Neocon Pundits Booted From Time Magazine


Wow, Time Magazine is making more news today. Apparently Time management has requested that Charles Krauthammer and Bill Kristol take a hike. If you ask me, that's very good news. From the Observer:

Two conservative Time magazine columnists are on their way out the door: Neither William Kristol nor longtime contributor Charles Krauthammer will be on contract with the magazine starting next month. Mr. Krauthammer confirmed the news to Off the Record, and a spokeswoman for Time said Mr. Kristol’s contract would not be renewed.

It would be very good news if they weren't hiring human scum incarnate Ramesh Ponnuru:

And according to two sources familiar with the discussions, Time is in negotiations with National Review editor Ramesh Ponnuru to sign him to a contributor contract. Mr. Ponnuru, who in 2006 published The Party of Death: The Democrats, the Media, the Courts, and the Disregard for Human Life, has written twice for the magazine over the past month.

What's up with that?


Sean Paul Kelley December 19, 2007 - 3:43pm
( categories: Media Criticism | MSM Criticism )

Could it be? Could someone actually be holding these guys responsible for the damage they have done?

I would like to think so but it would be better if Time specifically mentioned this as the reason for firing these guys. It would also be much better if they weren't hiring Ponnuru. We'll just have to take what we can get.

Numerian December 19, 2007 - 4:04pm

IMHO he's far less dangerous; he's got far less polish, is too overtly partisan and has far more things easily perceived by the mainstream as damaging to his credibility hanging round his neck. For a pop-culture reference, a couple of Sarumans have been swapped for an Uruk-Hai.

Not unlikely he'll mess in his pants soon enough and be sent to the naughty corner.


"The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential."

- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Escher Sketch December 19, 2007 - 4:14pm
Tina December 19, 2007 - 5:36pm

is all I say!!!!

1."George Washington did not cross the Delaware for Capitalism," -Shmuley Boteach.
2.The Dems haven't punished the GOP enough, so you're going to reward the Republicans?

nymole December 20, 2007 - 10:18am

i have no doubt that wingnut welfare is well in force, and these two will land on their feet at some other publication of low repute for a high salary. lil billy still has his fox gig, no? still, it's good the see them on the outs with the publication of the low information voter.

being cynical, all i can say is that they are brand representatives, and the marketing people at time can sense the sea change. neocon bs isn't selling, time to replace it with DLC "unity" voices instead. in the long run, the effect is the same.

chicago dyke December 19, 2007 - 11:51pm

I don't see the replacing of two shills with one shill makes things better, in a substantive sense.

I suppose if the guy is less persuasive a writer, then something is gained, but the column space is just as wasted. Why couldn't they hire...you know...somebody who actually knows something about a topic and is correct at least half of the time?

Mr. Flibble December 20, 2007 - 4:18pm

...Joke Line pretending to be a librul I have to see this as cosmetic.

Gordon December 20, 2007 - 4:27pm

He's no more a librul than Victor Davisd Hanson. (sorry, I always think my typos make me look dumb. I hate to look dumb by mistake)

ww December 20, 2007 - 4:40pm

Dear Dad,
You know that I know that you are Santa Claus. I would be foolish not to know that... but Dad, where do you keep the reindeer?

Joaquin December 20, 2007 - 7:25pm

I would be lying to say I am surprised.

Huffington Post

Tina December 28, 2007 - 10:16pm

- eom


"The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential."

- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Escher Sketch December 28, 2007 - 10:24pm

NEW YORK (Reuters) - William Kristol, a prominent conservative pundit and magazine editor, has signed on as a columnist for The New York Times, a publication he has often sharply criticized, the newspaper announced on Saturday.

Kristol, 55, is the editor and co-founder of The Weekly Standard, a Washington political magazine with a strongly conservative viewpoint.

He regularly appears on Fox News, and served as Vice President Dan Quayle's chief of staff during the administration of President George H.W. Bush.

Kristol, a staunch supporter of the war in Iraq, will write his first weekly column for the January 7 issue, the Times said.

Just last year Kristol promoted the idea that the federal government prosecute the newspaper for disclosing details about its program tracking international financial transactions. Prior to that he wrote that the paper was "irredeemable," the Times noted in its announcement.
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adrena December 30, 2007 - 12:26am

I am appalled at the decision taken by the NY Times to bring on Bill Kristol as an op-ed columnist. As a life long reader and defender of the paper through good times and bad -- this last has pushed me over the edge.

