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. . . if Obama is a smoker or not? No one is perfect. Just look at George W. Bush: he's an avid runner and in great health. Bang up job he's done, yeah?
Dear ABC: please pay attention to what's really important, not this crap.
And his team works overtime trying to hide Obama's dirty little secret. “He is -- get this -- a cigarette smoker.” L0L
Does Obama inhale?
BS journalism!
The Bogus 'Science' of Secondhand Smoke.
WHO study.
There is no bases in fact that passive smoking is harmful to people that do not smoke.
I would agree that smoking does stink and leaves a yellow deposit, but show me some scientific evidence that Secondhand Smoke (SHS) is detrimental to the health of nonsmokers. Do people lick the yellow deposit that it leaves with their tongue?
Wretched busybodies that pick on others are often overweight, have poor eating habits and have nothing better to do than look for the causes of their misery anywhere except themselves. I smoked like a chimney all the time I was pregnant and her growing up. She is now a confirmed anti smoker and tries to make my life hell. She’s forty pounds overweight and that has to be more harmful to her health than my coming to her house and lighting up a cigarette. I do not smoke in her house, but she’s constantly on my back about quitting my ‘nasty’ habit. She loves to come to my house and continue her campaign of getting me to stop. Why doesn’t she clean up her own filthy habit that causes her to be overweight? My weight has always been under control and yes I do use cigarettes to help fight hunger pangs. Which kills first, smoking or being overweight and having high blood pressure…then of course there is high cholesterol? Door #1 kills fewer people that door 2, 3 and 4. I have low blood pressure and my cholesterol level has always been low. I’m coming up 65 years old and have no intention of giving up my addiction, but since the smoke police elected themselves to be my judge, I have given up smoking everywhere else except in the privacy of ‘my’ home and car. My daughter is welcome to put on my tombstone, “Here lies my mother who smoked from the age of 14 and look how young she was when she died…I give her my permission to add the inscription of the cause of my death.” I will not be around to see what the cause of hers was. But women do live long lives in my family, ‘Great grandmother 92, grandmother 83, my mother who will be 86 this year.’ My mother was a heavy smoker ‘til she was in her late 60’s and stopped because she had a heart condition. I will ‘perhaps’ stop if I get a condition that is similar to hers.
I remember one Christmas Eve that my daughter took my coat out of her closet because it smelled. She put it in the cold garage and did not put in the dryer before I had to put it on. I was forced to travel 50 miles with a wet, cold coat. We did have words over that incident—she has never repeated that lack of humanity—had I been susceptible to colds and pneumonia, her act of cruelty could very well have killed me.
Is there a link between anti-smoking campaigns and puritanical believes? I would suggest that toxic, controlling governments are more dangerous than dependence on cigarette. How’s this for an idea? "If there is a nation that you do not like, encourage them to smoke and give them free cigarettes…the population will be decimated and it will be much cheaper than the budget for military spending."
“Rant over!”
of cigarette smoke is unpleasant to me, but I'm not an anti-smoking Nazi. It's still a free country, yeah?
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. This principle is, contempt prior to examination."
"There is no basis in fact that passive smoking is harmful to people that do not smoke."
I get horrible sinus and ear infections if I'm around cigarette smoke for too long--though it takes a few hours, admittedly. I can't sleep in "smoking" hotel rooms either unless I want to spend the next few days downing antibiotics. Same goes for friends' houses where someone smokes inside, etc.
So, yeah, it can affect the health of non-smokers--though I could be a very rare exception. I don't know if second-hand smoke is as much of a health concern as many groups make it out to be, but I'm so very, very happy that most restaurants and bars around me are smoke-free. That means that I'm infection-free.
:P
Yes, they are more pleasant places to be. The smell of cigarettes is enough to make quite a people choke either as a physcial reaction or psychologically because it is so repugnant.
