Asker Or Guesser?


Are you an asker or a guesser?

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This is a classic case of Ask Culture meets Guess Culture. In some families, you grow up with the expectation that it's OK to ask for anything at all, but you gotta realize you might get no for an answer. This is Ask Culture.

In Guess Culture, you avoid putting a request into words unless you're pretty sure the answer will be yes. Guess Culture depends on a tight net of shared expectations. A key skill is putting out delicate feelers. If you do this with enough subtlety, you won't even have to make the request directly; you'll get an offer. Even then, the offer may be genuine or pro forma; it takes yet more skill and delicacy to discern whether you should accept.

I grew up in a 'guesser' family. So most of my siblings have pretty perceptive emotional antennae, which is odd as one member of the family, who will remain unnamed, is emotionally clueless. It was difficult to learn how to be an 'asker.' But after years of travel, dealing with strange cultures and learning how to 'ask' as a matter of survival, I'm much more inclined to just ask, unless I am in a pervasive 'guessers' household or environment. Which one are you?


Sean Paul Kelley May 12, 2010 - 2:33pm
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In this paradigm, my family was guess culture, but this description leaves out the power games. The more powerful people, the adults, rarely explicitly made requests, but God help you if you didn't do what they wanted. And of course, they could remain selfless saints who never asked for anything for themselves. Since the request was never articulated, you never got to express why you didn't want to do it. Ever heard "Now, don't be like that" with "that" never defined?

Guess culture can be very useful for negotiating without anybody losing face or having to backtrack, but it definitely favors hierarchies.

nihil obstet May 12, 2010 - 3:33pm

"Sí che dal fatto il dir non sia diverso."

-Dante

Sean Paul Kelley May 12, 2010 - 3:52pm

Requires telepathy?

Or were there just subtle hints (and manipulation)?

Synoia May 12, 2010 - 4:35pm

experience.

"Sí che dal fatto il dir non sia diverso."

-Dante

Sean Paul Kelley May 12, 2010 - 4:46pm

if I asked for too much, I'd hear, "If wishes were horses, we'd all take a ride." That's a pretty decent version of no. My parents had a morbid gambit also. If I'd done something particularly outrageous (this is as a teen), the discovering parent would say, "If your (mother-father) knew about this it would just kill (him-her)." That ended one day when my mother said that and I noted that my father already knew about my offense and he was still quite healthy, to which she responded, "Oh, Michael!" That was the end of the tradition.

Michael Collins May 12, 2010 - 7:18pm

my family now is an "asker" tribe (the family I made ;).)

zot23 May 12, 2010 - 9:48pm

though not too strongly--a bit of guessing was sometimes involved. I'm a strong asker now.

This is an interesting way to frame things. For example, the director of my academic program is an extreme guesser who I goes out of his way to withhold information from people and then attacks them when they ask about it because they "don't know" and "haven't just figured things out." Bit of a problem since it's a new program that requires large amounts of clear communications and negotiation between people from very different backgrounds. Plus, it's supposed to be a very open, "flat" academic program in which faculty and students are respected on nearly the same level. So yeah, that hasn't happened.

This also explains why I and some other students have gotten on the director's bad side for "asking."

Bolo May 12, 2010 - 11:18pm

That's what guess culture was in the therapeutic 80s which applied to my family of "non-askers" growing up. I carry this "skill" with me into my new family and onto my children. My wife fortunately is teaching me to just ask, communicate, take words and meanings at face value and assume that actions towards others(within the context of family) are done with sincerity and openness. Not easy for someone who grew up guessing. nihil obstet's astute observation was spot on; power games (that often conceal heavy baggage from the past) are central in "guess culture" family.

stuart noble May 12, 2010 - 11:47pm

and what nihil said about power games rings true.

someofparts May 13, 2010 - 8:12am

"Guess" culture, if that's what you want to call it, is a manipulator culture if it's something done all the time. We all do it to some extent, some more than others and for people who do it all the time take a hike because eventually I'll have nothing to do with you. Remember men used to launch the charge of manipulation against women all the time because that's how they got their way in a male dominated society. Well it may have served a useful purpose then but now it's just games playing. "Ask and you shall receive." That's one of the few biblical phrases that I cherish. And I'm an atheist.

pvbklyn May 13, 2010 - 8:25am

It is difficult to play the guessing language games if you can't speak the language well. They have no clue what you are trying to say.
In many Asian cultures, Americans are known for their brashness in asking. They also don't know how to play the guessing games in a different language.
I also think that southerners in the US, particularly of Scots-Irish heritage are more inclined to use guessing as a social strategy. I attribute this to the tribalism in the culture and the inability to just shrug off an inadvertent insult or loss of face...everybody needs to be real polite and oblique or mistakes get made and somebody ends up dying.

JT May 13, 2010 - 11:29am

is that Asians and Westerners have what I would call a different set of "asks" that are okay socially, and a different set if "guesses" that are okay socially.

When an Asian asks me how much I make--which is usually the third question anyone ever asks--at first I was insulted. That's simply not something you ask in the West. Period. But in Asia it is deemed okay.

So, a lot of it is just different societal sets of asks and guesses.

As for your comment about Scots-Irish in the South: I'd have to agree.

"Sí che dal fatto il dir non sia diverso."

-Dante

Sean Paul Kelley May 13, 2010 - 1:04pm

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