... language family that Finish belongs to as well. The latter also being totally undecipherable. Makes you winder about the migration patterns.

that Hungarian is in the same nearly-impossible language family (i.e. non Indo European and east of the Urals in origin) as Finnish and, if anything, is distinguished by being even more complicated. That's why at least Finns certainly tend to speak a lot of English.

Isn't this the reason that one of the top-rated non-Hungarian physicists working on the Manhattan Project stated that - as I'm paraphrasing here - "...Hungarians are the only people in the world who can go into a revolving door behind you and come out ahead..."? I guess more ethnic tension existed in the Manhattan Project team than is usually allowed.

the Finns dont seem to have a problem

"FiNNish" not "Finish" Sheesh, I don't know much about the language other than its spelling in English, and "Tervetuloa, toivatta" and I'm sure it all makes perfect sense to a Finn.

Anyway, yeah, if you're in Budapest there's really no point to learning Magyar for the most part aside from "igen/nem" and maybe the names of train stations (e.g "Deli pu." = "daily paulyadvar") unless you're only associating with old people who probably know Russian.

But yeah, it's a hard one for speakers of Romance/Germanic languages.

Father and family were from Pecs in the South, pronounced Pech. Spent many summers as a kid there but only learned a few words, only passed through Budapest a couple times though. 'Egeshededra' (spelling probably wrong) means 'cheers' (like when toasting with a drink) and 'vi son la tashra' (again, spelt as said) means 'see you later'.

Just enjoy where you are mon!

Caribdude