Hatred Is Learned, Not Inherited, Part 2


Here's the deal, we see the Israeli side of the story on TV and in the newspapers all the time. The suicide bombings, the intra-Palestinian violence and the very real hatred that some Palestinians have for many Israelis. We see it. It's all over the news.

But, do you ever see the Palestinian side point of view? Other than anodyne shots of the wall and a bland shot of a bulldozer amidst what's left of a former Palestian olive grove, do we ever really see what the Palestinians have to endure? Watch the video and you'll get a small glimpse into a Palestinian's world.

If you are offended by course language don't watch this video. I promise you there is no violence, blood or gore. Frankly, that makes it worse, as the level of hatred is really heartbreaking. As I have said before, hatred is learned, not inherited.

Here you can find more discussion on anti-semitism, Palestine and Jimmy Carter.


Sean Paul Kelley February 9, 2007 - 12:58am

I think the evangelicals might even get upset.

Bucksouth February 9, 2007 - 1:26am

I got a snoot full of in Hebron (West Bank). Just before we were there, a prominent Evangelical, Roberta Combs, of the Christian Coalition, had visited. The kind of kids that are in the video are described thusly:

The Christians I was with got it instantly. Roberta Combs, president of the Christian Coalition of America, and five other leaders of the organization, insisted on visiting Hebron when they arrived in the country just after the ambush, on a 4 day visit. "We're not afraid of terrorists," Ms. Combs said, in her southern accent. "We understand this response to terror. Y'all just have to stand your ground," she told some of the young people who gathered around as the group walked through the area. Hugging a shy young boy, Ms. Combs announced that Hebron would be in her prayers when she returned to the US.

What you see in the video, is not entirely representative. Many settlers treat the settlements as the suburbs from which they commute to work on roads that Palestinians are not allowed to travel. The kids you see in this video are not a couple of bad apples, but do represent that the rabid minority. Nevertheless, 'Where a Jew sleeps, a Jew guards.' The IDF is there to protect all settlers.

LJ February 9, 2007 - 2:25am

Is there a backstory to this video?

Why were the kids there? Who is the photographer?

THIS was the ilk that killed Rabin. Some people forget that these days.

Steve 2.0 February 9, 2007 - 2:45am

staying with a Christian Peacemaker Team, these activists regularly went out with cameras to document their work. My guess is that some international activist was putting him/herself in danger to make this film. Activists are not popular but they sure have guts. It will increasingly become more difficult for anyone (tourist, the press, Israeli or international activists, etc.) to get into the West Bank. As the wall is constructed, the checkpoints are becoming more like international border crossings. Jimmie Carter's controversial word "Bantustan", which is entirely reasonable, may at some point become too mild.

LJ February 9, 2007 - 11:28am

and the Israelis have no monopoly on learned hatred among the interested parties in that region of the world S-P. I remember how impressed I was recently with something you wrote about how your radio show reflected the kind of conversation on the Middle East that was sorely lacking for the most part, because your guests and the callers talked to and not past each other. I recall being so sorry that I missed that program.

By the way, the people on this video don't reflect what is learned or condoned by most Jews or by most Israelis. Yes, indeed, there are extremists all around.

I don't google every article and TV show, but I respectfully reject your premise that you don't see the hatred on the Israeli side of the coin in the MSM. As an example, the NYT had a lengthy article on Wednesday or Thursday about demands being made by a prominent group of Israeli Arabs in connection with their inherently discriminatory status inside the green line. Not a pretty article to read if you're a Likudnik.

Respectfully, and for illustrative purposes on the other hand, with all the time spent on the Middle East on this site, how many posts can you count on Agonist in which the ongoing dispute between Palestinian factions is even mentioned? I don't think I've seen any, although I don't pretend to read every post. Isn't that internal struggle an important part of the puzzle even if it obfuscates what the conventional wisdom is about what is going on in Israel and in Palestine?

P.S. Correction--I think I posted an article once about Abbas' decision to call for new elections. But in terms of the shooting between Palestinian factions, I don't recall much attention being paid to that reality. Again, I could be wrong.

Correctin Update--It does appear that there have been a couple of news articles posted about the internal Palestinian squabbles, one by Adrena and one by S-P.

