Murdoch Might Succeed


I think Rupert Murdoch might succeed at this.

On Sunday, the day before the 20th anniversary of fall of the Berlin Wall, Rupert Murdoch appeared in an interview on Sky News in Australia, and promised to erect pay walls around all his company’s Web sites and then block Google from searching and linking to them.

Then again, anything that tweaks Google is usually something I approve of. But there is also a very real risk here of creating a full on right wing media ecosphere. The repercussions of such a development might be a purely right wing search engine full of fancy and empty of fact.

But I do think the days of free indexing are long gone. It's only a matter of time before content producers start charging for it to be indexed.


Sean Paul Kelley November 11, 2009 - 1:19pm
( categories: Media Criticism | Technology )

video at link

Rachel Maddow: And finally, Sky News Australia, the channel owned by Rupert Murdoch and run by his son James Murdoch, just landed the interview of the century. With Rupert Murdoch. In it the Australian media tycoon said he wants people to pay for all his news organisations’ online content. He said search engines like Google, which index content, quote, “steal stories”. And he said, he intends to stop them.
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Cut to video of interview:
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Interviewer: “The other argument from Google is that you could choose not to be on their search engine. That you could simply refuse to be on. So that when someone does do a search, your websites don’t come up. Why haven’t you done that?”
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Murdoch: “Well, I think we will.”
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Cut back to Maddow in the studio:
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Maddow: What an excellent idea. Then nobody will ever be directed to any of their stories through Google searches. And presumably, like Google, ‘Murdoch’ will also become a verb. To Murdoch: To magically attract an audience to one’s media product by ensuring that no-one knows it’s there.

Tina November 11, 2009 - 1:53pm

...the freight-paying audience comes into these sites through things like Google. I pretty much never go to sites that I pay for through search engines (and in fact, I find that their coverage in the engines is pretty hit and miss). If he's cutting out a media audience that is simply free riding and not affecting the folks keeping the lights on, it might well make a good deal of sense.

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JustPlainDave November 11, 2009 - 2:52pm

At least with smaller news sites you get a lot of hits off breaking events keywords, and all the time through the long tail (like names and places). "Organic" Google and Yahoo hits could easily be 3/4 of the traffic in some places, more likely 1/2 to 40% for larger ones. Thats just an estimate but I used to run politicsinminnesota.com and a lot of traffic came in all the time from searches.

This is great news really. The Murdoch style has always been so tabloid, now we'll see how much people are willing to cough up to get their brains rotted. Free brain rot at least you don't lose money gawking at.

Just imagine all the time people won't lose because no one wants to pay for Murdoch. Xmas comes early :)
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HongPong November 11, 2009 - 4:15pm

I don't believe a right wing search engine would go very far. Several years ago I was a visiting a friend at Alta Vista (now Yahoo). I noticed he was using Google for a search...because it returned more relevant links. The primary readers of the WSJ are business types with precious little patience for substandard information sources.

dwelchnz November 11, 2009 - 2:49pm

He fundamentally does not understand how the internet provides value. It is counterintuitive for the news media and so Murdoch is falling into the trap of trying to fight something that cannot be fought.

Content is what the news media traditionally believe are their family jewels but on the internet the value is in the reach of the content. That is the attraction of the content. By walling off content, Murdoch is reducing his reach.

If Murdoch thought carefully he would realize that bringing people to the content whence, his advertisers is really what its all about; charging for content works against that model.

Its hard to give away what you've traditionally thought of as value and Murdoch is definitely old school. I say go ahead, Murdoch, wall your stuff off because, you know, its mostly crap anyway and that's really why your afraid. Your afraid because the internet is not about a one way communication; it is two way and Rupert, your crappy content won't stand up to people when they can talk back.
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Joaquin November 11, 2009 - 5:13pm

Murdoch knows that google makes its money off indexing content; thus, as content providers monetize that privilege, google will have to start sharing revenue with content providers. it makes sense to me.

mrmx November 11, 2009 - 6:22pm

Google makes money off of advertising, an important distinction. For example a site with content increases its reach through Google's natural search. That is FREE money for the "indexie" like Murdoch because it increases his reach for free via the value of the content. Now Murdoch is getting "FREE" marketing thanks to Google and content. Now, in this model, Murdoch has a subsidy, thanks to Google that it can actually spend. This subsidy is the value of the traffic Google brings to Murdochs site which Murdoch makes money advertising and perhaps selling to. Now Murdoch can use this subsidy to underwrite his marketing channels. That's why, if you know SEO you can make a lot of money in my industry because SEO, Search Engine Optimization is the most important channel of any E-Commerce. Murdoch can choose to pay Google, this IS how Google makes money, for keywords i.e. paid search, this further enhances Reach. In fact if you can bracket search with natural search and paid search the re is a bonus.

