Obama Clinches



It's over says the WaPo and tonight's Nelson Report:

SUMMARY: bulletins flew fast and furious all day, with Obama designated the winner of enough Democratic National Convention delegates to be declared the nominee over Clinton...as long as he gets 30% of tonight's 2 primaries...Montana and S. Dakota (he will).

Clinton agrees, campaign staff has been told to stop working, no more pay coming...and in a New York Congressional Delegation conference call she says she would "consider" the VP slot...and will do "whatever it takes" to help Obama and the Dems win in Nov.

Is this her way of saying "make me Veep and I will fight for you?" Nobody knows...but she will never have more leverage than now. She knows it. Obama knows it. Democratic leaders know it.

She will never have more risk than now, either. Without her full help, it will look like Reagan purposefully shafting Ford in 1976. And her Campaign has left a lot of Dems unhappy with her, and especially with Bill...she needs to mend fences.

DEMOCRATS...suddenly it was all over...last-minute Super Delegate endorsements (carefully orchestrated by Obama Campaign and Dem adults) tipped the balance against Clinton, and she agreed.

The AP made the "announcement", based on the assumption that Obama will get a minimum of 30% in tonights last two Democratic primaries...something considered a mortal lock, even in these two overwhelmingly Republican states, Montana and S. Dakota.

The Clinton Campaign immediately suspended all operations (and reportedly all paychecks) pending further instructions.

So...what's next?

And as noted above, in a telephone conference call with colleagues in the New York Congressional Delegation Sen. Clinton said "I am open to it", if offered the Vice President's slot by Obama.

That came in response to Rep. Nydia Vasques' warning that without her help, Obama and the Dems would lose the Hispanic vote to McCain and the Republicans...a dubious argument given Republican treatment of immigrants, perhaps, but certainly not a risk the Dems dismiss out of hand.

And her answer put into context the question both Obama and the Democratic leadership has been asking for weeks...WILL Bill and Hillary work whole-heartedly, work all-out for an Obama victory if she is NOT given what she wants?

So...what does she want? Observers agree she may not yet be sure. For what it's worth, we know what WE'd offer: the first vacancy on the Supreme Court...a lifetime of maximum influence on nearly every issue dear to her.

Not the VP? We don't believe any but a tiny minority of "white women" supporters will carry out their threat to vote for McCain, they are so angry at Obama....unless Hillary reneges on her promise today.

First, most comments show her angry supporters are mainly outraged at "the media"; and anyhow, if you are Obama and his advisors, you look at Clinton's built-in 35% to 45% negatives and ask what she brings to the ticket which compensates for that?

Another nasty thought...there are also those who say if you are Clinton, the only reason you'd want the VP slot is because you think Obama will lose, so by fighting the good fight this year, you are nicely positioned to run against McCain in 2012.

Of course this didn't work for John Edwards, but then he didn't run a good campaign, either. And...to be brutally frank, to gain the benefit of fighting the good but losing fight, she doesn't need to the VP perch.

Final nasty thought...and this is serious...since last year, Democratic insiders have asked themselves "my god, can we really handle Bill Clinton back in the White House as 'first spouse'?"

No one...no one...has fallen so fast, and so low, from a position of such strength, and respect, than the former president in the past year. Again and again, he has been a detriment and a distraction to his wife, and demonstrated that he is basically beyond control...the only thing which has worked is to keep him in places like Milbank, S. Dakota (yesterday's assignment) and hope for the best.

A "preview" of the "gift" Clinton would be to the Republicans? See the current Vanity Fair has a Scott Purdum article which caused Bill to have yet another red-faced public stroke the other day...and Purdum didn't dip more than a toe into the personal life scandals just waiting to break on Clinton, due to his social life.

Do Obama and the Democrats really want all that raked-up again? Perhaps more substantively, does anyone, including Hillary, really want to see the Clinton Foundation's foreign donor list scrutinized by the Republican National Committee attack squads, and the media?

Do you think Obama hasn't been worried about this? The sum of his deliberations will likely come soon, then Hillary must decide what's really best for her.

