The Enemy That Almost Isn't


Fantastic article and push back on the meme that Iran is the next big enemy. Do yourself a favor and read this. Too bad it's not from an American paper.

Here's a sample:

The pro-American demonstrations, by all reports genuine (and unpunished), took place over several days in 2003. In that spring, Mr. Khatami sent a Swiss official to Washington to make the peace offer. In exchange for recognizing Israel, cutting off Hamas and proving it had abolished any nuclear-weapons plans, Iran wanted an end to sanctions, normal diplomatic relations with the U.S. and recognition of its role in the region. So what happened?

Yeah, what did happen? Read on and find out.

And one more:

It was reported this week, based on a new IAEA report, that Iran has produced “enough low-enriched, reactor-grade uranium to make a bomb.” This, as former Los Alamos National Laboratory scientist Cheryl Rofer has carefully documented, is scientific nonsense: Yes, that uranium contains enough U-235 to make a bomb. To get it out, you would need to kick all the inspectors out of the country, reconfigure thousands of closely watched centrifuges and engage in years of enrichment.

I believe this is the kind of article JPD referred to when he said we need more mid-term thinking. This article seems to be just that, if you ask me.


Sean Paul Kelley February 22, 2009 - 12:22pm
( categories: Iran )

Last time I checked Canada was still part of the North American continent. . . This is a matter for thoughts, lots of problems come from this part of the US ethos.
A better wording would have been, Too bad it's not from the US Pravda!

kschl February 22, 2009 - 2:43pm

every once i look at pravda to see what they're publishing. it's been a while now since i have, maybe a year. this comment got me looking and it seems to have changed a bit [more]. not sure what it is. ironically, not the content, but in some weird tone -more westernized.

http://english.pravda.ru/topic/afghanistan-634

Zuma February 22, 2009 - 6:18pm

or entities that emerge from the United States of America. Believe me, all the Canadians I've met overseas, although they do hail from the North American continent, would decidely not want to be called 'American' or 'Americans.' And I seriously doubt anyone from South America or Central America would want to be called so, either. So, please, spare me. You knew exactly what I mean.

“Is not our first thought to go on the road? The road is our source, our vault of treasures, our wealth. Only on the road does the ‘traveller’ feel like himself, at home.”
Ryszard Kapuscinski

Sean Paul Kelley February 22, 2009 - 11:29pm

read more carefully, and less defensively. he has a good point in there. peace

dk February 23, 2009 - 8:12am

correct. Unless you want to 'splain me what I missed?

“Is not our first thought to go on the road? The road is our source, our vault of treasures, our wealth. Only on the road does the ‘traveller’ feel like himself, at home.”
Ryszard Kapuscinski

Sean Paul Kelley February 23, 2009 - 8:45am

moment that I should be lectured on proper usage of this term. I've spent a great deal of my life abroad and am very aware culturally and quite sensitive to its needs. As a matter of fact, I'd submit that any reader of The Agonist would agree with him and understand but still find it rather peevish. It's a point that just doesn't need to be made here.

“Is not our first thought to go on the road? The road is our source, our vault of treasures, our wealth. Only on the road does the ‘traveller’ feel like himself, at home.”
Ryszard Kapuscinski

Sean Paul Kelley February 23, 2009 - 8:48am

eom

dk February 23, 2009 - 8:55am

...Yes that 2003 offer that was rebuffed, almost ridiculed by W and the WH goons, shows such Anti-Americanism...!

thanks for the reminder of the 2003 sane, reasonable, hand across the sea offer...of which hand, then got smacked around.

and btw, the author of "The Ayatolla Begs to Differ" who has spread a lot of real life info around about Iranians was recently there again, and said when he was in a taxi, in a bumper to bumper situation, the driver shouted:

"Death to traffic jams!"

puts the remarks about America so oft quoted of Iranians in a somewhat different light, eh?

i find information about real-life culture so enlightening and interesting.

and now NYT's Friedman, moral cretin that he is, is saying, we invaded Iraq for no other reason than that "We could". uhhh ermmm, yeah where were your brains on March 18, 2003 Tommy boy?

i guess you weren't listening others who were saying that very thing.

so what, i might ask, are you NOT LISTENING TO NOW? [that you will likely regret in 2012 or so]?