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Joaquin November 11, 2009 - 6:38pm

Right, and the only reason why google sells advertising is because they give away indexing; i.e. think "wall drug," the drugstore that advertised "free water" so people would come to the store and buy something else.

so I totally understand your logic and we'll see together what happens when the "content producers" start to pull their content from google.

as a reference, cable companies pay content provides (cable channels):

Cable giants like Comcast and Time Warner Cable pay big bucks to distribute channels like CNN in your area -- perhaps $7 or $8 per subscriber, per year -- and have no interest watching their monopoly evaporate thanks to the Web, the iPhone App Store, or any other distribution vehicle they don't control. [source]

and it makes sense to me that google does the same thing.

CNN, of course, runs commercials too; that's why their monthly subscriber fee (less than a dollar a month) is so low.

mrmx November 16, 2009 - 10:01pm

How do you think Google would do if they charged you each time you searched? I suggest they would be out of business in a week but this is exactly what Murdoch is about to do; good riddance.

Google knows that it has to give away the indexing; exactly what Murdoch would consider the family jewels because the internet is all about bringing customers in. The Internet was a void before Google. Venture funded internet retailers would poor money into the media and not see a measurable return. Along came Google and all that changed; now there is such a thing as internet marketing where before it was a black hole lined with bits and bytes into which everyone poured money.

One great lesson in all of this are the Blender Tech folks. This guy makes a video of a blender blending an IPod which goes viral and so does Blender Tech's business. I actually went to a talk where the same guy blended a grass rake. He mentioned that one of the commentators on CNN wondered why he didn't choose to do a full page add in the New York Times instead. Remember, the original video seen by millions cost $80 to make. The NYT add would have sold a handful of Blenders.

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Joaquin November 17, 2009 - 12:07am

There are multiple ways to do it. In Murdoch's case, its called suicide.

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Joaquin November 11, 2009 - 6:43pm

My only gripe with Google was hiring Dan Senor as a lobbyist but that's about it. My objections to News Corporation are legion. So this is entirely too sweet. Google spoke like a Rector provinciae decked out in full purple. They could care less. Murdoch talks a lot about the internet and adapting but he's a blow hard, 3-D world type of guy. Murdoch is dealing with an monopoly of the mind, although a mild one. In comparison he's like a buzzing gnat worthy only of a mild swat. Perfect!

Google's statement, from AFP: "Publishers put their content on the web because they want it to be found, so very few choose not to include their material in Google News and web search. But if they tell us not to include it, we don't...If publishers want their content to be removed from Google News specifically all they need to do it tell us." Mediabistro.com

So, Rupert, just say no to Google! Sooner, not later. He's in a bind right now since, no doubt, one of his helpers has told him he's nuts. He can either do it at great cost or he can back off and be ridiculed.

AMF Rupert

The arrogant Murdoch withdrew search privileges from Google with a great deal of fanfare and was not heard of again, except when he took his media empire into Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

 

Michael Collins November 11, 2009 - 6:49pm

It will be supremely ironic when Rupie checks his Google Analytics and finds that his click rate has shit the bed while his subscriptions have flat lined.

paulo November 11, 2009 - 9:22pm

What fun it would be to watch Murdoch brutalize his own holdings that way.

Heck, I hope the old bastard ties a plastic bag over his head in an attempt to get oxygen to pay him for the privilege of being breathed.

chalo November 12, 2009 - 2:26am

ZeroHedge, By Tyler Durden, November 16

In a blow to ongoing plans by Murdoch (and others) to capitalize on premium content, a new study from Forrester shows that 80% of consumers would not be willing to pay for online news content. As readers are able to move from one content aggregator to another with greater facility than the Fed prints another billion dollars, Rupert's approach will likely entail a massive "game theoretical" strategy whereby either all move to a premium model or none do: if even one "defector" remains, it will render the "premium-paid" plan DOA.


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Raja November 16, 2009 - 4:46pm

20% of 300 million is 60 million and that's a big market. If half of those are actual possibilities (i.e. not kids), that's still a very big market! and I think the market is larger than that.

mrmx November 16, 2009 - 10:05pm

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