I happen to think Hillary would be great for the Supreme Court.


Sean Paul Kelley June 3, 2008 - 8:41pm
( categories: Analysis | USA: Campaign 2008 )

I agree that's a better choice for her than VP.

geoduck June 3, 2008 - 8:49pm

We have some scores to settle. Sorry, laws to enforce.

The purpose of the Justice system is deterrence, punishment and protection.

I'll go for some punishment.

Synoia June 4, 2008 - 12:29pm

How about an Executive Order removing the gag order for Sibel Edmonds?

Obama has an opportunity to clean up the mess left by Bush/Clinton/Bush?Reagan by simply opening to public view the dirt that's been swept under the rug.

Will he make it happen? Can we really go forward if he doesn't?

Petronius June 4, 2008 - 12:39pm

Run for something, dammit.

http://mauberly.blogspot.com/

mauberly June 3, 2008 - 9:07pm

is the least of Obama's worries. I laughed earlier when I read Hillary hasn't been vetted enough for the VP slot.

Tina June 3, 2008 - 9:30pm

"She will never have more risk than now, either. Without her full help, it will look like Reagan purposefully shafting Ford in 1976. And her Campaign has left a lot of Dems unhappy with her, and especially with Bill...she needs to mend fences."

Sometimes Nelson ain't too bright.

Ian Welsh June 3, 2008 - 9:33pm

Cool, we can start preparing ourselves for a McCain Presidency.

Since Reconstruction there have only been three African-American Governors (Wilder, Patrick & Patterson), three African-American Senators ( Brooke, Mosley-Brown & Obama ) and only 35 of 6667 elections in white majority US House districts have provided black winners since l966, and most of those were in unusually liberal districts.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives. John Stuart Mill

Don Quijote June 3, 2008 - 9:41pm

Obama will beat McCain. Handily.

Even in some southern states.

I did inhale.

Don June 3, 2008 - 10:08pm

Let's have a few fun bets and the proceedings will go to the Agonist :)

creativelcro June 3, 2008 - 10:13pm

If the economy continues to crater and the war(s) drag on, yes, Obama stands a very good chance of winning, possibly even in a landslide. But the one thing BushCo knows how to do is tilt elections, McCain has the corporate media firmly on his side, and a lot of people in this country will not vote a black man into the Oval Office under any circumstances. In short, making predictions this far out is a fool's game. Hell, we haven't even made it to the convention yet, and until I hear Hillary Clinton actually say "I concede", I'm not counting her out. (I say this as someone who doesn't particularly like either of the Dem candidates.)

geoduck June 4, 2008 - 2:14am

or the other guy for saying he can't?

I didn't predict he'd win today. I predicted he'd win in January. And I still think he'll win. It didn't happen like I expected, but it is happening. Despite bush's delusions, he isn't god and his ass can and will get kicked. The American people are sick and goddamned tired of this bunch. In one race after another Republicans are being voted out of office, some in tradionally conservative Republican-leaning states. I look for that trend to continue.

For the record, I am not all that crazy about Obama and I think whoever wins will get a mountain of shit dumped on them.

He may not be the best qualified person to be president but he is what we'll get.

I did inhale.

Don June 4, 2008 - 8:54am

My bet - The first time McCain and Obama appear on a stage together, Obama leads by no less than 5% for the remainder of the campaign.

BuddhaSixFour June 4, 2008 - 10:51am

Assuming the the economy continues to putter along, and that there are no disasters in Iraq (news flashes talking about hundreds of dead Americans in a single incident) and Shrub does not start a new war between now and November, I expect that Obama will win New England minus New Hampshire, New York, Illinois, Washington and Oregon.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives. John Stuart Mill

Don Quijote June 4, 2008 - 5:50am

I'll take that bet (for charity).



Turn back to the Constitution - and
READ it.

Rick June 4, 2008 - 10:48am

because the Republican knife-fighters have long known that their only hope in November will be a sufficiently large shoe-drop in October; they'll have been trying to find one for a long time now - or a communications strategy to turn something minor into one.

