"A Great Christian Nation"


If we're such a great Christian nation then why aren't we doing something about this? Why have we allied ourself with a nation and give them critical nuclear technology that would commit atrocities like those that the Spanish did against the Jews in 1492? (I don't see the Iranians forcing Jews or Armenian Christians to convert.)

Just asking, is all.

/Irony Off.


Sean Paul Kelley October 13, 2008 - 6:11am
( categories: Asia: South-West )

Telegraph

Hanging for the men, life in prison for the women

Tina October 13, 2008 - 6:44am

planet should be guaranteed freedom of and from religion if they so choose.

“Is not our first thought to go on the road? The road is our source, our vault of treasures, our wealth. Only on the road does the ‘traveller’ feel like himself, at home.”
Ryszard Kapuscinski

Sean Paul Kelley October 13, 2008 - 7:02am

(before Tina beat me to the first part) that in addition to killing them for turning away from Islam (forget the irony of 'turning away' from a Faith they may not have taken on in the first place)...'apostasy', the Persian Press will likely have little, if anything, about it...partly from it happening to a non-Islamic minority, partly from likely influence/persuasion against publishing news placing the government in a specific unflattering light.

I'm definitely with you, S-P...freedom "of and from religion" should be the right of every person

-5.75,-4.05
"God gives men a brain and a penis, and only enough blood to run one at a time." -- Robin Williams

justadood October 13, 2008 - 9:40am

by one of Australias leading on line Catholic journals

graham October 13, 2008 - 6:48am

...should not ally themselves with any nation riven by internal religious conflict targeting Christians? I tend to think that there's any number of external observers that would ask what so privileges the anti-Christian violence here that it's worthy of particular note while much, much larger instances of religious violence involving other sects as well as inter-caste and political violence go unremarked. We need to be sensitive to that quite understandable impulse.

Moreover, how is the nuclear issue particularly relevant to anti-Christian violence - how is it that we get from aid to a civil nuclear power program to anything that's going to support this type of campaign? Me, personally, I'd argue pretty strongly that a more developed civil nuclear program is more likely to help than to hurt here.

“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.” ~ Sir Ernest Benn

JustPlainDave October 13, 2008 - 11:34am

devoted to their particular religion. I'd argue that raising the level of prosperity within a country makes most fade away into the woodwork. Confine the small number that remain to programes aimed at correcting cult, worshipper's beliefs and the numbers become very, very small.

Like like JustPlainDave, I fail to see the connection between radicalism and choices countries make about nuclear technology.

canuck October 13, 2008 - 11:51am

or dire environmental conditions and a good portion of the people turn to religion and dogma.
Seems there where and still are episodes in Russia with the orthodox and other denominations.
When all else fails and despair strikes, religion seems the only way and humanism takes a dive.
The human psyche has it

Jelco Cathlon October 13, 2008 - 12:09pm

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Note that the very first line of the very first amendment to the US Constitution bans the establishment of a state religion. The Framers ranked freedom FROM religion as the most urgent, most vital addition to their new Constitution. Why? Because the Framers studied history, and history revealed beyond doubt that when any religion is allowed to make itself the "official" one, then all other freedoms are inevitably doomed.

The Framers concluded that the only way to prevent religious strife in their new country was to ban the establishment of any state religion. They knew damn well that without freedom FROM religion, none of the other freedoms could survive.

That is why fundamentalist theocrats like Sarah Palin are so dangerous. Tirelessly they seek to weaken the very first line of the very first Amendment. Through trickery and deceit they seek to impose their religious beliefs on all other Americans, gradually establishing a national religion in America. They realize that the process of subverting the First Amendment takes time, but they are patient. They whittle and chip a little here and there, softening the edges of the Constitution's ban on established religion. The realize that if they can codify in law all the goals of their religion within the framework of our secular government, then they will have achieved a de facto national religion.

The genius of the First Amendment is that it got the priorities exactly right. Only by first guaranteeing freedom FROM religion can a society hope to avoid the bloodshed and oppression suffered by people in Europe and the Middle East over thousands of years of religious strife. It does not take a historian to see the problems created when religions get their way. If we wish to avoid the incessant, eternal bloodshed of religious strife, then we must always thwart the wishes of our nation's tragic collection of theocratic would-be rulers like Sarah Palin.

Good times for Smiley! :-D

Jimbo92107 October 13, 2008 - 1:13pm

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