I'm Done


Obama has totally lost me now. Utterly. Completely:

President Obama plans to announce a three-year freeze on discretionary, “non-security” spending in the lead-up to Wednesday's State of the Union address, Hill Democratic sources familiar with the plan tell POLITICO.

If the Democrats allow this, I quite possibly will never vote for them again. If these words, or words to this effect cross Obama's lips, I walk away. I will not ever give money to the Democrats. I will not volunteer my time. I'd rather vote for a Republican, in earnest, because at the very least I know what I get when I vote for that snake. This guy is more Republican than Ronald Reagan.


Sean Paul Kelley January 25, 2010 - 8:56pm
( categories: USA: Presidency )

I never voted GOP in my life, but after the Dems' mewling pants-pissing post-Martha meltdown I've re-registering here in MA as independent and will never give another dime or minute to any more worthless politicians.

And yeah, at least with a Rethug I already know I'm fucked. I'll probably never vote for one unless they get off their bullshit moral and anti-intellectual crusades. Both parties were respectable, once.

forty2 January 26, 2010 - 12:09am

I must have missed something, fell asleep in class ... what has Conservatism ever accomplished?

Some principles are admirable ...

ww January 26, 2010 - 12:17am

Jared Bernstein was on Maddow and defended the plan... basically it's a "freeze" in name only. Some programs will grow while others are cut. It also does not have any effect on the stimulus, or any "future stimulus" package.

http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002502/

It's no much of a freeze at all, really... simply an excuse to look like you care about deficits, and using that as an excuse to kill government programs that don't work.

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bex January 26, 2010 - 11:11am

"The freeze would not apply to defense or foreign aid or spending on intelligence, homeland security or veterans."

Only applies to domestic aid...

creativelcro January 26, 2010 - 12:26am

How can this happen, Velcro? What about the "hope" for "change"? Was it all just a mirage?

Surely the once and future king of it all would never have ... OMG ... told outright lies in his procession to the thrown?

There's no way he was selected for his charm and public skills to keep the populace distracted while his sponsors looted the treasury?

No, I say, not one more word of any of this.

Michael Collins January 26, 2010 - 1:13am

First, I think the freeze is not a good idea because it boxes in what the Congress can do to stimulate the economy down the road.

Having said that, I don't recall anyone saying the freeze by itself would be the magic bullet. The budget for 2010 is already passed. Thus the one year wait. The earmarks Obama ran against have not abated, with the Recovery Act being the exception.

So, everyone can see that it alone is not the problem solver, everyone can also see where it will cap discretionary spending (pork) at a time of record deficits. Short of vetoing defense bills laden with pork there is little Obama can do without a line item veto other than to freeze discretionary spending.

He's lowered the boom a bit on Congress which protects Democrats from the charge of tax and spend, put the Republicans on the wrong side of the argument when their district asks "what have you done for me lately?," and protected his flank on spending that hasn't passed through committee.

Since we all agree its not going to 'freeze' that large a portion of the budget, we can also agree the risk to the economy follows suit. But it applies pressure to do something that matters, taking the BS out of the budget process. Like, pass a healthcare bill. Now that is both a job and a money saver, especially longer term.

I didn't and don't like it, but its just not as much to get worked up about as I first thought it was. It actually might be a very smart thing to do looking at it more broadly.

I think those who think they've solidly pegged Obama have a few surprises comin' their way. Goin' both ways.

ww January 29, 2010 - 6:54pm

Now it's time for neo-liberal austerity measures.

Lex January 26, 2010 - 12:51am

Would we be any better off with McCain? No -- he would simply have directed the taxpayer largesse at his own cronies.
Not that knowing he would have behaved the same way makes things any better.
From now on, I will be voting straight Green or Socialist -- if I can even be bothered to vote for any of these no-account assclowns...

"I shall continue to be an impossible person as long as those who are now possible remain possible."

-- Mikhail Bakunin

spaceman_spiff January 26, 2010 - 2:23am

McCandidate.
Three "party colors": red, blue, green
Speaks Liberal, Conservative, or Moderate
Programmed to say EXACTLY what you want to hear

Obama is quite likely the first of the McCandidates. With the recent Supreme Court ruling, there will be many more coming down the pipeline.