Without it they're going to have to spit out their bacon-wrapped oysters and wander the wastelands for years with their begging-bowls out.


"The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential."

- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Escher Sketch June 4, 2008 - 12:05pm

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#val=MT
scroll for the county map

yes it is from Feb, but check out how few voted in the counties

Tina June 3, 2008 - 9:45pm

Maybe it should, but her at the Supreme Court doesn't register with me. Wouldn't Sec. of State be better? She could run for Gov. of NY afterwards, and later be nominated as a Justice.

Nominay June 3, 2008 - 10:28pm

How about starting with releasing all of the documents from Cheney's 2001 Energy Task Force meeting?

We can go year by year through the Bush atrocities and start demanding disclosure.

Petronius June 3, 2008 - 11:02pm

offering RESURRECTION to a country taken down the path of the Satanic Cheney/Bush reign of terror, torture, mendacity, and sheer bloodyminded evil. Can he overcome the history of those who came before him, carrying the same message of hope and redemption, and avoid the assassin's bullet? After all, this is America, and Colin Powell had those fears whenever the subject of running for national office arose.



“les Etats-unis, c’est le seul pays à être passé de la préhistoire à la décadence sans jamais connaitre la civilisation…”...Georges Clemenceau

barrisj redux June 4, 2008 - 12:07am

BARACK OBAMA: Sixteen months have passed since we first stood together on the steps of the Old State Capitol in Springfield, Illinois. Thousands of miles have been traveled; millions of voices have been heard.

And because of what you said, because you decided that change must come to Washington, because you believed that this year must be different than all the rest, because you chose to listen not to your doubts or your fears, but to your greatest hopes and highest aspirations, tonight we mark the end of one historic journey with the beginning of another, a journey…

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… a journey that will bring a new and better day to America.

Because of you, tonight I can stand here and say that I will be the Democratic nominee for the president of the United States of America.

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But I want to thank — I want to thank all those in Montana and South Dakota who stood up for change today. I want to thank every American who stood with us over the course of this campaign, through the good days and the bad, from the snows of Cedar Rapids to the sunshine of Sioux Falls.

And, tonight, I also want to thank the men and woman who took this journey with me as fellow candidates for president.

At this defining moment, at this defining moment for our nation, we should be proud that our party put forth one of the most talented, qualified field of individuals ever to run for office.

I have not just competed with them as rivals. I’ve learned from them as friends, as public servants, and as patriots who love America and are willing to work tirelessly to make this country better. They are leaders of this party and leaders that America will turn to for years to come.

And that is particularly true for the candidate who has traveled further on this journey than anyone else. Senator Hillary Clinton has made history in this campaign.

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She has made history not just because she’s a woman who has done what no woman has done before, but because she is a leader who inspires millions of Americans with her strength, her courage, and her commitment to the causes that brought us here tonight.

I congratulate her on her victory in South Dakota, and I congratulate her on the race that she has run throughout this contest.

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We’ve certainly had our differences over the last 16 months. But as someone who’s shared a stage with her many times, I can tell you that what gets Hillary Clinton up in the morning — even in the face of tough odds — is exactly what sent her and Bill Clinton to sign up for their first campaign in Texas all those years ago, what sent her to work at the Children’s Defense Fund and made her fight for health care as first lady, what led her to the United States Senate and fueled her barrier-breaking campaign for the presidency: an unyielding desire to improve the lives of ordinary Americans, no matter how difficult the fight may be.

And you can rest assured that when we finally win the battle for universal health care in this country — and we will win that fight — she will be central to that victory.

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When we transform our energy policy and lift our children out of poverty, it will be because she worked to help make it happen.

Our party and our country are better off because of her, and I am a better candidate for having had the honor to compete with Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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There are those who say that this primary has somehow left us weaker and more divided. Well, I say that, because of this primary, there are millions of Americans who have cast their ballot for the very first time.

