Who do you want to win the Democratic Nomination?





Mark February 11, 2008 - 9:26pm
( categories: USA: Campaign 2008 )

probably because this poll was buried in a thread, if you can take anything away from this, it is the suggestion that while the vast majority of Agonistas clearly believe that Obama will get the nomination, a marginally smaller majority support him in that effort. The weasel word qualifiers have to do with a aforementioned disproportionate sample sizes as well as the generally unscientific nature of these polls.


“I despise ideologues masquerading as objective journalists.” - Bill O'Reilly, March 30, 2007

Mark February 11, 2008 - 10:21pm

:)

Tina February 11, 2008 - 10:24pm

but since I only have two choices (in the real world), I say Obama.

Let's just hope he can get Al Gore to back him.

I suspect that's a real possibility. I don't think Gore was up to the heat a run for president entails, but would make a good advocate and policy formulator. Obama has the conversational skills and the charisma. Kind of JFK-like in his ability to communicate, I'd say.

I did inhale.

Don February 12, 2008 - 12:06am

I have an idea for Comedy Central to host - "Mike Gravel verses Alan Keyes" ... in the "Come From Behind For a Knockout Win" Presidential Debate. The idea is to give the 3rd tier candidates an opportunity, but both are so outrageous that together it ought to be quite entertaining. It would combine Stewart and Colbert's shows for one hour with each moderating for a special episode of "The Daily Report". "MIKE GRAVEL VS. ALAN KEYES"! You heard it here first, and last.

Nominay February 12, 2008 - 5:05pm

there is absolutely no statistical difference, at this point, between those who want Obama to win and those who believe he will. You may take away from this what you wish.


“I despise ideologues masquerading as objective journalists.” - Bill O'Reilly, March 30, 2007

Mark February 12, 2008 - 12:40am

...from the numbers with the benefit of being the late bird at the worm. ;)

Current figures - want to win:

Clinton: 68
Obama: 217

Current figures - think will win:

Clinton: 81
Obama: 371

Expected figures were ratios of want = to think:

Clinton: 51.07
Obama: 233.93

Statistical significance, chi square - observed vs. expected: 0.009

I don't usually do this sort of thing with something as simple as Excel, so take it with a small grain of salt. Needless to say, it'll shift as numbers change.

"A survey data set containing imputed values should not be analyzed uncritically as if all the data were real values." ~ Graham Kalton

JustPlainDave February 12, 2008 - 9:38am

last night!!!!


“I despise ideologues masquerading as objective journalists.” - Bill O'Reilly, March 30, 2007

Mark February 12, 2008 - 1:00pm

...significance until I went to bed.

Current figures - want to win:

Clinton: 109
Obama: 309

Current figures - think will win:

Clinton: 81
Obama: 371

Expected figures for want, were want = to think:

Clinton: 74.91
Obama: 343.09

Statistical significance, chi square - observed vs. expected: 0.0001

Bigger question, of course, is what should we take away from this? My take on it is that folks figure Obama's got the big Mo, but that there's some serious misgivings - not the most earthshaking conclusion, I admit. What I'd really like to see is how the former Edwards supporters are shaking out - the patterning that I saw in his polling suggested to me that there was a significant body of supporters that didn't like Clinton and viewed Edwards as the responsible adult alternative. Where are they going now?

"A survey data set containing imputed values should not be analyzed uncritically as if all the data were real values." ~ Graham Kalton

JustPlainDave February 12, 2008 - 4:13pm

As Obama's key advisors all have ties to Bildeburg, CFR, and varied global Satanically oriented organizations. Hope and change are once against squashed.

Lasthorseman February 12, 2008 - 12:41am

Now there's a real conspiracy.

Gordon February 12, 2008 - 12:48am

Bill made it to Bilderberg before he was even Prez. (reaching for an Alcoa product) Now I wonder how a nothing Gov of a backwater state gets to that secretive place of prominence ... and then lo and behold ... becomes President of the United States?

WAPO 1998 - While Clinton is, as president, the visible leader in the relationship, the two men's friendship is as close to equal as can be in a bond involving the chief executive, friends of both men say. After all, it was Jordan who first introduced then-Gov. Clinton to world leaders at their annual Bilderberg gathering in Germany in 1991. Plenty of governors try to make that scene; only Clinton got taken seriously at that meeting, because Vernon Jordan said he was okay.

ww February 12, 2008 - 12:27pm

She knows how to keep Americans focused on domestic issues, instead of mucking up things for the rest of the world.

John Carter February 12, 2008 - 1:01am

Either one of them will make a fine president.

Can we flip a coin?
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"Adapt or perish." Murphy's Law? Nope, Darwin's Guarantee.

Jimbo92107 February 12, 2008 - 1:33am

"I want the superdelegates to decide for me" option :D

tfisb February 12, 2008 - 1:51am

so hillary doesn't have to take the inevitable fall that the next prez is going to suffer trying to clean up bush's messes. the sclm will turn on him so fast you'll have a linda blair moment, trust me. "it's all obama's fault" will start seconds after he is sworn in, and all information about the bush administration's many crimes will disappear down the memory hole. perhaps hillary can stay in the senate, and relieved of any hopes of being prez, return to her more liberal roots as a legislator/legalist.

chicago dyke February 12, 2008 - 11:41am

I'm sure either of the Great States of New York and Illinois will be delighted to have their junior senator back. And Obama could pad his resume and put his post-partisanship to the test by helping to shepherd Clinton policy through the Senate.



Turn back to the Constitution - and
READ it.

Rick February 12, 2008 - 12:26pm

...in the next 4 years, you should vote McCain, shouldn't you?

OTOH, everyone knows they will scream "it's all the D's fault". Heck they'll do that even if the D's don't win.

Gordon February 12, 2008 - 5:59pm

or if they are a lawyer, one who didn't go to either Harvard or Yale law school, which I've concluded are the epicenters of all of our problems.

jonbrown February 12, 2008 - 4:19pm
mauberly February 13, 2008 - 4:36pm

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