"Increasingly Seen As Inevitable"


I'm not sure where to begin this post. The American foreign policy elite's failure of imagination, and the dank, fever-swamp of Dick Cheney's 'One Percent Doctine' is fast pushing the leaders of our country off of a cliff. That is the only assumption I take away from tonight's Nelson Report. Nelson basically says that, based on his reading of all the inside discussions and debates ongoing in our nation's capitol, at some point in the not so far off future, we will, more than likely, attack Iran in some manner. I don't have the time right now to write up a long post, so here's what Nelson writes tonight about the American foreign policy elite's internal debate about Iran:

SUMMARY: on the “Iran question”, we note an increase in what might be called “informed community internal debate”...a real discussion debate, not a “leak” of what’s being actively planned. The topic...“if” the US launched a pre-emptive attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities, what would be the result?

More after the jump.

Continued:

As we go through the list-serve postings from diplomats, career military folks, strategic planners, and even a few journalists, we are struck by a sense of what might be termed reluctant inevitability. You don’t have to have to have read Sy Hersh’s latest, fascinating and depressing report in The New Yorker, to know that there has been a great deal of back-channel discussion between the US, Israel and other potential players, on the policy and practicalities of a possible effort to knock out Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

But Hersh’s piece is particularly valuable in that it adds meat to the bones of suspicion that the top levels of the professional US military are very, very concerned that the political decision-makers are not adequately assessing the likely Iranian reaction to a pre-emptive attack.

It is not a cheap-shot to constantly remind ourselves of the level of delusion which characterized the Bush Administration’s pre-Iraq war “intelligence”, a failure only exceeded by the post-war planning and execution. The lesson, is that it is both fair, and potentially life critical, to ask whether this Administration can be trusted to rationally assess what to do about Iran.

History will not be kind to the US Congress for its derelictions, either. In any event...

In the past few days, a professional military list serve we monitor has been full of a long list of questions, with some speculative answers. What strikes us as both daunting, and critically important, is a rising sense that hitting Iran would not be like going after the Taliban in Afghanistan. Rather, it would...absolutely would...produce attacks on not just US interests in the region, but the US itself.

The most commonly held view is that whether Iran struck back openly or indirectly, the results would certainly include an even worse security situation in Iraq, and blows directed at Saudi Arabia’s oil shipping capacity...with all that would imply to the US and world economy.

Given this assumption, the key question thus becomes whether the various attack risks can be balanced against the risk of trying to negotiate an acceptable Iranian membership in the international nuclear weapons club...”another Pakistan” is the most frequent analogy.

Where the internal discussion gets really depressing is a sense, among many careful, educated experts, that even if the odious Amadinejad was not President of Iran (with due allowance for the checks on his power), the example of the precarious situation in Pakistan gives us the real answer to “allowing” a mullah-controlled Iran to achieve nuclear weapons capability, at some point in the future.

As one Loyal Reader puts it:

“I have a number of fears about a nuclear Iran. One is that the Arabs and Turks will not be content to stand pat while someone like Ahmadinejad positions himself as the authentic leader of the entire Muslim world. We simply don't know where that will lead.

Another, more immediate issue is the ‘Pakistan problem’: our one previous example of a nuclear-armed state that is also an active sponsor of terrorist organizations suggests that if we have a problem with Hizbullah or other Iran-sponsored terrorists attacking our country, our allies, or our interests (e.g., those aforementioned Saudi oil terminals), well, too bad, because what are we going to do about it? Ask the Indians how much they liked having their parliament attacked and not being able to respond for fear of starting a nuclear war.

As bad as a conflict with Iran might be, after they have tested a nuclear device, the world will be even worse off. Still, don't get me wrong. The prospect of conflict is not pretty and we should not assume that we can control where events go. Perhaps it is better to fight sooner rather than later for that very reason, but no one should fool themselves about what it might look like.

“Perhaps it is better to fight sooner rather than later...” we’ve underlined this reluctant conclusion, as it sums up pages of debate, in recent days. What it would seem to underscore is that the timeline for political decision-making may be a great deal shorter than a timeline based on the science of making a nuclear bomb. If there may be another 5 years, technically speaking, the political calculation is likely to be far, far shorter...that’s the message we’re getting from the insider’s discussion.

Is there no hope? Of course...it would seem to us, and to a great many people, that all of the above simply underscores why the US, Russia, the EU and, yes, China, need to redouble efforts to come up with a Grand Bargain for Iran...a deal that not even the demented bloviations of an Amadenijad can derail.

Is that possible? We don’t know. But we do know that there is an increasing sense of the likely cost of the failure to really try. As diplomat Jim Dobbins relates, look at Iranian negotiating behavior, and genuine assistance, during the operation to remove the Talbian from Afghanistan, and you see a surprisingly sophisticated, real politik picture of the decision-making capabilities of the current Iranian leadership.

Can you make a real deal on nukes? No one knows. But the risks of a military “solution” are increasingly seen as inevitable.

Three words: failure of imagination. This country will go to war because we can't get over the fact that Iran held dozens of our fellow countrymen hostage for a year-and-a-half almost 30 years ago. Great nations are not quite so petty, if you ask me.