Bruce February 9, 2007 - 2:23pm

[From the Main Stream Media in the form of the Christian Science Monitor, January 22, 2007--Note how this was covered also in both Haaretz and the Jerusalem Post]

Fresh controversy erupts over Hebron settlers' treatment of Palestinians

Key Holocaust museum trustee denounces behavior, says it reminds him of prewar Europe anti-Semitism.

By Tom Regan | csmonitor.com

The chairman of Yad Vashem, Israel's Holocaust museum, has ignited a controversy in Israel with recent comments, as reported by JTA, that "television footage showing some Hebron Jews harassing their Arab neighbors reminded him of the anti-Semites he encountered in pre-war Europe." Haaretz reports that Tommy Lapid's remarks came after Mr. Lapid saw footage of a Hebron woman hissing insults at her Palestinian neighbor and settler children lobbing rocks at Arab homes.

Lapid, a Holocaust survivor who lost his father to the Nazi genocide, said in a weekly commentary on Israel Radio that the acts of some Hebron settlers reminded him of persecution endured by Jews in his native Yugoslavia on the eve of World War Two.

"It was not crematoria or pogroms that made our life in the diaspora bitter before they began to kill us, but persecution, harassment, stone-throwing, damage to livelihood, intimidation, spitting and scorn," Lapid said.

"I was afraid to go to school, because of the little anti-Semites who used to lay in ambush on the way and beat us up. How is that different from a Palestinian child in Hebron?"

Lapid, a former justice minister in the Israeli government, first made his remarks in an opinion piece last week in the Jerusalem Post.

When we decide, and rightly so, to never under any circumstances compare the behavior of Jews to that of Nazis, we are forgetting that anti-Semitism only reached its height at Auschwitz. It had existed, was active, frightening, harmful and disgusting - exactly like [Yifat] Alkobi's [a Jewish woman seen the television footage mentioned above] image - in the years that preceded Auschwitz too. And behind shuttered windows hid terrified Jewish women, exactly like the Arab woman of the Abu-Isha family in Hebron.

It is unthinkable that the memory of Auschwitz should serve as a pretext to ignore the fact that living here among us are Jews that behave toward Palestinians exactly the way that German, Hungarian, Polish and other anti-Semites behaved toward Jews.

Hebron has long been a problem spot. Four hundred "heavily guarded" Israeli settlers live surrounded by 120,000 Palestinians. Over the years, both sides have committed atrocities. A Hebron community spokesman says that 37 Israelis have been killed there in six years, Haaretz reports. In 1994, a settler named Dr. Baruch Goldstein enterned the Muslim side of Patriarch's Tomb and killed 29 Palestinians.

Reuters reports that settlers in Hebron reacted angrily to Lapid's comments, which officials at Yad Vashem said did not represent official policy.

"The man is obviously a very, very sick person, to compare the Jews in Hebron to barbarians and compare us to the Nazis," David Wilder, a spokesman for the settlers in Hebron, said in response to Lapid.

Arutz Sheva reports that Aryeh Eldad, a conservative National Union party member in Israel's parliament, the Knesset, also blasted Lapid's remarks.

"It cannot be that the head of the Yad Vashem [Council] would compare a small neighbors' dispute to the Nazi persecution of Jews," Eldad said. "He long ago proved, when he was in politics, his hatred for minority groups, and he should be fired immediately. Yad Vashem should condemn him for his words that sully the memory of the holy Holocaust victims."

In an news analysis in the Jerusalem Post, Anshel Pfeffer writes that the truth is that the situation in Hebron representes the worst of both sides.

The settlers huddled around the Cave of the Patriarchs believe that they are bravely clinging on to Abraham's purchase on behalf of the rest of his children while facing the murderous terrorists who make up most of Hebron's Arabs.

The Palestinians, and with them most of the Israeli and international media, see the Jewish community as 600 racists intent on ethnically cleansing the 120,000 local inhabitants. There is no potential middle-ground, no place for compromise, no relative moderates prepared to criticize violence and call for an accommodation.

Haaretz reported last Monday that Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh of the Labor Party said that "The laws are not being enforced sufficiently and promptly in Hebron, especially with regard to Israeli settlers." Later in the week, 150 Israeli Peace Now protestors and a similar number of right-wing activisits confronted each other in Hebron over the incident shown in the TV footage.

---Poster's Note--Love is probably learned too, as reflected in the 150 Israeli protestors from Peace Now who went to Hebron to protest the shame brought on by the extremist uncompromising settlers in that ancient holy town.

Bruce February 9, 2007 - 4:15pm

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