These are not places one stays for long periods and I have no objection to the ban. But I do insist on a smoking room for an overnight stay. There are enough rooms for smokers and non-smokers alike. I have refused to stay in rooms where the smell is overwhelming.
Each needs to accommodate the other and not insist that their rights trump others.
The smoke police do go beserk, but so too do smokers who are insistent that their vice has no effect on nonsmokers. Isn't it enough that smokers are banned to smoking outside in all kinds of weather? Most thoughtful people smoke only in the privacy of their homes and vehicles and know they will not be hired, because of the stink on their clothing and do not apply for jobs where there is a preference for nonsmokers.
It's the extremeness of viewpoints that are at fault and not the habit itself.
Drinking too much 'pure' water can cause death. LOL
of your position. I had initially thought that you were one of those "I can smoke anywhere I want without regard for others" people. My mistake.
Yes, having separate accomodations (smoking rooms, etc.) would work just fine. As I mentioned, it has to be prolonged exposure for more than a few hours before I start having trouble.
A stupid pundit, on the other hand, can't simply quit being stupid.
a pundit though.
We can only hope...
Bessie Braddock: Sir, you are drunk. Winston Churchill: And you, madam, are ugly. But in the morning, I shall be sober.
"Damn right it's loaded, it makes a lousy club."
I only steal from the best.
I know that's a rhetorical question, but I care. I think his character is shady and I think it's a shady habit. At least he's interested in quitting ... but then again, he's suppose to be a distinguished American now. Would you want to lose a single vote over smoking in such state-splitting, close elections? I never picked up smoking, I never did cocaine, I never became an alcoholic. Did you? How many of you went beyond the experimentation phase and habitually, seriously abused substances? Are you down with Obama?? 'Cause he was hardcore dude! Are these all such mainstream things now that it's okay for someone to be President to have done them? Or is this part of the "Obama is fresh" brand? - "Hey, Obama is not your father's politician; he lit up weed and snorted coke, just like my generation did!" All hail the rockstar politician. Is giving Obama a pass on all that makes him ordinary our version of passing "the beer test"? Are we tired yet of not having someone extraordinary seek the Presidency? We use to not have to settle for or resign ourselves to having such low expectations in our leaders. As for Bush's running and health, do read in full (from http://isbushantichrist.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_isbushantichrist_archive.html):
Sunday, August 21, 2005 Courage and the Coward In Crawford
A lot is being said lately about Cindy Sheehan, whose son Casey was killed in Iraq. Some are calling her the Rosa Parks of the anti-war movement. Not surprisingly, the right is throwing every ugly smear at her they can, because that’s how they operate. They don’t want to discuss issues, just make personal attacks.
But to me, what it really illustrates is the difference between personal courage and cowardice. It would have been easy for Ms Sheehan to do what most mothers in her situation do – to tearfully take the folded flag from the coffin, and go home telling herself that her son had died for a noble cause. The loss is bad enough, without taking up the burden of rage and regret when you realize it was really all for nothing. But she had that courage, and from that she was able to give a meaning and purpose to her son’s death, by facing down the draft-dodging coward who had perpetrated it and told the lies that killed her son.
George W Bush is the personification of cowardice. A coward is still a coward, even though he is given all the power in the world. We tend to confuse the power of the presidency with the character of the man. It isn’t just Cindy Sheehan that Bush is afraid to meet with. Most of all he’s afraid to discover the truth about himself. He figured that recklessly sending other parent’s children off to die for a lie, could somehow mystically turn a draft-dodging coward into a courageous war president.. But Cindy Sheehan proved otherwise. She called his bluff.
It has always amazed me so many people fall for the devil’s tricks. They like to think of Bush as a strong and courageous leader, when all the facts have proven exactly the opposite. Not just his dodging the draft and life-long history of using whiskey as a liquid substitute for courage.