Sean Paul Kelley August 28, 2006 - 6:19pm
( categories: Iran )

and Bush is falling into the trap.
Iran is posturing and wants every nation involved.
If every nation is involved they will negociate.
If it is just the US and Great Brittain they will know it is Bush and minni-me involved.
World opinion means everything here, not just Bush's ego!
Remember that Bush has said nothing about India's nuclear programs!
Nothing about Pakistans nuclear programs!
You can't have two standards in the world and expect everyone to follow the "US" expectations!
The US has to remember that in Lebanon, the Israelis over-reacted.
The US supplies the Israelis with modern weapons.
Iran supplied Hezbollah with ancient weapons.
Hezbollah captured the Israeli soldiers in Southern Lebanon.
The news was twisted to make Hezbollah look bad and Israel (US) look good!
I am now thinking that the Iranian leader (how-ever you pronounce his name) is taking the same tact that the Israelis are doing.
The Israelis are taking land from the Palestinians in their own legal way and illegally. In the name of their (God) rights.
The Iranian leader is saying the same thing about Israel.
He wants Israel removed. Israel is removing the Palestinians!
Where am I wrong?
DON'T BRING YOUR GOD INTO THIS!

repressive governments mix administrative clumsiness & inefficiency with authoritarian tendencies.

kimmy August 28, 2006 - 8:22pm

When the Keil canal was completed, some General said, "We are ready, and the sooner the better for us." They felt the balance of power was slowly shifting against them with the rise of Russia, the encirclement by France and the UK, etc.

And we all know how right they were...

And Bush reminds me a lot of the weak, hysterical Kaiser Wilhelm.

I hate to think we are as fucked as this...

I'd also say that "sooner" means "October 2006." Wouldn't everyone here agree?

lambert August 28, 2006 - 10:14pm

If the US attacks Iran then they will severly regret it, so will the rest of the world.

Now, if only billions of $'s had been sunk into renewable and clean energy, then Iran probably woulndn't have the argument they need it for power needs. Legitamate or not, that argument is the basis for them justifying it to the rest of the world, that and that they feel threatened by the US and unhappy about the Isreal thing.

Solving the worlds energy problems would go a long way to solving many many others, through knock on effects. By the way, I saw this a few days back and thought it was on Agonist, but I don't see it in either science or global energy.

I wrote about it here

Caribdude August 28, 2006 - 11:32pm

Frankly, if this is all that you can summon as "criticism" of the march toward yet another illegal, destabilising, and ultimately self-inflictingly ruinous war launched by an unprecedentedly criminal administration, I'm wondering if you have indeed read all of Sy Hersh's articles, in addition to that which Chris Nelson addresses. For an attack on Iran's nuclear processing infrastructure will inevitably go well beyond that so-called "limited objective", to include targeting of Iran's retaliatory capability, such as her anti-ship missile facilities, short-range tactical ground-to-air missile sites, air force, etc., etc. At the same time, efforts would be mounted to "interdict" cross-border movements of Iranian ground forces into Iraq, where the most obvious retaliation targets present themselves: US military installations and troop concentrations. In short, this whole region will be "lit up", as the military buffs would have it, with absolutely dire consequences for not only hundreds of thousands of civilians in the immediate combat areas, but ultimately to the infamous "secure oil supplies" desideratum and all those round the world dependent upon Middle East oil.

Were it only a case of "great-power pettiness", or, indeed, a "failure of imagination", as though we are talking about the 40-year Cuban embargo, or lack of a comprehensive anti-AIDS policy in Africa. No, I'm afraid that if the Cheneyites get their wish, along with their Christian Zionist,pre-millenarian dispensationist, and right-wing Israeli allies, we indeed will be presented with an "Armageddon" of incalculable disaster, whose consequences can only be adjudged by the most pessimistic and horrific of assessments. You know, I used to think that sometimes the Cheney crowd had adopted the Nixonian "madman" foreign policy stratagem (though in 1973 the Russians actually thought that Nixon was losing it!), but it has become more and more obvious that there indeed is a powerful strand of irrationality and psychopathology infecting the upper reaches of this government, almost as though they somehow know dimly that a certain course of action is utterly doomed to fail, but nevertheless will persevere bathed in the halo of innate righteousness, or in the hope that some sort of deus ex machina will rescue them (and this country) in the end. Maybe the notion of "divine intervention" can't be just laughably dismissed as a "calculation" when these people "brainstorm" about an impending course of action...I can't account for anything else that would allow for a third war launched in 5 years, can you?

barrisj redux August 28, 2006 - 10:36pm

did you not understand: "I don't have the time right now to write up a long post. . . ." ?

Sean Paul Kelley August 28, 2006 - 10:49pm

and there are very, very, very few liberal/progressive bloggers that have been following it. Moreover, I am ACTUALLY GOING to Iran in a few weeks. So, I don't think the interest I have "summoned" is lacking in any way whatsoever. Perhaps the interest of my fellow countrymen, but I take offense at mine interest and concern for this issue being questioned, like I am simply some dilletante trying to score partisan political points.

Sean Paul Kelley August 28, 2006 - 10:52pm

Gosh, so sorry about ruffling sensitive feathers, OB, but loads of people have been on this story, for more than a few months I daresay. I would posit that shortly after Bush's "axis of evil" SOTU speech in 2002, "liberal/progressive" blogs began to conjecture on the odds that Iran would eventually come into the crosshairs of Cheney and his neocons...yes, even pre-dating the infamous "Operation Iraqi Freedom".
Of course, those who actually began to imagine a US attack on Iran did not benefit from the renewed interest stimulated this year by the series of NYer articles by Sy Hersh, tying the wholly factitious "nuclear threat" issue as the potential - and public - rallying cry, but, nonetheless, the fact that Iran does represent a formidable "challenge" to US hegemony in the Middle East has always stuck in the craw of neocons and their Israeli counterparts. So, please, those of us who indeed have been "following this issue for months", or for years, really, aren't at all surprised at the bellicosity and militant posturing by the Cheneyites on this score. Because the fact remains, these guys have a strategic agenda for the Middle East pre-dating the wretched BooshII, which includes Israel having a nuclear monopoly, and that NO STATE will have its hand on Middle Eastern oil that hasn't been officially anointed by the US for that purpose. You really can't be surprised at all this "war talk", can you?

barrisj redux August 31, 2006 - 9:31pm

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