What flavor of Goldman-Sachs/Big Oil do you like?

yogi-one January 26, 2010 - 5:05am

McCandidate has a nice ring to it. A few weeks ago i decided that i'd attempt to pin the nickname "Big Mac" on Obama because like the real thing, the advertising picture looks delicious - if in a not quite believable sort of way - and then when you're confronted with the actual food product you find reheated, grey "meat" that looks nothing like the picture that enticed you into buying the damned thing.

Lex January 26, 2010 - 10:01am

Rather than suffer a self-inflicted wound of budget freezes and cutbacks, I thought Obama would be forced into something like this by the bond market vigilantes. At some point the bond market cannot ignore a leap in the annual budget financing needs from $400 billion to $1.9 trillion. In the bond market we began to notice long bond rates creeping up in the fall, just at the time the Chinese capped their monthly investment in Treasuries and stepped away completely from buying agencies. Rates began to inch up to 4.85%, the previous high from 2008. They've stalled since then because the bond market has two competing forces that drag rates down: the fear of recession or even depression, and the rush into Treasury safety if it looks likes the banks are in trouble again.

What we seem to have is an economic team left over from the Clinton era still living in fear of the bond market vigilantes, and therefore telling Obama he needs to preempt them by instituting this freeze. The freeze is like antimatter to the stimulus package of last year, and this doesn't seem to concern the White House. Which tells me that Summers, who is probably calling the shots here with Geithner egging him on, firmly believes the recession is over, the stimulus can be removed (which the administration has already begun to do in the housing market), and a reflated economy can now stand on its own.

It is easy to see how this will play out, and the pattern is sadly all of a piece with an economy whose real problem is deflation and debt deleveraging, not inflation (other than the asset bubble kind). This budget freeze will hurt the economy in the worst possible spot, at the consumer level. It will drive possibly millions of Americans to the brink, at the very moment most of the large states have run out of money for unemployment insurance and are borrowing from the federal government to keep these programs going. The housing market will slip back into decline, retailers of all sorts will throw in the towel and file for bankruptcy, several municipalities and states will also head to the bankruptcy courts, and the credit crisis in the financial industry will return once everyone realizes the banks are in the early stages of losses from credit card, auto loan, HELOC and other losses. The carnage will be much worse than what we saw in 2008, and is consistent with much of the market technical work I've seen which suggests we are heading into the real stock market crash that will herald the arrival of the depression.

I've also thought that the timing of this crash and depression could be deferred several years if the government successfully kept up its stimulus programs and propped up the consumer as the main focus of these programs. But now you have to wonder if this delay is even possible, when the government is not willing to tackle the burden of military costs, including generous pensions for generals and admirals and billions wasted in consulting contracts, but is willing to impose real pain on the average citizen.

This is much like a Kabuki drama where the players act out their assigned roles. Obama seems condemned from the start to drown in the depression that is unfolding and to do whatever possible to hasten its arrival.

Numerian January 26, 2010 - 7:01am

I've been sitting here pondering for the last 2 years or so whether to tilt my bets to either deflation or hyperinflation, it really was a draw. Obama seems to have solved that problem, massive deflation this Summer/Fall it is. Cash and shorts all the way...

My lord, what the hell is going on in Obama's head? This guy is so bass ackwards in his policies, I'm waiting or the color coding system to describe the market health each day.

zot23 January 26, 2010 - 11:10am

The empire is arriving at its final destination. We can outsource the whole federal government thru privaten Pentagon und Heimat Sicherheitdienst contracts. Get rid of Agriculture, Interior, Education,etc...and the rest of the discretionary spending departments. The Pentagon planners will know best and how to administer the no bid contracts.
And Social Security is already being taken care of with fiddling the CPI parameters. The field hospitals the military is setting up in Haiti will be the new Medicare/Medicaid model. Described on NPR this morning as MASH type field hospitals. All the retiring Boomers loved MASH didn't they?
All our problems solved.
Freedom's not free. Now, where are we going for lunch?

JT January 26, 2010 - 10:07am

It is pretty amazing how conservative ideas still rein supreme. O has already declared all defense or security cuts off limits from the get-go just to prevent the red meat crowd from declaring him a cowardly wimp. How is this nation going to correct itself if it cannot even begin to discuss rationale solutions?

Zman1527 January 26, 2010 - 11:35am

Why the rush to desert Obama just because he's not doing things the way you think he should? (Not to mean I agree with this so-called 'freeze.' It sounds more like shifting funds/money.)

ecophem January 26, 2010 - 2:33pm

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