I will no longer read the paper, in print or online, nor shall I click on links to any of the articles -- and call on others to do the same ... to walk with their feet and say enough. This decision makes a mockery of all that is good about journalism and journalistic integrity; and that a paper such as the NY Times feels that it is in the best interest of their readership to present the vitriol and bile written by Kristol is even more delusional.

In my view, this decision is sounding the death knell of the paper; and frankly given where the stock is, that is not far off. It is indeed a sad, sad day.

bluespeak December 30, 2007 - 11:17am

development, it is hardly out of character for the Times and certainly will not cause me to cancel my subscription. Having crack-pot conservative op-ed writers like A. M. Rosenthal and William Safire is a Times tradition. Those two middle east hawks used the op-ed page for decades to inveigh against any solution in the area that required Israeli compromise on anything. They both favored the invasion of Israels enemies early and often. Is Kristol much different?

I like the paper, warts and all, because it at least aspires to journalistic excellence in a way that few other papers or other main stream media outlets do these days. While I read the last two pages of the first section, I do so with the same grain of salt as when reading opinion pieces in the WSJ, which is generally biased to the right but also has great journalism.


“I despise ideologues masquerading as objective journalists.” - Bill O'Reilly, March 30, 2007

Mark December 30, 2007 - 6:14pm

That's how I read my local newspaper (Ottawa Citizen) ..... with a 'huge' grain of salt. One particular columnist (David Warren) I don't even bother with.

adrena December 30, 2007 - 6:36pm

where it seems the reporters and the opiners inhabit different worlds (and probably do, in lifestyle). As long as Kristol isn't made editor, it doesn't impact the content of the paper.



Turn back to the Constitution - and
READ it.

Rick December 31, 2007 - 8:53am

truly a must read :D

26. William Kristol

Charges: Bears the burlesque Cheshire grin of a sophist born with a large silver spoon jammed sideways in his mouth. A second generation neocon raised in the tradition of Straussian perception management and myth creation, Kristol is basically lying about everything -- always -- and he knows it. Whether at the helm of Rupert Murdoch's Weekly Standard, appearing on Murdoch's Fox News Channel, or co-founding the disastrous Project for a New American Century, Bill is arguably the most egregious media hawk of a generation. Seems to have suffered no ill impact to his career or prestige despite having been completely wrong about everything to do with Iraq and Iran, and actually laughs about it with obnoxious frequency.

Exhibit A: "First of all, whenever I hear anything described as a heartless assault on our children, I tend to think it's a good idea. I'm happy that the President's willing to do something bad for the kids."

Sentence: Corners of mouth torn apart by metal hook towing mules and face stomped by high-heeled elephants.

http://www.buffalobeast.com/122/50mostloathsome2007PF.html

Tina December 31, 2007 - 12:09pm

but call him "unwelcome" nonetheless...

He May Be Unwelcome, but We’ll Survive

New York Times, By Clark Hoyt, January 13

In 1972, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, the publisher of The New York Times, was looking for a conservative columnist for his left-leaning Op-Ed page.

At a charity dinner, he wound up sitting next to William Safire, the Nixon White House speechwriter who coined Spiro Agnew’s famous denunciation of the press as “nattering nabobs of negativism.” They soon had a deal.

But, as described in “The Trust,” the authoritative history of the family that has controlled The Times for more than a century, Sulzberger neglected to involve John Oakes, his cousin and the editor of the editorial page, in the decision. Oakes was appalled when he heard about the negotiations, and not realizing it was too late, offered alternatives. How about Irving Kristol, he suggested.

More than 35 years later, Sulzberger’s son, Arthur Jr. — this time in full partnership with his editorial page editor, Andrew Rosenthal — has hired another conservative columnist for their left-leaning Op-Ed page: Irving Kristol’s son, William.

The choice of Safire, who retired in 2005, set off a storm of protest. “The Times could have saved themselves about 50 grand a year if they just sent an office boy over to the White House to pick up the press releases,” fumed Nicholas von Hoffman of The Washington Post. Kristol’s appointment has not fared any better. “Pretty much the worst idea ever,” grumped Gawker, the New York media gossip Web site.


"Vanity, Vanity, all is Vanity."

Raja January 14, 2008 - 12:50am

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