Seven In Ten


This is not a thread on generational warfare. Please, understand that. This isn't about 'bad baby boomers' or lazy Gen-Xers, or the Echo Boom being better than anyone. This is about one simple fact, that exit polls indicate 7 out of 10 people under 30 voted for Obama.

Seven in 10 voters under 30 backed Mr. Obama, and voters over 65 supported Mr. McCain.

And many did so for the first time. That is huge. And that is a great thing for America. So, let's avoid the generational warfare, because there are Boomers and Xers and Millenials that make up this community here at The Agonist and we all played our part. We all worked very hard in our own ways to make this historic moment happen.

But, I salute the Echo Boom, as Stirling called them, for leading the way from the beginning of Obama's campaign and reminding us of the power of regeneration that our America democracy has.

There is a lot of work to be done--the first of which is smashing the neo-con establishment into dust--and there will be many disappointments along the way. But change has come and I for one am grateful for every single voter that helped push Barack Hussein Obama over the top to become our President-Elect. God, I love how that sounds: President Barack Hussein Obama. Only in America, my fellow citizens. Only in America. Dare I believe in the American dream once again?

Nota bene: I'm with Tina on this. I always hoped I would see a African-American president in my life. But I always assumed I would see a woman first, in the mold of Thatcher. That I was proven wrong brings a huge smile to my face. And, as I am overseas I'd like to indulge Petronius' gloat for moment. America has deep, deep problems, but I would submit to you that this day gives me hope. Are we likely to see an Algerian as president of France? Or an Arab-Israeli as Prime Minister of Israel? Or an Indian PM of the UK? Or a German-born Turk as Chancellor? For once, the world simply cannot lecture America on its problems of race. And that, my fellow citizens feels good. We've done something right and good here. There is more to do, however, let us not forget that as we deservedly bask in this tremendous victory.


Sean Paul Kelley November 5, 2008 - 1:18am
( categories: USA: Campaign 2008 )

Of all the individuals and practices put in place by this administration. We have to go back to reality-based methods.

creativelcro November 5, 2008 - 7:30am

... and I wholeheartedly share it - don't make the mistake to fall back into reflexive American exceptionalism.

Being German of non-Turkish decent I don't find the idea of German chancellor with Turkish roots outlandish at all. For instance the Green party that has been sharing power until the last election is now headed by Cem Özdemir.

While there are ethnic tension and integration is not happening as seamlessly as in traditionally immigration countries it is anything but a black and white picture. It should also be noted that one of former chancellor Kohl's sons (Perter Kohl) is married to a Turkish woman. Any off-spring of this union will by default be very well connected.

quax November 5, 2008 - 10:51am

we out in the rest of the world are not celebrating America *leading the way*, we're celebrating America *getting back with the program* - Ujjal Dosanjh was the 33rd premiere of BC.

But you better believe that's still cause for pride and celebration.


"The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential."

- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Escher Sketch November 5, 2008 - 12:40pm

about something: I am in no way slipping into American exceptionalism. That idea needs to be buried when it comes to our actions in outside of the world, but I'll be damned if I am willing to give up on the idea inside America where anyone can do anything they want. Sure, it's idealistic, but hey, I'm ok with that.

“Is not our first thought to go on the road? The road is our source, our vault of treasures, our wealth. Only on the road does the ‘traveller’ feel like himself, at home.”
Ryszard Kapuscinski

Sean Paul Kelley November 5, 2008 - 9:35pm

I agree with quax on the dangers of American exceptionalism. Given the way racism has been coded into the DNA of American society, the election of Obama is a great step. However, 2 issues:
1) the "see, this proves that there's no racism" may hurt as well as help progress towards a fully equal society; and
2) you know, the absence of women in leadership roles is a big symptom of problems of equality. While I share your preference for a progressive man over a Margaret Thatcher, that was never the issue in this campaign. I'm not sure that "a big smile" is the proper response to commenting on the fact that unlike a lot of countries in this world, ranging from the advanced Scandinavian countries to places like India and Indonesia, the U.S. has never had a female chief executive. Here we have American exceptionalism in a bad way.

nihil obstet November 5, 2008 - 12:08pm

It's hard to understand why voters under 30 wanted to swap college funding for military conscription or being part of a low wage labor camp.

this policy is the tinder for future wars.

mrmx November 5, 2008 - 4:31pm

It looks like the big difference in voting for Obama was being white, except, to a degree, for the young. If we isolate the whites, it looks like this:

Age by race
Category Obama McCain % Total
White 18-29 54 44 11
White 30-44 41 57 20
White 45-64 42 56 30
White 65+ 40 58 13

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26843704

In other words, the Younguns tend to vote Obama, and the other generations are about the same - the variations are well within the margin of error. Gen X as a whole did break a bit more for Obama than boomers, who in turn did more so than the seniors, but that appears to be an artifact of the racial composition of the generations.

mbento November 5, 2008 - 9:30pm

One day we might even elect a gay or an atheist to the office.

I find the former more likely than the latter, myself.

Petronius November 6, 2008 - 2:31am

both of those milestones could be long behind us.


"The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential."

- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Escher Sketch November 6, 2008 - 7:19am

But, for as long as I've been aware, discussion of a candidate's "Christianity" has been always a major talking point. The major exception that comes to mind was Nixon, who, while nominally Quaker, did not reflect the values of the Quaker community at large.

But that was when the Republicans were a lot more liberal. In particular, today, this would kill any chance of a Nixon presidency:

The former president noted that he had given up his childhood beliefs in such things as the inerrancy and infallibility of the Bible but still believed that God is the Creator and First Cause and that Jesus is the Son of God--but not in the physical sense of the term.

But Nixon had been examined by Billy Graham and found not wanting in the religion department, so he got the job.

Petronius November 6, 2008 - 10:28am

On his 90th birthday, preacher prays for Obama, Franklin Graham says

AP, November 7

CHARLOTTE, N.C. - Billy Graham's work as a pastor to presidents is coming to an end, but he is praying for Barack Obama as the nation's next leader begins his work, Graham's son said Friday on the aging evangelist's 90th birthday.

Franklin Graham said in an interview that his father's mind remains sharp even as his body continues to fail. But the preacher who has counseled every president beginning with Eisenhower is not in line to mentor Obama.

"My father feels like his time and day for that is over," Franklin Graham said. "But he would certainly like to meet (Obama) and pray with him."


Whatever are we to do?
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Raja November 10, 2008 - 8:07pm

It's hardly a stretch to imagine that any number of officeholders were cynically devout or quietly atheist. Vis-a-vis homosexuality there's speculation about Buchannon and, more recently, Lincoln.

I suspect that a significant fraction of the pro-christian stuff is still hangover from the anti-communist era. "Under god" was supposedly added to the Pledge of Allegiance because Russian communism was atheist.

NateTG November 6, 2008 - 10:53am

Analysis shatters exit-polling myth, but shows black voters were vital

CNBC

I did inhale.

Don November 7, 2008 - 8:52am

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