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There are independents and Republicans who understand this election isn’t just about a change of party in Washington, but also about the need to change Washington.

There are young people, and African-Americans, and Hispanic- Americans, and women of all ages who have voted in numbers that have broken records and inspired a nation.

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All of you chose to support a candidate you believe in deeply. But at the end of the day, we aren’t the reason you came out and waited in lines that stretched block after block to make your voice heard. You didn’t do that…

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You didn’t do that because of me or Senator Clinton or anyone else. You did it because you know in your hearts that at this moment, a moment that will define a generation, we cannot afford to keep doing what we’ve been doing.

We owe our children a better future. We owe our country a better future. And for all those who dream of that future tonight, I say: Let us begin the work together. Let us unite in common effort to chart a new course for America.

In just a few short months, the Republican Party will arrive in St. Paul with a very different agenda. They will come here to nominate John McCain, a man who has served this country heroically.

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I honor, we honor the service of John McCain, and I respect his many accomplishments, even if he chooses to deny mine.

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My differences with him — my differences with him are not personal. They are with the policies he has proposed in this campaign, because while John McCain can legitimately tout moments of independence from his party in the past, such independence has not been the hallmark of his presidential campaign.

It’s not change when John McCain decided to stand with George Bush 95 percent of the time, as he did in the Senate last year.

It’s not change when he offers four more years of Bush economic policies that have failed to create well-paying jobs, or insure our workers, or help Americans afford the skyrocketing cost of college, policies that have lowered the real incomes of the average American family, widened the gap between Wall Street and Main Street, and left our children with a mountain of debt.

It’s not change when he promises to continue a policy in Iraq that asks everything of our brave men and women in uniform and nothing of Iraqi politicians, a policy where all we look for are reasons to stay in Iraq, while we spend billions of dollars a month on a war that isn’t making the American people any safer.

So I’ll say this: There are many words to describe John McCain’s attempt to pass off his embrace of George Bush’s policies as bipartisan and new, but “change” is not one of them.

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“Change” is not one of them, because change is a foreign policy that doesn’t begin and end with a war that should’ve never been authorized and never been waged.

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I won’t stand here and pretend that there are many good options left in Iraq, but what’s not an option is leaving our troops in that country for the next hundred years, especially at a time when our military is overstretched, our nation is isolated, and nearly every other threat to America is being ignored.

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We must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in, but we — but start leaving we must.

It’s time for Iraqis to take responsibility for their future. It’s time to rebuild our military and give our veterans the care and the benefits they deserve when they come home.

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It’s time to refocus our efforts on Al Qaida’s leadership and Afghanistan, and rally the world against the common threats of the 21st century: terrorism and nuclear weapons; climate change and poverty; genocide and disease. That’s what change is.

Change, Minnesota, is realizing that meeting today’s threats requires not just our firepower, but the power of our diplomacy: tough, direct diplomacy, where the president of the United States isn’t afraid to let any petty dictator know where America stands and what we stand for.

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We must once again have the courage and the conviction to lead the free world. That is the legacy of Roosevelt and Truman and Kennedy. That’s what the American people demand. That’s what change is.

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Change is building an economy that rewards not just wealth, but the work and the workers who created it. It’s understanding that the struggles facing working families can’t be solved by spending billions of dollars on more tax breaks for big corporations and wealthy CEOs, but by giving a middle-class tax break to those who need it, and investing in our crumbling infrastructure, and transforming how we use energy, and improving our schools, and renewing our commitment to science and innovation.

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It’s understanding that fiscal responsibility and shared prosperity can go hand-in-hand, as they did when Bill Clinton was president.

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John McCain has spent a lot of time talking about trips to Iraq in the last few weeks, but maybe if he spent some time taking trips to the cities and towns that have been hardest hit by this economy — cities in Michigan, and Ohio, and right here in Minnesota — he’d understand the kind of change that people are looking for.

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Maybe if he went to Iowa and met the student who works the night shift after a full day of class and still can’t pay the medical bills for a sister who’s ill, he’d understand she can’t afford four more years of a health care plan that only takes care of the healthy and the wealthy.

