Panic Seizes Stock Market


We have finally moved into the panic and capitulation mode for the stock market. Today's 7.3% decline in the Dow Jones brings that index down nearly 40% from a year ago when it reached its all time high. Where will this end?

No one of course can answer that question, other than to say markets do not go down forever. All the reasonable stopping-off places, such as support levels set during the run-up from 2003 to 2007, have been swept aside, and we are rapidly approaching the starting point of this whole rally, which coincided with the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

How fitting for George Bush that he should end his career with a stock market crash, equivalent over the past week to the worst historical crash of 1987 (albeit that one occurred in one day). In both cases, computerized trading has exacerbated the selling, because computers dispassionately send in sell orders every time a support level is broken. Some have even suggested that short selling in financial stocks, which is now legal again as of today, was the cause of this afternoon's crash. Maybe, but remember that the entire market has been under huge pressure the minute this ban was put into place.

Buzz it, Digg it, Heat it

Should you panic and run for the hills? The very smartest traders I know - guys who sit at home and crank out 20% returns every year on their portfolio by day trading - are quietly building up their stock portfolio. Of course, these traders started entirely in cash and owned no equities when this collapse started to escalate, and some of them have profited handsomely by being short the overall market. Still, they are looking at P/E ratios of 10 on average, versus 20+ just last week, and every single stochastic, momentum, and volatility indicator is off the charts in oversold territory.

What this suggests if you are not a trader is that in the coming few months the market will recover somewhat. At that time you can calmly unload some of your stock portfolio, or maybe all of it.

Nor is this 1929 exactly, though we are talking in terms of degrees here. In 1929, the stock market crash came out of the blue and set the stage for the depression, which climaxed in the US with the collapse of the banking system in 1933. This stock market crash is reflective rather than indicative - it is reacting to the collapse of the banking system, not predicting it. To the extent it is predicting anything, it is telling us what we already know from the fact that the interbank credit system has ceased to function - namely, credit is going to be very difficult to obtain now. For you, for small business, for large corporations, for municipalities, for sovereign governments. A long dark winter of economic distress is settling upon the globe. We are all taking our first tentative steps into a new world order, where want and scarcity will dictate how we live and how we interact with our neighbors.


Numerian October 9, 2008 - 7:50pm
( categories: The Markets )

Anything surprising or interesting to you about the way that things are unfolding?

Barry Riholz (sp?) over at Big Picture speculates that the Lehman settlement on Friday is a driver.

Actually, I am very unclear about what this "settlement" will do, or how it is papered.

BR quoted someone as saying that the holders of [?? dirivatives? I was not clear] would get "10 cents on the dollar"

actually, I was somewhat pleased with that because it is my understanding that the best policy approach is to put banks/brokers etc into bankruptcy where all the paper like credit default swaps can be squeezed into pennies on the dollar -- on the theory that these were the most abusive and damaging instruments.

Anyway, a penny for your thoughts

jwp October 9, 2008 - 8:44pm

will be priced in London tomorrow; at least so CNBC says.

http://mauberly.blogspot.com/

mauberly October 9, 2008 - 9:15pm

Here's one way to start with derivatives crisis in major institutions:

"If all the top 25 financial institutions were put into receivership, and (big if) if they all could be liquidated under an agreed legal framework, many of these risky contracts could be allowed to offset each other, and much of the risk eliminated."
Private correspondence, Numerian, The Agonist, Sept. 21, 2008
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0809/S00274.htm

That idea makes a lot of sense.

Michael Collins October 11, 2008 - 3:03am

This is BIG. The level of the volatility index (VIX) reached 64.92, closing @ 63.92. In Asia right now, Japan is down fully 10% so far in its trading session. This takes us back to @ least 1937, if not 1932. Sure, unemployment has not hit 25%; however, anyone who has read THE AGONIST knows the real rate has been skating along @ around 10% since the #'s are jiggered. How long will it take before the wholesale layoffs we've seen in the Financial Services field gooses the real unemployment figures to 12-15%? Numerian is correct: this indeed presages a paradigm shift; there will be no "recovery". Those of us who maintained a top-notch investment portfolio, well-diversified and with our assets properly allocated, have taken and will shoulder substantial losses. Dividends will be cut as this spreads and all those securities will be 'dead money' for years. Assuming cash, FDIC-insured and Treasury bills, bonds, and notes hold their value, forget getting much of an income w/ interest rates south of 2%. Agonistas would be well-advised to stop and reflect, imagine, and connect the dots: this WILL NOT be over for years and the Sci-Fi like Armageddon that is unfolding in slow-motion could be just as dark as your worse thoughts. It may NOT get that intense, but it could. A rubber-band (spring-back) rally could have occured and may still happen, but it is also possible that on every minor rally desperate institutional money managers, pension funds, individuals, professionals, and life insurance companies will be selling into it with a passion. ANYTHING is possible at this stage, including the restoration of rationality, but don't count on it.

