Thirteen Years Ago . . .


. . . I was leaving the United States for a teaching job in South Korea. Shortly before I left a bridge over the Han River in downtown Seoul collapsed during rush hour, killing many people. Shortly after I arrived a building collapsed, luckily at night. Then a huge gas explosion occurred in Taegu. Then a 5-story shopping mall collapsed in daylight killing hundreds and trapping more, many of whom subsequently died.

Buildings collapse, bridges fall down and gas leaks explode. That's the nature of civilization.

But they don't all happen within a few years of each other unless a nation's system of regulations are broken and its infrastructure ignored.

Same as New Orleans could have been prevented, same as this recent tragedy in Minneapolis and same with the poison that has found its way into our food supply. (And don't forget about that steam pipe in NYC a while back, too!)

When you elect people who believe government is the problem, who believe government is bad, you get bad government.TM

I never thought I would live to see such preventable, embarrassing tragedies occur in my home country. It always happened over there, not to us.


Sean Paul Kelley August 2, 2007 - 2:32pm
( categories: USA: Domestic Issues )

"When you elect people who believe government is the problem, who believe government is bad, you get bad government."

Years ago, people I knew in DC used to say that the Dems ran things better. They just meant that the agencies ran better at lower levels under the Dems.

They did not really care about the politics of either party or those of the agency head. They just believed that something would get handled better in the way of paper and proceedings.

http://mauberly.blogspot.com/

mauberly August 2, 2007 - 2:52pm

...I know some people in the DoD who will disagree.

But Sean-Paul, you hit the nail on the head. What do you expect from government run by people who have contempt for it?

Steve 2.0 August 2, 2007 - 3:13pm

When high level officials ridicule "reality-based" approaches as something obsolete, when they believe we make "our own reality", isn't it a logical consequence that they would tend to have the same attitude about the physical world/laws, not just the socio-political one? Denial and delusions cannot be compartmentalized, they distort more and more aspects of reality to maintain internal consistency.

creativelcro August 2, 2007 - 3:31pm
Gordon August 2, 2007 - 4:08pm

in Bartlett's if you jaw that enough.

http://mauberly.blogspot.com/

mauberly August 2, 2007 - 4:56pm

and say that the Dems in Louisiana have managed well. It sounds to me as though Mr. Barber, the Republican in Mississippi, has done somewhat better, Trent Lott's house notwithstanding.

And I don't have a clue as to Minnesota.

http://mauberly.blogspot.com/

mauberly August 2, 2007 - 5:04pm

"no new taxes" was MN Gov. Pawlenty's calling card first term (and led to embarrassment when he passed a "tobacco impact fee" that was clearly a cigarette tax), and just this spring he stopped a bipartisan proposal to increase the gas tax for transportation funding. While there's blame to go around, I think he's exacerbated problems.

neuhausr August 2, 2007 - 6:42pm

So what makes you think that Bushies and people of that ilk don't like government? Watch them using the military to kill people abroad and various federal agencies here at home to suppress dissent. They are in love with government, just different parts of the government that you appreciate.

Blaze1 August 2, 2007 - 4:19pm

yet that same beloved military is run poorly and treated incredibly badly. there is a difference between liking and believing in a branch of a government than simply using it as a convenient tool to fulfill your objectives whether political or economic. i see no love for the military aside from loving them as martyrs,excuses,and patsies. they dont love the uniformed, they just love the military-industrial complex that makes them all rich. the military is just the excuse to give away money.

but your right in that there is some loving for certain parts of the government, i doubt we will see reductions in the IRS, bloated war on drugs and all the linked organisations, the support for more prisons,or reductions in massive subsidies to wealthy corporations (one of those "we help people who can already help themselves" sorta thing) among other less positive aspects of the machine.

Warvigilent August 2, 2007 - 6:27pm

When all of the heads of this country either elected or appointed by the latter don't beleive in their jobs unless it's to destroy the govt. in wich they serve, then you know that your country is in deep
shit. Bushco is destroying the armed forces, the diplomatic corp, neglecting the basic needs of it's children and it's people, allowing the economy to take a tumble and allowing so many jobs to be outsourced and then the lamentable state of the national infrastructure, roads and bridges, water distribution etc.
I say that the US is slowly getting to the point where the soviets where before the collapse, lots of hot air, bragging that we are the best and what have you, but then you scrape the varnish and you see the tarnish.
America is loosing it and faster thanwe think; unless something is done and done quick the US of A will be not more worth the old Soviet Union.
So bushco managed in 2 mandates to destroy America, how long will your once proud country will tolerate that insult to the American experiment or was the Bush episode just part of the experimental protocol?

Jelco Cathlon August 2, 2007 - 9:03pm

...represents the attitudes and aspirations of our people. When we see ourselves, we see George W. Bush, and we generally see the world the way he does. We've soured on him, not because of his policies, but his inability to carry them out competently.

Steve 2.0 August 3, 2007 - 12:45am

eom

chalo August 3, 2007 - 3:41am

There are many here who always found him sour and never agreed with his policies and always thought he was an incompetent boob.

Tina August 3, 2007 - 4:39am

as far as the "collective psyche" goes. we are an individualistic society, pardon the oxymoron, but it's true. my way or the highway, is the motto of many; exceptionalism the standard.
we value the rugged individual, and it's not a bad thing, but it's extremes can be mighty troublesome.

dk August 3, 2007 - 9:15am

...about 25% of the population. He fooled another 24.9% (remember all those Jon Stewart segments where he had President Bush debating Candidate Bush? You know, that candidate who was against interventions and nation building, for limiting carbon emissions...).

In fact, most people think his policies suck. Alas, that doesn't include Katie Couric, Brian Williams, Tim Russert, Hugh Hewitt, David Gregory, Suzanne Malveaux...

Gordon August 3, 2007 - 9:42am

represents the Republican idea that in the realm of politics ONLY POWER is REAL. In this view of the world, the collapse of the bridge in Minnesota and the Flooding of NOLA represent nothing real except opportunities to be exploited for purposes of political gain. The people harmed or killed have no relevance. They so not exist except as objects to be exploited for the purposes of holding power. They have no physical or moral significance outside of this context. Once a ruling class has reached this level of cynicism, what they rule must crumble. In a figurative way they believe they can command pigs to fly. Let us hope that enough of us then can recognize what lands on our heads, on our empty plates, and on our Sunday clothing; and we choose to throw the bastards out for a long time.

mtspace August 3, 2007 - 8:46am

I live in a small Republican conservatarian town in western Virginia that has recently discovered that it's whole water delivery system basically needs replacing and they don't have the money to do it.
In an era of sane national government under the Democrats, block grants would be available and this stuff would be occurring on an ongoing basis.

The Cheney/Bush Republicans are greedy and stupid and very short term thinkers. Cheney's purchase of the asbestos burdened Dresser Industries for Halliburton is a wonderful example of the stupidity and incompetence. They needed the Iraq war to get Halliburton out of the hole Cheney dug. Ah, crony capitalists. East Asia, ya ain't got nothing on the Pubs.

Of course, much of this stems from the good old US frontier ethic of screw it up, use it up and move on west.

Remember, it was US government policy to extinguish the Bison herds in the west to subjugate the Indians. They almost suceeded too. But hell, those Texas cattlemen always knew beef was better for you anyway. Grrrr. I feel a rant coming on.

JT August 3, 2007 - 9:11am

I was just poking the whoopie-cushion, with predictable (but amusing) results.

Gordon August 3, 2007 - 9:46am

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. This principle is, contempt prior to examination."

Sean Paul Kelley August 3, 2007 - 12:24pm

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