She needs us to pass health care right now, a plan that guarantees insurance to every American who wants it and brings down premiums for every family who needs it. That’s the change we need, Minnesota.

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Maybe if John McCain went to Pennsylvania and he met the man who lost his job, but can’t even afford the gas to drive around and look for a new one, he’d understand we can’t afford four more years of our addiction to oil from dictators.

That man needs us to pass an energy policy that works with automakers to raise fuel standards, and makes corporations pay for their pollution, and oil companies invest their record profits in a clean energy future, an energy policy that will create millions of new jobs that pay well and can’t be outsourced. That’s the change we need, Minnesota.

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And maybe if John McCain spent some time in the schools of South Carolina or St. Paul, Minnesota, or where he spoke tonight in New Orleans, Louisiana, he’d understand that we can’t afford to leave the money behind for No Child Left Behind; that we owe it to our children to invest in early-childhood education; and recruit an army of new teachers and give them better pay and more support; and finally decide that, in this global economy, the chance to get a college education should not be a privilege for the few, but a birthright of every American.

That’s the change we need in America. That’s why I’m running for president of the United States.

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Now, the other side will come here in September and offer a very different set of policies and positions, and that is a good thing. That is a debate I look forward to.

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It is a debate that the American people deserve on the issues that will help determine the future of this country and the future for our children.

But what you don’t deserve is another election that’s governed by fear, and innuendo, and division. What you won’t hear from this campaign or this party is the kind of politics that uses religion as a wedge and patriotism as a bludgeon…

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What you won’t see from this campaign or this party is a politics that sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge, but enemies to polarize, because we may call ourselves Democrats and Republicans, but we are Americans first. We are always Americans first.

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Despite what the good senator from Arizona may have said tonight, I’ve seen people of differing views and opinions find common cause many times during my two decades in public life, and I’ve brought many together myself.

I’ve walked arm-in-arm with community leaders on the south side of Chicago and watched tensions fade as black, white, and Latino fought together for good jobs and good schools.

I’ve sat across the table from law enforcement officials and civil rights advocates to reform a criminal justice system that sent 13 innocent people to death row.

I’ve worked with friends in the other party to provide more children with health insurance and more working families with a tax break, to curb the spread of nuclear weapons and ensure that the American people know where their tax dollars are being spent, and reduce the influence of lobbyists who have all too often set the agenda in Washington.

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In our country, I have found that this cooperation happens not because we agree on everything, but because, behind all the false labels and false divisions and categories that define us, beyond all the petty bickering and point-scoring in Washington, Americans are a decent, generous, compassionate people, united by common challenges and common hopes.

And every so often, there are moments which call on that fundamental goodness to make this country great again.

So it was for that band of patriots who declared in a Philadelphia hall the formation of a more perfect union, and for all those who gave on the fields of Gettysburg and Antietam their last full measure of devotion to save that same union.

So it was for the greatest generation that conquered fear itself, and liberated a continent from tyranny, and made this country home to untold opportunity and prosperity.

So it was for the workers who stood out on the picket lines, the women who shattered glass ceilings, the children who braved a Selma bridge for freedom’s cause.

So it has been for every generation that faced down the greatest challenges and the most improbable odds to leave their children a world that’s better and kinder and more just.

And so it must be for us.

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America, this is our moment. This is our time, our time to turn the page on the policies of the past…

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… our time to bring new energy and new ideas to the challenges we face, our time to offer a new direction for this country that we love.

The journey will be difficult. The road will be long. I face this challenge — I face this challenge with profound humility and knowledge of my own limitations, but I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people.

Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that, generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless…

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… this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal…

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… this was the moment when we ended a war, and secured our nation, and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth.

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This was the moment, this was the time when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves and our highest ideals.

Thank you, Minnesota. God bless you, and may God bless the United States of America.