But a strong president would have been someone who had the courage to stand up for average citizens against powerful corporations and wealthy special interests. But never for a millisecond has this (p)resident ever been able to muster that sort of courage. He always allies himself with the strongest and most powerful because he knows they will keep him safe and on top. For him, it’s not so much that he is their flunky, as they are his political bodyguards. And they have kept their end of the bargain and kept him in office, in spite of losing two elections, and in spite of the disastrous state of the country.
This is a guy who not only fled to Nebraska on 9-11, but he has taken vastly more security precautions than any president in history. Wherever he goes – whether to NYC or even our closest ally in London – he completely shuts down the city. Everybody he meets is screened and scripted beforehand, and protesters are kept far away. He might have rushed into Iraq, and had no problem sacrificing Casey Sheehan’s life and the lives of hundreds of thousands of people he doesn’t know or care about – but when it comes to his own life, he takes absolutely NO risks.
Bush’s overwhelming fear of death is also manifested in his obsession with exercise. This is a man who spends two hours a day just working out. This isn’t just some guy going through a midlife crisis – this is a 59 year old man with a pathological fear of growing old and dying. He’s desperately trying to convince himself that if he can get his heartbeat down to 40 beats per minute, he’s still just as young and fit as a High School athlete (though he was actually a High School cheerleader).
That’s why he doesn’t go to any funerals for the soldiers. It’s also why, when Cindy met him the first time, he wouldn’t look at pictures of her son or even say his name. Bush is a coward who has filled his life with lies and illusions, and Cindy Sheehan is the cold reality staring him in the face. She has come back from the graveside, representing all those who have fought and died in Iraq. For Bush, it must be like meeting the grim reaper for the first time. How could he meet with her when, coward that he is, his entire life is geared towards denying her very existence? posted by R. Stephen Hanchett at 2:36 PM
of Yitzak Rabin? Or FDR? Or Paul "Bear" Bryant, Lucille Ball, John Lennon, Edward R. Murrow, Georges Pompidou, Jean-Paul Sartre? All shady indeed.
I didn't think I had to add "in the modern age". Once upon a time owning slaves was the pinnacle of pedigree and civilization as well, but standards change.
He only died in 1995? Sorry, I was a smoker and personally resent the implications of 'shady.' I'm far from perfect, but shady? Nope.
"Was" is the keyword. You WERE a smoker, but you had the good sense to stop before becoming an acclaimed political personality on here and on radio, right? Look, I'm not comparing you or anyone else to Barack Obama, and I'm certainly not going to start with Yitzak Rabin. I just don't want an average Joe with our worst vices and baggage as my first or second or third choice for President. Btw, did you get past the 2nd sentence of my post?
I simply disagree with your view. Everyone has an 'issue' and no one is perfect. That's the whole point of my post. He smokes? So what. Bush is a dry drunk but doesn't smoke. Who's more qualified to be president? I know some people will or won't vote for Obama based on whether he smokes or not. But in a day and age when we're talking about issues like war, nuclear proliferation and other things that just seems to me to be the height of absurdity to worry about something that shallow.
I just don't get the animus people have about smoking, other than the health issues. If they don't smoke around you what does it matter? If people want to smoke, so effing what. If a politician smokes, fine by me. That's probably the worst vice he/she has.
"that we're doing it for the children." We're not. You're not. No one is. If this country was serious about 'the children' then there would not be several million uninsured children in America. And the dropout rates, especially in Texas would not be hovering near 40%. WHo the fuck wants to graduate from High School just so they can go to college and get 50k in debt and have a shit job when they graduate?
The children my ass.