vonbahr October 9, 2008 - 9:12pm

a scholar here, it took the Dow a full 25 years to reach its 1929 high after the crash.

http://mauberly.blogspot.com/

mauberly October 9, 2008 - 10:47pm

The Lehman settlement is the first real test of the credit derivatives default process. ISDA - the International Swap and Derivatives Association - which is the industry trade group for derivatives - is organizing a swaparama. They had a trial run a week ago for Fannie and Freddie, and auctioned off to banks and others the defaulted CDS and CDO securities. They managed to achieve loss recovery rates of 91% and higher, not surprising because Frannie are now the full faith and credit of the US government. Don't ask me why they didn't get 100%.

The same process will be applied to the Lehman derivatives. Only this time, estimates of what the market will say the loss is are very broad, with only 10% recovery being bandied about most frequently. This would result in hundreds of billions of dollars having to be paid out by CDS and CDO sellers. Of course, who has that amount of cash these days?

First of all, we should get our priorities straight. Whatever is decided by ISDA tomorrow, the important thing is to concentrate on the Troopergate findings coming out of Juneau or Anchorage or some place in Alaska. All other matters are inconsequential.

I would suggest, though, that the Federal Reserve and Treasury have a reasonable idea of what JP Morgan Chase - who is the only bank really on the hook here - will have to pay even if the default recovery is only 10%. If they don't, then we might as well put Mike Brown in charge of the Treasury.

On this assumption, either the amount is not life-threatening, or the Treasury is on hand to do a capital injection to JP Morgan Chase Bank One First Chicago Valley National First Indianapolis - sorry, I got carried away, but wouldn't it be interesting if we weren't dealing with just 3 gargantuan too big to fail banks in the US?

Since the Treasury has been talking a lot lately about their new-found powers to invest directly in banks, I suspect they are ready for a capital injection tomorrow if necessary. On the other hand, since only you and I and Barry Ritholz are paying any attention to this whole ISDA meeting, I suppose the market could be surprised that such a stalwart bank needs capital. Either way, we seem to be on the cusp of something exciting - finally finding out what is behind the door of this derivatives debacle.

Numerian October 9, 2008 - 9:16pm

like this auction will be a public event.

Is it in a room somewhere? Or online?

Is the inventory known in advance? where published?

I am wondering what door we will see behind, how much we will be allowed to see, and who controls how wide to swing the door

jwp October 9, 2008 - 10:03pm

There's always National Security Directive 51.

Feel better now?

Petronius October 9, 2008 - 9:17pm

This is the part I liked best.

(b) "Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;


"The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential."

- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Escher Sketch October 9, 2008 - 11:25pm

(5)...sustaining the following NEFs shall be the primary focus of the Federal Government leadership during and in the aftermath of an emergency that adversely affects the performance of Government Functions:

(g) Protecting and stabilizing the Nation's economy and ensuring public confidence in its financial system

It's so simple when you think about it!

Petronius October 10, 2008 - 1:00am

A bunch of ugly old white men standing in a circle grinning at each other.

Each man stands on a plush carpet, the corners of which is the hands of the other men.

They are all trying to whip the carpet out from underneath the feet of the other, whilst attempting to remain standing themselves.

To them it is all a great game, they have already awarded themselves handsome bonuses that will keep them in comfort for their remaining years.

So now for them nothing but the Great Game matters, to bring their opponents low, even if they destroy millions of ordinary citizens wealth and health in the process.

John Carter October 9, 2008 - 9:54pm

So now for them nothing but the Great Game matters, to bring their opponents low, even if they destroy millions of ordinary citizens wealth and health in the process.

but for many of them "ordinary citizens" just don't exist in their world with any more importance than machines and appliances. And people in the ghettoes and Third world are just trash that needs to be cleaned up. At least ordinary citizens serve a useful purpose as consumers whose savings can be ripped off and who can be pressed into debt servitude. In elite-speak, they are the "proles." The others play no useful role and all and just take up space and use resources. You know what they are called in elite-speak without my telling you.