Tina June 4, 2008 - 1:08am

The cost of Clinton's narcissism

canuck June 4, 2008 - 6:54am

Clinton in fact was the one to beat from the very beginning. Everyone knew it and said as much. Once Obama made a significant challenge to that ubiquitous conventional wisdom the Clinton campaign did what any other campaign would do; try to maintain a perception that they were still the ones to beat. It served their interests. Its helpful to a campaign to be seen as the frontrunner.

Suddenly everyone was Sigmund of Freud.

Berating Hillary has become a familiar habit. It attracted eyeballs. Still does. Amazing phenomenon.

ww June 4, 2008 - 7:14am

The surest way for Clinton to "redeem" herself in the public eye is to become a team player and support Obama instead of be seen "angling" for a post in his Administration. She probably won't adopt this path, and it would be demeaning, but it would strengthen her overall position for some substantive position instead of a token one.

But I also think Obama is going to need big time allies in Congress and she could really do more good there than anywhere else. As an Edward's supporter, my constant worry was the same as Robert Redford's in "The Candidate". He wins and has to ask "Now what?".

I do not believe Obama is a real progressive and therefore I do not expect anything more than incremental adjustment to anything when all the hype dies down. He is going to run for the middle, not the outside. McCain is going to force him to even if he bumbles along as is. Obama will pick iconic political fights because he has to as leader of a "movement", but he is not going to win without substantial allies. Hillary (if she swallows her pride) can do excellent things in that department.

dude June 4, 2008 - 7:31am

... Hillary could help out her image with Obama supporters by being seen as a 'team player'. But I don't think it will be allowed.

Already she is being called an extortionist and blackmailer based on little more, it seems, than the fact that she hasn't bowed before a candidate who broke an all time record for how few delegates were gained while becoming the party nominee for Prezit. (which isn't official, btw)

Obama is the weakest candidate ever by that standard. Yet somehow Clinton will be seen as angling just for keeping him honest.

ww June 4, 2008 - 7:42am

I should clarify: Obama's iconic fights are not campaign fights. They are the fights of governing to which I refer. After the honeymoon period and a new crop of freshmen Dems come to Washington, he is the most vulnerable to failing his "movement mandate" without strong ushers and effective players like Clinton.

dude June 4, 2008 - 7:35am

Here.

For those that take such a strong stance on Obama or Clinton while totally trashing the other: substantively, there's very little difference between their political views. (She's slightly more conservative.)

I did inhale.

Don June 4, 2008 - 9:14am

While neither an Obama nor Clinton supporter, I just love that Clinton once again hosed the Associated Press and everyone who said she'd concede last night. There appears to be a lot of commentary that she was somehow ungracious in not conceding. But it is a canny move for her to clam up about her intentions until the convention. If, in the unlikely event that Obama somehow crashed and burned with some as-yet undisclosed scandal, Clinton would have an excellent claim to the nomination at the convention. Now's the time for her to get chummy with Obama supporters--and for Obama to get chummy with Clinton supporters.

Somewhat off-topic, but not really: Did any of you see McCain's speech? The pundits panned its theatrics, and I agree it was unwise to pick a fight on a night he couldn't win. But if you watch him, there's more to it. Even after getting the nomination, and all the lovely rest that comes with it, McCain looked unhealthy, seemed confused, and didn't make sense as he stumbled through several ponderous and discordant notes throughout his poorly-written speech. He even used the phrase, "forward, not backwards," reminiscent of the campaign speech by one of the aliens in the Simpsons--"upwards, not downwards, forward, not backwards, and twirling, always twirling . . . " Like the alien, McCain got applause for that awful speechwriting cliche.

There's been speculation here and elsewhere that Obama would be an assassination target--something that appears to come with the territory for all Democratic presidential candidates, especially if your name is Kennedy--and I certainly hope that will never be the case. But given the way McCain looks and acts, I wouldn't be surprised if he had a stroke or heart attack, and soon. I'm not really sure he is in good enough shape for a general election.