Don't worry, I wasn't singling out the children. No Nancy Pelosi primadonna here ... I think it's important - a serious issue - that Bush is a "dry drunk", psychology. Stephen Hanchett writes about that at length too, as does Justin Frank "Bush On the Couch" and Mark Crispin Miller "Cruel and Unusual", for example. Why can't we just honestly admit that Obama is a recovering addict - from cocaine and other drugs, to alcohol, and now cigarettes? The one thing that shouldn't be a big deal is admitting that simple fact - hell, by his own admittance even. Which by the way, what kind of man airs his dirty laundry in a book for public consumption years before anyone even knows who he is? No wonder Oprah loves him. Some may say that's wise foresight politically, but to me it just strikes me as vain and tacky. I just think it's interesting that he's one upping everyone before him in ambition. In 1960 Kennedy sought the Presidency at age 42 .. that was breaking the barrier at the time .. but he had served in Congress for 15 years at that point, had returned home a war hero and as a reporter for Hearst Newspapers had interviewed Eisenhower at the end of it, along with having had an award winning book, "While England Slept" about an important policy subject. Then there was Profiles in Courage. Fast forward 44 years later and John Edwards is 2nd only to Kerry for the nomination, after serving just 5 years in the Senate, but he had a compelling story of success, partially captured in "4 Trials", a great read, and accomplished a few positive things in his single term. But now after serving 2 years as a Senator and a single term in the state legislature, Barack Obama is in more of a rush at a much younger 45 than we're accustomed to. It's not enough for him to be the first black to have a chance at the Presidency, he wants to really stack the deck against himself. Before he can get seasoned and become proven with SOME kind of record, you know, like everyone else has. It's part of his new buzz, the turned upside down logic of "his lack of qualifications is his qualifications". And if that weren't enough, there's his wild past. And on top of all this he runs for President on a platform of platitudes, like the Joel Osteen of politics. He has audacity all right, and now he's selling it like a brand in a name called hope. I feel uneasy about someone who went through such a self destructive cycle, but then, when they clean up, lets their ego get to them and grows too big for their britches. It's a recipe for a big fall; we've all seen this story before.
Really? I hope so. 'Cause I felt bad about offending you or anyone else before, like I wasn't getting my point across clearly. This isn't about smoking itself to me, as much as it is part of something larger. No one here is shady to me; I admire all of you. But I will remain unapologetic in my dissaproval of smoking in the 21st century. Sure, we all have bad habits and weaknesses, but we have enough of them already without having to add smoking as one of them, which is more of a choice without any excuse worth rationalizing. I may not be a religious nut, but I do believe in God, and when one of the great things we get to have for a long time is our health, I just think it's so disrespectful to ourselves and to what God has given us to make a chimney of our bodies. It's choosing death - this hazardous, passive-aggressive habit - and we should show our gratitude for life, for how good we've got it, when so much of the rest of the world is suffering. I implore anyone who reads this that smokes to stop smoking AND WATCH THIS
by this post. foily smoke and other ideas about what it could mean to have a smoking prez in this day and age.
fwiw- i agree with you 10000%: who cares? it's not like lighting up is the same as starting an illegal war of choice in the middle east...
on other people's part that they refuse to see that 'some' people are less than perfect!
Who the hell is other than Jesus and he's dead. Cut smokers some slack and think about your own vices.
Closet smokers:
Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis was a chain smoker. One of the few pictures there are of her with a cigarette in her hand.
Laura Bush was a smoker.
Did Laura Bush quit…there are rumours that she did not!
Book: First Lady sneaks smokes (http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_3676474) That link does not work. I wonder why? L0L
By MEREDITH B. MAZZOTTA | For the Daily Record/Sunday News
Apr 5, 2006 — First Lady Laura Bush exudes poise, politeness and the occasional stream of cigarette smoke.
Although she officially quit the habit ten years ago, Bush still sneaks a smoke now and again from friends and White House aides, according to a new biography on her life in bookstores Tuesday: "Laura Bush: An Intimate Portrait of the First Lady" by Ronald Kessler.
But Jack Hayes, a member of the board the York chapter of the American Cancer Society, said Bush's actions are "dumb."
"There are 4,000 chemicals in one cigarette and when she smokes that cigarette she harms not only herself but everyone around her that isn't smoking," he said.
Hayes, 71, smoked a pack a day for 36 years, then stopped "cold turkey" after learning he had cancer of the larynx. Too scared to ever pick up another cigarette, Hayes found comfort in Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.
