Four Letters For Our Failure In Afghanistan


From today's Times:

After months of widespread frustration with corruption, the economy and a lack of justice and security, doubts about President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan, and by extension the American-led effort to rebuild that nation, have led to a crisis of confidence.

Four letters are the cause of this failure, a failure we will one day in the not too distant future come to rue: Iraq. So many predicted that Iraq would be a massive waste and distraction. Sadly, I told you so, just doesn't feel so good anymore.


Sean-Paul Kelley August 23, 2006 - 1:33pm

Hillier calls Afghan boy's death ‘devastating'
Canadian Press

St. John's — The death of a 10-year-old boy in Afghanistan, shot by a Canadian soldier after a suicide attack claimed the life of a comrade, was “devastating,” the country's top soldier said Wednesday.

Globe and Mail

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Comments, I believe that is the first time a Canadian soldier has killed a child while serving in Afghanistan. A 17-year-old boy was shot too, but not fatally.

The death of Cpl. David Braunhappened and three soldiers who were injured happened hours earlier and wasn’t connected with the shootings of the teen and the child. What a violent country it remains. Tragic that so many die. Forceful peacekeeping is a contradiction in terms.

canuck August 23, 2006 - 1:58pm

"I told you so" is usually a confession of failure. Short of rather cynical schadenfreude I don't see why it should feel good to say it.

As long as there isn't a militarily achievable and politically palatable end scenario in Iraq, things will continue to degrade there untill, at some point, things get desperate enough for the policy makers to cut their losses.

From my perspective, it's disenheartening to think that, and, really, this has been true for a while, I'm thinking that any leadership that is constructive and competent would be an improvement over the current administration which is either bumbling, cynical, or both.

NateTG August 23, 2006 - 2:03pm

Bush.

Dick.


- Rick
"Free your mind, and your ass will follow" - George Clinton

Rick August 23, 2006 - 2:06pm
Mark August 23, 2006 - 2:49pm

I was was unknowing and without a cue. I was surfing along happy with the war in afghanistan. I happen to visit this web site. I got nuked with the real facts. There will never be enough troops or money to won a open ended 30 or 40 years series of wars. -VZ

valconan August 23, 2006 - 7:13pm

I had much the same experience, though not with this site and it was just after the Iraq War in 2003. Those were happy days, when I thought that the invasion of Iraq was no big deal and would never effect me...

But I like understanding reality (or something closer to it) better, regardless of how appealing that fantasy was.

Bolo August 23, 2006 - 7:43pm

What I admire most about contributions at Agonist is most information found here is 'measured' leftist interpretations about issues of concern. And trolls don't seem to gather here or when they do, they don't stay long.

canuck August 24, 2006 - 7:19am

enduring strengths.

Sean-Paul Kelley August 24, 2006 - 10:22am

that and the inability to cite sources that are credible :) They never seem to understand that they are welcome as long as they leave the insults out of their posts. It must be their compassionate conservatism upbringing...



In these times you have to be an optimist to open your eyes when you awake in the morning. ~ Carl Sandburg

Tina August 24, 2006 - 10:41am

To be fair, there are (no sources on this ;) quite a number of sane, lucid, rational, and polite conservative posters.

However, especially in a highly polarized political environment, like this one, there is an unfortunate tendency to take things personally. A more difficult problem is that, for some issues - like the death penalty, abortion, and euthanasia - the dichotomy is almost pathological. As a consequence discussions between 'conservatives' and 'liberals', and on those issues especially, tend not to be constructive.

NateTG August 24, 2006 - 11:37am

How low can they go? yeah I know dumb question..~candy

http://www.gopbloggers.org/mt/archives/004074.html



In these times you have to be an optimist to open your eyes when you awake in the morning. ~ Carl Sandburg

Tina August 24, 2006 - 12:22pm

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