Moreover, as a candidate he has massive problems beyond his support for the war in Iraq and the Bush administration's other policies. After winning the nomination, most candidates tack to the center, but McCain has been taking his campaign further and further to the right. I think the campaign is looking at internal poll numbers and don't like what they see among the extreme right wing conservatives: They don't trust McCain, don't like him, and may not vote for him.

Jonathryn June 4, 2008 - 9:17am

"While neither an Obama nor Clinton supporter, I just love that Clinton once again hosed the Associated Press and everyone who said she'd concede last night. There appears to be a lot of commentary that she was somehow ungracious in not conceding. But it is a canny move for her to clam up about her intentions until the convention."

Sure, it is canny and shrewd. And it is also completely filled with self-interest, one of her biggest negatives and there it is again. She wants to unite the party? So, why doesn't she? Because it does not suit her own personal interests.

Zman1527 June 4, 2008 - 10:15am

And nobody running for president, or dogcatcher, isn't going to be looking out for their own personal interests. It would make sense for her to keep her promise--to take this right into the convention--for practical purposes not only for herself, but also the party, and for her supporters. If Obama completely implodes, an unlikely possibility, she'd be a great candidate to get behind. Think of it this way--if McCain got caught on video with a prostitute the day before the GOP convention, I don't think any of the other contenders could credibly say they have as much support as McCain had.

This also has the benefit of making the Democratic convention much more dramatic. I'd wager that much more people will be watching the coverage than the GOP convention, which will have the same qualities and be about as persuasive as a 1950s-era Pat Boone singalong Chevy commercial.

It's also fair to point out that the press mauled Clinton relentlessly. How in the world did it become appropriate on a supposedly cable "news" program to call Hillary Clinton, a candidate for the highest office in the United States, and her supporters, "vaginal Americans?" Then there was the narrative, the Procrustes Bed by which all news coverage was measured. If the candidates did something that didn't fit "the narrative," it was completely ignored, dismissed, truncated, or otherwise distorted to fit "the narrative." Ever wonder why the press never covered Clinton's detailed and convincing policy discussions with ordinary voters at town hall style meetings? Sniff sniff . . . smells to a TV news "journalist" like honest work, and why would you want to do that when you've already selected the candidate you and your corporate bosses want? Another good example is this: Did anyone sense the irony or appreciate the ridiculousness of having well-coiffed big-hair news "anchors" commenting on John Edwards's $250 haircut? I mean, how much does NBC, CNN, ABC, FOX, and CBS spend on hair and makeup budgets for Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer and Brian Williams and Joe Scarborough to go on TV and ridicule a public figure for their hair?

At any rate, I wish the supporters of both candidates would stop their bickering. It would be unconscionably unclassy for Obama supporters to continue denigrating Clinton after their candidate won. And it would be unconscionably unclassy for Clinton supporters to vote for McCain or stay home. If you support Obama, stop offending them and giving them reasons to do so.

Jonathryn June 4, 2008 - 11:00am

"At any rate, I wish the supporters of both candidates would stop their bickering. It would be unconscionably unclassy for Obama supporters to continue denigrating Clinton after their candidate won."

He did? Could you please inform Senator Clinton? Thanks.

PS: there is nothing of value in keeping this going until the convention. Oops, I should say, nothing of value in it for the Democratic party.

Zman1527 June 4, 2008 - 11:17am

will those conservatives vote for?

"Lord! What Fools these Mortals be!"

Doug Richardson June 4, 2008 - 6:57pm

NRO

Tuesday, June 03, 2008

My Old Party [William J. Bennett]

This is an astounding moment in American politics. You cannot credibly say the Clintons are a political dynasty the way, say, the Kennedys or Bushs are. But I think one has to say the Clinton rule of the Democratic party has been dynastic. Bill Clinton is the only Democrat to have served two terms as president in two generations, the only Democrat to twice beat Republican nominees for president and his wife is a two term U.S. senator who will likely be in the Senate for years to come. Bill Clinton has been rated one of — if not THE — most popular person in the world, and yet Clinton rule in American politics ends tonight. Whatever it was the Republicans and so many independents did not like about the Clintons, we’ve learned the Democrats have had enough as well.

