspected could get someone killed, they're responsible for those deaths.

*Based on what Dave said, the 24 hours is a real problem in all of this. That's not realistic or serious.

Michael Collins August 20, 2010 - 8:44pm

"offering oversight on the night of the 24th (a Saturday) for something released less than 24 hours later is, um, optimistic."

You're subtlty is not lost but allow a cruder interpretation. How serious was the offer with a 24 hour time line? Sounds a bit contrived.

Michael Collins August 20, 2010 - 8:36pm

do you know if the documents were released on a pre-announced schedule, or if they just appeared that day out of the blue?

Seems one possibility that requires elimination is that it wasn't a 24 hour deadline at all - that the Pentagon's response caused them to shrug and say "Oh well, since you have no interest, it might as well be tomorrow then".

[Wiki says "25th by previous agreement" - I'd like to know the specific nature of that agreement]


"The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential."

- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Escher Sketch August 20, 2010 - 11:31pm

...which translates to 5:03 PM EDT. Guardian story has this quote buried:

The Guardian, the New York Times and Der Spiegel agreed to publish their reports simultaneously, at the same time as Wikileaks released the full database online."

The NYT note to readers states:

The documents — some 92,000 individual reports in all — were made available to The Times and the European news organizations by WikiLeaks, an organization devoted to exposing secrets of all kinds, on the condition that the papers not report on the data until July 25, when WikiLeaks said it intended to post the material on the Internet."

My assessment? Consistent with release on pre-planned sked dating prior to the offer of oversight.

“The absence of any US-Iran bilateral channel...may have the perverse effect of reinforcing Iranian interest in progressing in the nuclear realm so that the US will be forced to take it seriously and engage it directly." ~ Richard Haass

JustPlainDave August 21, 2010 - 8:56am

You mean the Pentagon lied to the public? Would the government do that?
Egads! I guess there's a first (or thousandth) time for everything.

steeleweed August 20, 2010 - 7:29pm

on the topic of its 2000 release of leaked documents pertaining to Operation Ajax, the CIA's operation to overthrow the Iranian government in 1953.

It's an interesting read in today's context. I'm not suggesting the situations are parallel, but there are interesting related threads.

In disclosing this history, the Times initially reproduced only a summary and four appendixes to the original document. It prefaced each excerpt with a statement explaining that it was withholding the main text of the document on the grounds that “there might be serious risk that some of those named as foreign agents would face retribution in Iran.” Eventually, the Times produced the main document after excising the names and descriptions of virtually every Iranian mentioned.

In posting the main body of the history on June 18, 2000, the Times’ technical staff tried to digitally black out the unfamiliar Iranian names, but enterprising Web users soon discovered that in some cases the hidden text could be “revealed” without much technical savvy. The Times quickly pulled those portions of the document and reposted them using a more fool-proof redaction method. The Archive is reproducing the latter versions of the document, even though most of the individuals known to be named in the history are either already dead or have long since left Iran.

The posting of this document is itself an important event. Although newspapers regularly print stories based on leaked documents, they far more rarely publish the documents themselves, typically for lack of space. The World Wide Web now offers a tremendous opportunity for the public to get direct access to at least some of the sources underlying these important stories — much like footnotes — rather than relying on second-hand accounts alone. The Times performed a valuable public service in making available virtually the entire Wilber history. Its precedent should be a model for future reporting that unveils the documentary record.

Although the Times’ publication was not without controversy, mainly over the unwitting revelation of Iranian names, fundamental responsibility for their exposure rests with those officials at the CIA who, despite compelling public interest and the filing of a lawsuit, insisted that virtually the entire document had to remain sealed. As Steven Aftergood of the Federation of American Scientists put it:

If the CIA had exercised a more discerning classification policy and had declassified the bulk of the report, then there would have been no "leak" to the New York Times, and no subsequent disclosure of agent names. Instead, through overclassification, [Director of Central Intelligence George] Tenet failed in this case to fulfill his statutory obligation to protect intelligence sources and methods.


"The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential."

- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Escher Sketch August 20, 2010 - 7:37pm

Iran had a democracy. The British and US intel operations groups staged a coup and destroyed the democracy. This followed an extended period of sanctions against Iran. The reason behind the sanctions is the reason behind the coup. Iran was demanding reasonable terms for extracting its oil and then British Petroleum would have none of it. This is similar to the coup in Guatemala around the same time. A freely elected government was tagged Communist and overthrown by a US intelligence operation to secure United Fruits' banana franchise. Senior members of the Eisenhower administration had interests in United Fruit or connections to the company.

Wikileaks has yet to match the leak of Ajax. In fact, it's behind the National Security Archive at George Washington University in releases on major events.

Michael Collins August 20, 2010 - 11:46pm

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