Both honorable men.

Jesus wasn't a Christian.

Kucinich would win the presidency. He is a good speaker and he has the best ideas. If there had been TV in 1859 Lincoln would not have won. As far that, with today's press, FDR would never have been elected. They would have made fun of his physical handicap.

but I will say this. Pick either of the two, make him president, then make the other the vice president with powers like Cheney now enjoys and you save the United States of America for another generation.

Both have weaknesses complimented by the strengths of the other.

Jesus wasn't a Christian.

Install BOTH of them as president. One of them could focus on domestic affairs and the other foreign relations.

support paul's efforts more, just to get some of his ideas into the conversation. most of the liberals i was speaking with dismissed that suggestion as unrealistic, mainly on the basis of paul's associations in the past with unsavory libertarian/extremist types. which i thought was too bad, because he seems like a straight shooter to me, even where i disagree with several of his ideas for policy.

Mr. Kucinich was mayor of Cleveland in the late Seventies, and did for the city what Bush 43 has done for the country.

He's exactly where he should be - in Congress.

update: see below for how my opinion has changed...

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http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/algore2008/

Kucinich - Cleveland. Good ideas, terrible manager.

Ron Paul - Heck, just read his principles:
* Rights belong to individuals, not groups.
* Property should be owned by people, not government.
* All voluntary associations should be permissible -- economic and social.
* The government's monetary role is to maintain the integrity of the monetary unit, not participate in fraud.
* Government exists to protect liberty, not to redistribute wealth or to grant special privileges.
* The lives and actions of people are their own responsibility, not the government's.

Gold standard, no parks, no Dept of Education, no taxes, no Coast Guard, no regulation...

Ron Paul supports limiting the rights of minorities (such as gays) under the guise of religious freedom and States' rights. The fight for individual liberty and individual rights has already taken many American lives, and in my opinion anybody who supports Paul's position doesn't deserve to live in the land of the free. They can go be honorable on some desert island somewhere so nobody gets hurt and so keep their honor, instead of throwing it away by being so shallow or dishonest that they don't look one onion skin below the surface of this segregationist candidate wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.

Dennis Kucinich is the first choice of more people on the issues than ALL other candidates combined. Here's the proof:

http://www.dehp.net/candidate/stats.php

ONLY kucinich has the potential support to take back America from the corporations. Ron Paul's storm troopers can flood these obscure polls all they want, but they just don't have the numbers to impact the big survey linked above that has over 150,000 respondents and so truly shows where people stand on the issues. They've done their best and they have 7% to Kucinich' 56%. So anybody who truly cares about changing America's course has only one choice: Dennis Kucinich.

Those are the facts - if you want to argue, go ahead, but I'm busy working for change. bye.

Sabrina Eaton | Washington | Sept. 24

PD - In Hawaii, Cleveland Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich promotes his long-shot bid for the White House by calling himself "the aloha candidate." In California, he promises "a tremendous economic boom" under his proposed renewable-energy program.

And in the early primary state of New Hampshire, his visits as a presidential candidate are so frequent that he jokes about buying a summer home there.

But Kucinich's campaign jet-setting is no laughing matter to constituents like George Stragisher of Lakewood. Stragisher, a retired professor, worries his congressman is ignoring the people who elected him while he tries to build a national following.

"Who is minding the store and doing my business in Washington while he is flittering around the world?" Stragisher asks.

The question raised by the former professor comes up frequently in Northeast Ohio as the congressman, once known for protesting local hospital closings and spending weekends at area ethnic festivals, spends more time jetting from the Middle East to Florida to North Dakota to California and Hawaii, to cite some of his travels this month.

Kucinich still has plenty of defenders, including local officials who say the congressman has accomplished plenty for the district. They say his staffers ably handle constituent problems, like passport and Social Security glitches.

"He is very present in the community and like any strong advocate, he has a good staff that follows through," says Cleveland City Councilman Jay Westbrook.

But a number of officeholders, like Brook Park's Democratic mayor, Mark J. Elliott, say Kucinich's presidential ambition hurts his district because it has made Kucinich stop devoting personal attention to local issues, such as efforts to stop the closing of an area Ford plant.

"There are times when we need him personally, and that is what we've lacked," says Elliott.

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Dennis and Ron together on the same ticket as Pres & VP... that's what this country needs. Tell me that you wouldn't vote for that combination.

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