And thus the Democratic party is about to nominate a far left candidate in the tradition of George McGovern, albeit without McGovern’s military and political record. The Democratic party is about to nominate a far-left candidate in the tradition of Michael Dukakis, albeit without Dukakis’s executive experience as governor. The Democratic party is about to nominate a far left candidate in the tradition of John Kerry, albeit without Kerry’s record of years of service in the Senate. The Democratic party is about to nominate an unvetted candidate in the tradition of Jimmy Carter, albeit without Jimmy Carter’s religious integrity as he spoke about it in 1976. Questions about all these attributes (from foreign policy expertise to executive experience to senatorial experience to judgment about foreign leaders to the instructors he has had in his cultural values) surround Barack Obama. And the Democratic party has chosen him.

Tina June 4, 2008 - 9:30am

but then what do you expect from that bunch?

http://www.politicalcompass.org/usprimaries2008

I did inhale.

Don June 4, 2008 - 9:35am

Obama is certainly not a far left candidate. This piece attempts to frame him as such and the meme prolly has a good chance of sticking. Perhaps we'll see strong moves to the right by Barack to counter this organized push once he's the official candidate.

ww June 4, 2008 - 9:39am

They will plaster pics everywhere of him with Wright, Farrakhan, Pfleger, Ayers..I'm not sure how they are going to fight back against it. It not only hits him as being radical but also hits at his judgment. I know some will say we have gotten past that, but I don't think it has even begun.

Tina June 4, 2008 - 9:50am

and use them to give new life to the label, by showing that what the other side calls "far left" is actually quite sensible a position that would benefit most people, when you remove the negative emotional baggage the other side has attached to it.

creativelcro June 4, 2008 - 12:54pm

they would use it against any candidate. It just shows how far rightward the right has pushed the body politic; can you imagine how they'd label a candidate like Hubert Humphrey these days? "Satanic Commie" might be the mildest meme.



Turn back to the Constitution - and
READ it.

Rick June 4, 2008 - 2:19pm

NRO? Bill Bennett?

So, did Hillary switch party affiliation Tina? This is where you go for support? Incredible.

Zman1527 June 4, 2008 - 10:09am

If you want to know what the other side is doing, planning and saying, you look. I don't need support, I have always said I would vote for Obama.

Tina June 4, 2008 - 10:15am

I am being treated with "extreme disrespect". LOL

Zman1527 June 4, 2008 - 1:13pm

:D

Tina June 4, 2008 - 5:09pm

Obama is moving right to Appalachia to begin his campaign from what I read. That is a movement to the right and an effort to shore-up more than mine safety.

dude June 4, 2008 - 9:47am

I think Obama is going to evoke John Kennedy's approach to politics. I am not a student of JFK's strategy and I don't think Obama will feel the need to pick a strong Southerner for a running mate; that said, I believe he "styles" his delivery very much at the level and language of Kennedy.

dude June 4, 2008 - 9:51am

HTML tags are our friends. Learn to use them. - ed.

Peceptive and unbiased article about Obama - ed.

Chances dim for climate-change legislation

Two bills that will end the United States.

Lasthorseman June 4, 2008 - 3:34pm

you're demented.

"Lord! What Fools these Mortals be!"

Doug Richardson June 4, 2008 - 7:13pm

the commentor pasted enormous URL's into his comment without so much as a reacharound, which blows the page width to hell. I edited them with tags and added the labels myself.



Turn back to the Constitution - and
READ it.

Rick June 4, 2008 - 9:38pm

- eom


"The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential."

- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Escher Sketch June 5, 2008 - 12:08am

corrected.

"Lord! What Fools these Mortals be!"

Doug Richardson June 6, 2008 - 10:40am

And he is going to get lots of them.

This morning on NPR they were interviewing a female Clinton Supporter from New Jersey who wasn't sure as to whom she would vote for in November, Obama or McCain.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives. John Stuart Mill

Don Quijote June 5, 2008 - 11:43pm

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