Local Plane Crash


I wasn't in the building, but I was close. Heard it. And then heard the sirens. Strange thing is, I almost took a job in that building.

Wow: this thing is getting weird. Apparently the plane crash was a suicide, by an anti-IRS type. His alleged manifesto is here. Apparently he torched his home this morning and stole a plane.

One other thing: the news article says both the CIA and the IRS had offices in the building. The CIA in Austin? WTF?

Photos of the crash site can be found here, taking by my good friend Joel Greenburg.

Update: Details and confirmations can be found at the Austin American Statesman:

A plane crashed into a Northwest Austin building that houses federal offices about 10 this morning, injuring several people and sparking a fire that sent plumes of smoke into the air that could be seen for miles.

A Federal Aviation Administration spokesman said the crash, at the Echelon 1 building in the 9400 block of Research Boulevard, was “apparently a criminal act.”

Austin Fire Department Division Chief Dawn Clopton said that the FBI would be taking over the investigation.

The plane, a single-engine Piper Cherokee PA-28-236 Dakota, took off from a Georgetown airport at 9:40 a.m., Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Laura Brown said just after noon. The airport has been evacuated, said Georgetown police Lt. Todd Turbush said, though he did not have details on why.


Sean Paul Kelley February 18, 2010 - 1:26pm
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but don't call him a teabagger just yet. this is Emotional Reaction News Product of the first order, and the SCLM never gets the details completely right on first blush. NOLA and more taught us that.

chicago dyke February 18, 2010 - 3:21pm

I imagine they have branch offices all over the country.

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-Geoduck

geoduck February 18, 2010 - 3:23pm

Wow, you heard the crash noise? Anyway, I wonder if these types of events will encourage others to just give up an make a fireworks kind of exit. A lot of people are really on the edge of losing control, IMO. Difficult to know what might trigger mass chaos.

Regarding CIA: of course they have offices in Austin... Dig into it, you'll be surprised/disturbed.

creativelcro February 18, 2010 - 3:42pm

Yes, Texas might succeed, which would require the full attention of the CIA. They just getting ready for the succession.

Synoia February 18, 2010 - 5:08pm

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creativelcro February 18, 2010 - 5:18pm

For some reason, the rest of the electric grid in the US is integrated but not with Texas, Texas can essentially go off the power grid whenever they want.

Joaquin February 18, 2010 - 5:30pm

Interesting.

creativelcro February 18, 2010 - 6:26pm

...here.

“The absence of any US-Iran bilateral channel...may have the perverse effect of reinforcing Iranian interest in progressing in the nuclear realm so that the US will be forced to take it seriously and engage it directly." ~ Richard Haass

JustPlainDave February 19, 2010 - 12:50pm

The Texas Governor has made statements appearing to support succession, at various Texas Tea Parties.

Synoia February 18, 2010 - 7:22pm

...inside the US than is commonly realized. I've never seen a listing of domestic CIA offices but the list of FBI field offices (full field offices, not RAs), emphasizing the upper half is probably a good start.

“The absence of any US-Iran bilateral channel...may have the perverse effect of reinforcing Iranian interest in progressing in the nuclear realm so that the US will be forced to take it seriously and engage it directly." ~ Richard Haass

JustPlainDave February 18, 2010 - 5:27pm

...24 local offices (as compared to 56 FBI Field Offices). The number of postings seems to have increased as well - every FBI field office now has CIA representation; there's a CIA presence at the JCTTFs [not unrelated to the first]; and a number of the fusion centres also have CIA slots.

“The absence of any US-Iran bilateral channel...may have the perverse effect of reinforcing Iranian interest in progressing in the nuclear realm so that the US will be forced to take it seriously and engage it directly." ~ Richard Haass

JustPlainDave February 19, 2010 - 12:53pm

eom


"All I know is just what I read in the newspapers." - Will Rogers

readr satx February 18, 2010 - 6:54pm

But while the Department of Homeland Security was investigating the crash, federal officials emphasized that they did not consider the case to be a terrorist attack.

The guy has issues with the IRS serious enough to motivate him to fly his plane into their branch office and it's not a terrorist act?


“I despise ideologues masquerading as objective journalists.” - Bill O'Reilly, March 30, 2007

Mark February 18, 2010 - 7:10pm

1. He was not a Muslim
2. There is no one to waterboard
3. He was white

Synoia February 18, 2010 - 7:23pm

Salon.com, By Glenn Greenwald, February 19

Yesterday, Joseph Stack deliberately flew an airplane into a building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas, in order to advance the political grievances he outlined in a perfectly cogent suicide-manifesto. Stack's worldview contained elements of the tea party's anti-government anger along with substantial populist complaints generally associated with "the Left" (rage over bailouts, the suffering of America's poor, and the pilfering of the middle class by a corrupt economic elite and their government-servants). All of that was accompanied by an argument as to why violence was justified (indeed necessary) to protest those injustices:

I remember reading about the stock market crash before the "great" depression and how there were wealthy bankers and businessmen jumping out of windows when they realized they screwed up and lost everything. Isn't it ironic how far we've come in 60 years in this country that they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal from the middle class (who doesn't have any say in it, elections are a joke) to cover their asses and it's "business-as-usual" . . . . Sadly, though I spent my entire life trying to believe it wasn’t so, but violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer.