In 1994, Hayes' larynx was removed and he now breathes and speaks through a small hole in his throat.
Bush "is making a bad example to the teenagers," Hayes said. "They think if the First Lady is smoking, I can too and it must be very fashionable. That's what we've got to stop."
Kessler's book describes how the first lady's opinions have "brought budget changes to a range offederal agencies," as well as more personal details such as her smoking lapses and her difficulty in conceiving children, according to the book's publisher, Random House.
A Dover resident, Al Meskunas, has tried to quit smoking and said the first lady's occasional puffs humanize her.
"I think every reformed smoker would like to have one now and then it's just that you don't want the floodgates to open and start smoking all over again," Meskunas said. "I admire anybody who quits, because it's very difficult, very difficult."
Nearly 23 percent of Pennsylvania adults smoke cigarettes. Smoking is the leading preventable cause of death in the United States, accounting for approximately one in five deaths, according to the Food and Drug Administration.
Carl Kassar has run a treatment program for smokers at Hanover Hospital for the past two and a half years. A reformed smoker, Kassar does not advocate taking occasional drags to his patients.
"I tell them either you smoke or you don't. Leaving that door open still means that you are a smoker, you just don't do it as often."
Kassar said smoking now and then is risky and can lead to a relapse.
"Bush's smoking, despite her high profile, only underscores the insidious nature of nicotine," Kassar said.
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Which is preferable...a person who admits they do, and does not blow smoke in your face and respects your space, or one that lies like a blanket? If I were married to thank punk, I'd deliberately set either him or myself on fire and make sure there were no fire extinguishers around to extinguish the blaze. There's a thought...Laura could redeem herself and become a national heroine, if only she would set that sucker on fire, stand back and watch him burn! ROTFLMAO! I'm easily amused.
Aren't you tired of cutting people slack?
we need more tolerance and less slack, slack is about accountability and tolernace is about simple differences.
- EOM
Praise Bob!
Oh My God ... the Subgenius Hour of Slack with Bob Dobbs was like my religion when I was a 15 year old in 1989 .. ha ha - thanks for the flashback! Praise Bob!
if the circumstances warrant it. I do it almost daily for my rabid, non-smoking daughter. She's a good person, but has some quirks as a Type A, controlling personality, that have to be ignored.
physically fit Presidents.
It's his mind that's hosed.
The small brain part that makes us human By Sandra Blakeslee Wednesday, February 7, 2007
The recent news about smoking was sensational: some people with damage to a prune-size slab of brain tissue called the insula were able to give up cigarettes instantly.
Suppose scientists could figure out how to tweak the insula without damaging it. They might be able to create that famed and elusive free lunch — an effortless way to kick the cigarette habit.
That dream, which may not be too far off, puts the insula in the spotlight. What is the insula and how could it possibly exert such profound effects on human behavior?
According to neuroscientists who study it, the insula is a long-neglected brain region that has emerged as crucial to understanding what it feels like to be human.
They say it is the wellspring of social emotions, things like lust and disgust, pride and humiliation, guilt and atonement. It helps give rise to moral intuition, empathy and the capacity to respond emotionally to music.
Its anatomy and evolution shed light on the profound differences between humans and other animals.
The insula also reads body states like hunger and craving and helps push people into reaching for the next sandwich, cigarette or line of cocaine. So insula research offers new ways to think about treating drug addiction, alcoholism, anxiety and eating disorders.
Of course, so much about the brain remains to be discovered that the insula's role may be a minor character in the play of the human mind. It is just now coming on stage.
The activity of the insula in so many areas is something of a puzzle. "People have had a hard time conceptualizing what the insula does," said Martin Paulus, a psychiatrist at the University of California, San Diego.
If it does everything, what exactly is it that it does?
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I shall look forward to being brain damaged in order to be successful at stopping. Is it possible my maker didn't equip my brain with an insula?
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