Didn't We Excoriate . . .


. . . the Chinese for doing just this in the 90s? Sometimes I feel like I'm in one of those movies where the lead character awakens in an alternative universe!


Sean Paul Kelley July 22, 2010 - 6:37pm
( categories: Liberties )

is the desire to hide the use of inmates. Even when we fussed at the Chinese, the practice was common in the U. S. We really think slave labor is okay, but we are a little embarrassed when there is publicity. I believe that the Federal prison system is the biggest user of this sort of behavior: lending inmates to corporations.

pihwht July 22, 2010 - 8:17pm

Why if i didn't know any better...better being that this is the freest, bestest damned country ever...i'd be tempted to steal a phrase like Gulag Archipelago. But i do know better.

Lex July 22, 2010 - 11:50pm

Using prisoners is not the same thing as the slave trade.

But it is cheap labor exploitation.

The article does concede the point that most locals don't want (or physically just can't do) the work. They don't want the toxic exposure, the grueling, toiling nature of the work. One source states that sometimes half of a recruited work team will quit after just one day.

For the inmates the choice is different. Do they want to get out of the prison complex for the day? Do they want time chopped off their sentences? Do they want to be able to save a little money before they get out? Do they want a successful work-release program listed on their record?

So the inmates are a lot more likely to stick with the work.

It's not an equal situation by a long shot; the prisoners are definitely an underclass, and treated as such by their state-employee overlords.

But they are not in the same situation as the traditional slaves of the South were before the Civil War. They are not humans owned by other humans, traded or sold in the marketplace, and subject to any abuses their owners heap on them.

yogi-one July 23, 2010 - 3:21am

Any prisoner who doesn't want to work in a toxic environment, or who doesn't want to work any particular job can say no. Not slavery at all. Of course, he'll be punished for saying no and his term may well be longer since he loses "good time" he may have accumulated.

I'd be curious to know how much of the 'wage' the inmate ultimately receives after paying for food, board, clothing, travel expenses, and "other incidental expenses."

http://law.justia.com/louisiana/codes/145/78843.html

pihwht July 23, 2010 - 3:46pm

We sell convicts' organs to wealthy people.

Tim July 23, 2010 - 9:50am

...it isn't being done already? As I rcall Gary Gilmore's eyes were salvaged after his execution (nothing else was usable, since the firing squad were poor marksmen)

Some of this mindset may be cultural...whether your culture accepts that even convicted criminals have Rights, even while incarcerated, or if it goes with the idea that Convicts forfeit their Rights when convicted, and therefore are objects in the Penal System to be moved around and used however the system or government believes best servs the Government or the People of the state/nation...

Longer-winded than I prefer---personally I think I prefer the former, but the RIght in this country plainly seem to prefer the latter...

"If Stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?" -- Will Rogers

justadood July 23, 2010 - 6:38pm

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