Cynical? Perhaps. True? You decide.

tjfxh October 9, 2008 - 10:01pm

This won the Oscar for best animated short, 1990. And the trunk slides back and forth...

“The Playboy reader invites a female acquaintance in for a quiet discussion of Picasso, Nietzsche, jazz, sex.” - Hugh Hefner

Tonsure Wimple October 10, 2008 - 3:13am

paying all those NSA people to listen to tawdry sex calls.

Not like we needed regulators in the securities industry or anything.

Stirling Newberry October 9, 2008 - 9:56pm

what the hell have I been reading?

Actually, I would be most interested to hear what NSA has regarding certain contracts

jwp October 9, 2008 - 10:05pm

I suspect Nouriel Roubini is a tad worried.

...

This disconnect between more and more aggressive policy actions and easings and greater and greater strains in financial market is scary. When Bear Stearns’ creditors were bailed out to the tune of $30 bn in March the rally in equity, money and credit markets lasted eight weeks; when in July the US Treasury announced legislation to bail out the mortgage giants Fannie and Freddie the rally lasted four weeks; when the actual $200 billion rescue of these firms was undertaken and their $6 trillion liabilities taken over by the US government the rally lasted one day and by the next day the panic has moved to Lehman’s collapse; when AIG was bailed out to the tune of $85 billion the market did not even rally for a day and instead fell 5%. Next when the $700 billion US rescue package was passed by the US Senate and House markets fell another 7% in two days as there was no confidence in this flawed plan and the authorities. Next as authorities in the US and abroad took even more radical policy actions between October 6th and October 9th (payment of interest on reserves, doubling of the liquidity support of banks, extension of credit to the seized corporate sector, guarantees of bank deposits, plans to recapitalize banks, coordinated monetary policy easing, etc.) the stock markets and the credit markets and the money markets fell further and further and at an accelerated rates day after day all week including another 7% fall in U.S. equities today.

When in markets that are clearly way oversold even the most radical policy actions don’t provide rallies or relief to market participants you know that you are one step away from a market crack and a systemic financial sector and corporate sector collapse. A vicious circle of deleveraging, asset collapses, margin calls, cascading falls in asset prices well below falling fundamentals and panic is now underway.

At this point severe damage is done and one cannot rule out a systemic collapse and a global depression. It will take a significant change in leadership of economic policy and very radical, coordinated policy actions among all advanced and emerging market economies to avoid this economic and financial disaster. Urgent and immediate necessary actions that need to be done globally (with some variants across countries depending on the severity of the problem and the overall resources available to the sovereigns) include:

...

I did inhale.

Don October 9, 2008 - 10:22pm

Roubini is a must read.

Thanks for posting the breaking news, Don.

tjfxh October 9, 2008 - 11:36pm

A person knows when critical mass has been reached when his 87 year old mother recognizes that her small stock holding(20 shares Met Life) has lost 62% in value and is worried that her life insurance policy with Met will probably be worthless. She's been through one Great Depression and cannot believe she may experience another.

steelhead October 9, 2008 - 10:42pm

His Irrelevance, George W. Bush, is to address the nation tomorrow to "assure" Americans that every effort is being made to stabilize the financial markets.

Bush is expected to exhort Americans to "Stay Calm. All is Well." If this doesn't work, the White House has approached actor Kevin Bacon to reprise his role in Animal House, where he used the exact same words to still a panicky crowd.

Numerian October 9, 2008 - 10:53pm

As everyone now takes everything GWB says to mean its exact opposite, I do hope they string nets under all the obvious jumping places first.


"The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential."

- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Escher Sketch October 9, 2008 - 11:27pm

eom

tjfxh October 9, 2008 - 11:28pm

opening off 9.5% This is clearly being driven by larger traders who know not to let the circuit breakers get tripped.

Stirling Newberry October 10, 2008 - 3:26am

Where is the famous Plunge Protection Committee now?

Will the US stock market be closed today?

On Monday €-banks will receive as much short term money @3.75% as they can present collateral. Euribors are going down a little bit today.

Even if the risk for market reversal is high, it won't happen without a new government intervention in the USA. The TED-spread must start to melt simultaneously.

Usually the emergency speech of a president will contain only empty words. For background for his speech I recommend this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogG-n2FQcJ8

Singular October 10, 2008 - 6:17am

3cents in the dollar...

graham October 11, 2008 - 4:27am

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