the young uneducated lean towards Obama?

unless, somehow, the Dems manage to nail McCain on his twists and turns.....

Bloomberg - ...``I'm more of an old-fashioned, blue-collar person,'' said Richard Dorsch, a 53-year-old paramedic fire chief from Chicago's Edison Park. ``I can't support him.''

Dorsch, who said his kids liken him to Archie Bunker, voted for Clinton in the primary, though he plans to support Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona if Obama wins the nomination.

``When he talks to you, it's like he's talking down to you,'' Dorsch said. ``He doesn't have the experience to talk like that.''

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I agree. I wonder why there've been no polls on how a ticket with both of them would do against McCain. Considering there were 3 times as many active in some of the Democrat primaries as in the Republican ones (except there were so many Repubs playing in the Democrat events), Dems could afford to lose a large percentage of voters to dismay over either candidate joining the other.

That brings out the funniest in you, Rick.
But I see we'll have to wait...:-)
-mole

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2.The Dems haven't punished the GOP enough, so you're going to reward the Republicans?}

I'm not defending Hillary on this but did find this:

Did Clinton Darken Obama's Skin?
March 5, 2008
Some Obama backers cry "racism." We find the accusation to be unsubstantiated.

Summary:

Obama supporters on the Internet are agitated over the apparent darkening of Obama's image in a Clinton attack ad.

Our video team took a look. Our conclusions:

* The Obama frames from the ad do appear darker than other video of Obama from the same event.

* However, the YouTube copy of the ad, on which the bloggers base their conclusions, is darker overall than other copies of the ad. We obtained a digital recording of the ad as it actually appeared on a Texas TV station, and it is lighter.

* Furthermore, our analysis of the Obama frames, using Photoshop, shows a fairly uniform darkening of the entire image including the backdrop. It is not just Obama's skin color that's affected.

* Also, nearly all the images in the ad are dark, including those of Hillary Clinton. And dark images are a common technique used in attack ads.

Others will speculate about the Clinton campaign's intentions and motives, as they already have. But without further evidence to the contrary, we see no reason to conclude that this is anything more than a standard attempt to make an attack ad appear sinister, rather than a special effort to exploit racial bias as some Obama supporters are saying.

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didn't they do the same thing with OJ on time magazine?

luminance would maybe shift when its uploaded to youtube, but i dont think the desaturation would occur like that. if those cool cats have the fresh digital version they ought to share it?
--
Hongpong.com

release it and the campaign deserves the hits if it was deliberate. I pretty much stayed away from the story because I don't know enough about
photo manipulation to make an assessment.

Well, maybe a little:

(h/t Cynic's Party).

If only. Competence is important; I want the toughest cleverest operator in there. That's why I like these weird caucus systems: I want someone who games them the best.

“The Playboy reader invites a female acquaintance in for a quiet discussion of Picasso, Nietzsche, jazz, sex.” - Hugh Hefner

"Tempest" is to "Teapot" as:

a) "Fish" is to "Iquana"
b) "Screen Door" is to "Submarine"
c) "Beating" is to "Dead Horse"

At least the Clinton campaign had the good sense not to release their first attempt at doctoring.

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:)

Of course Ralph Nader! Thou art truly sage in thy counsel O Lady of News Editing.

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I was looking for the Hillary/Antoinette pic and couldn't find it. Since their taxes are not due til April I don't think it is a good line of attack.

Hillary Clinton: the kind of person who likes to have her cake and yours, too.

or, ummm, "figuratively?"

from Wikipedia:

To wish to have one's cake and eat it too or simply have one's cake and eat it (sometimes eat one's cake and have it too) is to want more than one can handle or deserve, or to try to have two incompatible things. This is a popular English idiomatic proverb, or figure of speech.

The phrase's earliest recording is from 1546 as "wolde you bothe eate your cake, and have your cake?" (John Heywood's 'A dialogue Conteinyng the Nomber in Effect of All the Prouerbes in the Englishe Tongue') alluding to the impossibility of eating your cake and still having it afterwards; the modern version (where the clauses are reversed) is a corruption which was first signalled in 1812.

Paul Brians, Professor of English at Washington State University, points out that the original and only sensible version of this saying is “You can’t eat your cake and have it too,” meaning that if you eat your cake you won’t have it any more. People get confused because we use the expression “have some cake” to mean “eat some cake,” and they therefore misunderstand what “have” means in this expression.[1] Alternatively, people understand that "have" and "eat" represent a sequence of actions, so one can indeed "have" one's cake and then "eat" it. Consequently, the literal meaning of the reversed idiom doesn't match the metaphorical meaning.

Ergo, the snarky version reads: "I want to have my cake and yours, too" and implies that I'm a greedy bastich.

If I have to break it down into fewer, smaller words for ya Doug, just let me know. I'll be here all day.

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thanks ever so much.

Please take note of those little marks on either side of the word figuratively...they're called quotes. I used them because, like you, I was being a "bastich" and referring to the effects of too much cake on Herself's figure when viewed from the rear.

"Lord! What Fools these Mortals be!"

War forever, Bomb Bomb Iran, and his notorious temper should do it.

"...cunning, baffling, powerful."

effective today. Reported by the New York Times at 11:45 EST this morning.

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Why is Hillary in a suit at 3am ?

she always struck me as a flannel or fleece girl :)
I imagine the suit was to continue her image as ready to go from day one in office.

... jammies pants suit. From the Martha collection.

"...cunning, baffling, powerful."

but if you're living in the US, you're going to get one of them.

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