Despite all that, The New York Times' Brian Stelter documents the deep reluctance of cable news chatterers and government officials to label the incident an act of "terrorism," even though -- as Dave Neiwert ably documents -- it perfectly fits, indeed is a classic illustration of, every official definition of that term. The issue isn't whether Stack's grievances are real or his responses just; it is that the act unquestionably comports with the official definition. But as NBC's Pete Williams said of the official insistence that this was not an act of Terrorism: there are "a couple of reasons to say that . . . One is he’s an American citizen." Fox News' Megan Kelley asked Catherine Herridge about these denials: "I take it that they mean terrorism in the larger sense that most of us are used to?," to which Herridge replied: "they mean terrorism in that capital T way."

All of this underscores, yet again, that Terrorism is simultaneously the single most meaningless and most manipulated word in the American political lexicon. The term now has virtually nothing to do with the act itself and everything to do with the identity of the actor, especially his or her religious identity. It has really come to mean: "a Muslim who fights against or even expresses hostility towards the United States, Israel and their allies." That's why all of this confusion and doubt arose yesterday over whether a person who perpetrated a classic act of Terrorism should, in fact, be called a Terrorist: he's not a Muslim and isn't acting on behalf of standard Muslim grievances against the U.S. or Israel, and thus does not fit the "definition." One might concede that perhaps there's some technical sense in which term might apply to Stack, but as Fox News emphasized: it's not "terrorism in the larger sense that most of us are used to . . . terrorism in that capital T way." We all know who commits terrorism in "that capital T way," and it's not people named Joseph Stack.

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In sum: a Muslim who attacks military targets, including in war zones or even in their own countries that have been invaded by a foreign army, are Terrorists. A non-Muslim who flies an airplane into a government building in pursuit of a political agenda is not, or at least is not a Real Terrorist with a capital T -- not the kind who should be tortured and thrown in a cage with no charges and assassinated with no due process. Nor are Christians who stand outside abortion clinics and murder doctors and clinic workers. Nor are acts undertaken by us or our favored allies designed to kill large numbers of civilians or which will recklessly cause such deaths as a means of terrorizing the population into desired behavioral change -- the Glorious Shock and Awe campaign and the pummeling of Gaza. Except as a means for demonizing Muslims, the word is used so inconsistently and manipulatively that it is impoverished of any discernible meaning.


They sicken of the calm, who knew the storm.

Raja February 20, 2010 - 1:33am

I was thinking the same...

creativelcro February 18, 2010 - 7:25pm

Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) is calling the Austin suicide pilot crash an act of “domestic terrorism" and compares the pilot to Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, who also expressed his hatred of the government.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33154.html#ixzz0fwIkSfdP


“I despise ideologues masquerading as objective journalists.” - Bill O'Reilly, March 30, 2007

Mark February 18, 2010 - 9:06pm

...outlaws in the U.S.


Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them,and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows,or with both~FDouglas

Celsius 233 February 18, 2010 - 7:16pm

were popular when and where?

Synoia February 18, 2010 - 7:26pm

Erm Alex Jones is fairly convinced its a setup!! Tho he was saying a couple days ago to expect the false flag attack upon the government (well he always says that but it was extra elevated in the last week). Also there were already hazmat teams parked outside, some eyewitness said.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/source-fbi-knew-austin-attack-was-coming.html
Move along, nothing intended to defame anti government alignments here.... :-D
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Hongpong.com

HongPong February 18, 2010 - 8:25pm

The Obama version of the WTC attack consists of Cessna and a seven story building; figures; what a wimp even Carter would have used a bigger plane!

Joaquin February 18, 2010 - 8:40pm

yep home grown because of his problems and how many more are to come? Sad but this were it begins and ends!

jo6pac February 18, 2010 - 9:55pm

Those that dismiss this guy as a single mindless idiot are missing the point. The grievances that fueled his anger are commonplace, the resentment many feel is real and there will be others that tire of playing within the rules when the rules fuck them over again and again while some rich motherfucker wearing a coat and tie walks away laughing.

One vote against the current system of taxing working people for the benefit of the ultrawealthy. His vote got counted.

This is better.

No innocent bystanders get hurt.

I did inhale.

Don February 19, 2010 - 10:21am

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