1700: "Abolish slavery!"
1800: Woman's Suffrage!"
2000:"World Peace!"

bernadene February 22, 2009 - 5:12pm

Iran not producing weapon-grade uranium: IAEA

Unlike the fantastic report that started this thread, the Hindu Times, is not an American source. :-)

Read also article from Arms Control Wonk.com entitled, Iran Panic Induced By Lousy Reporting. (believe that source is from the USA)

Both of those, I garnered from Juan Cole's site (yet another USA source) Not all of the reporting done in the United States is twisted and duplitious--depends on the reader's ability to absorb and believe which parts are factual.

canuck February 22, 2009 - 5:21pm

...as I see it is that Saudners doesn't ask the next and most germane logical question - is the previously offered framework for discussion still available? Given the surge in Iranian fortunes since 2003 and events , there's quite a significant body of thought suggesting that what's on offer now is likely to be a good bit different.

As an aside, note that the exchange was a roadmap for dialogue - emphatically not a "peace offer" in and of itself. Those interested in reading the text of the offer can find copies in Trita Parsi's Treacherous Alliance (with a contextual note from Ambassador Guldimann) and Barbara Slavin's Bitter Friends, Bosom Enemies.

“The absence of any US-Iran bilateral channel...may have the perverse effect of reinforcing Iranian interest in progressing in the nuclear realm so that the US will be forced to take it seriously and engage it directly." ~ Richard Haass

JustPlainDave February 22, 2009 - 11:08pm

the Iranian opinion of Trita Parsi. I know I would. or Babara Slavin

Slavin, what an appropriate name. I'm not saying their not credible experts, I'm just saying look at their allied/aligned interests. they're highly promoted mouth pieces, which I automatically view w/ suspicion. I'm sure you do too.

I also view the Persians as having invented chess. I'd be looking for Bobby Fischer right now, before I went into negotiations w/ the Iranians. Do you think Holbrooke or Haas is up to the task?

dk February 23, 2009 - 8:27am

...voices regarding US engagement with Iran. Slavin is now with the Washington Times [shudder] after many years with USA Today. Parsi is the head of the National Iranian American Council and it is a pretty well respected academic (IIRC he worked under Adjami and Zebig).

As to the Iranian opinion - I suspect there are some divergences between the official and popular views. Parsi hasn't been back to Iran in a number of years because of the government reaction [or fear thereof] to his work and Slavin, I don't know. I certainly haven't seen anything that would give basis for either of them being thought poorly of by the population generally (presuming they knew who they were).

“The absence of any US-Iran bilateral channel...may have the perverse effect of reinforcing Iranian interest in progressing in the nuclear realm so that the US will be forced to take it seriously and engage it directly." ~ Richard Haass

JustPlainDave February 23, 2009 - 12:37pm

Ok. of course Sean Paul I

Ok. of course Sean Paul I know what you mean. Actually people like the Agonistas are the seed of the best in the US. My point is just that the blur between continental identity and US identity is a part of the problem. For example lets put it in another context. How would Germans like it if the French named themselves Europeans or yet again how would Indians react if China would become Asia... Only the US does that by the way! The problem is that the common name America just contributes to the self satisfied ubris that took us all "westerners" in the global war on terror. I just think that the USA would be a better and more credible force if it was to put itself into context. Listen and learn is a good way to stay ahead and remain the best... In fact its just being wise. I just find it sad that ubris is part of US's way of naming itself. I also think its a left over of an older time when this nation did not have so many responsibilities.

kschl February 23, 2009 - 10:33pm

I am not sure we gave ourselves that 'name.' There was a time before World War Two when Americans abroad always identified by which state they were from, i.e. the United States, as in I'm from Texas, or someone from California, etc. . . but after World War Two the Europeans seemed (and I could be wrong) to just label us as Yanks or Americans. I think the Southerners took a bit of umbrage at this and took to the American label, as opposed to the 'Yank' one.

“Is not our first thought to go on the road? The road is our source, our vault of treasures, our wealth. Only on the road does the ‘traveller’ feel like himself, at home.”
Ryszard Kapuscinski

Sean Paul Kelley February 23, 2009 - 10:56pm

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