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Irene Megahurricane Open Thread


(courtesy NASA)

“To be, or not to be, that is the question”

(older newsthread on Irene here)

42 comments to Irene Megahurricane Open Thread

  • Anonymous

    10:35 A.M. No Paywall for Hurricane Coverage

    As a public service there will be no paywall on hurricane coverage in the New York Times on the Web site or on any mobile apps.

    10:27 A.M. Pets May Ride in Taxis and Buses

    Taxis and all buses must take pets as passengers it was announced.

    ——–the Lede


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  • Bolo

    they’re really blowing this thing out of proportion. “Once in a century storm,” etc. Its a Category 1, with winds of 85 mph. The Northeast is used to those things–I rode out hurricane Bob in 1991 in Rhode Island, which was pretty much the same thing.

    Maybe I’ll be proven wrong and all the warnings on the Weather Channel of EXTREME DANGER and CATASTROPHE will actually look like genuine foresight. But right now it looks like nothing more than a strong Nor’Easter, coming up from the South, with a bit of storm surge.

  • Jonathryn

    Fox News coverage providing conclusive evidence that climate change is a hoax because of blizzards.

    I’m not seeing the video embed in the preview but here goes:

  • Lex

    If the Weather Channel, et. al. don’t hype the shit out of this, the whole country won’t tune in with the hope of seeing a natural disaster unfold in real time.

    Won’t someone think of the advertising revenue!?

  • Doug Richardson

    Hysteria puts “fannies in the seats” as George Steinbrenner used to say. If they scare you shitless, you’ll tune in more frequently and watch longer.

    “Lord! What Fools these Mortals be!”

  • Tina

    LATimes – The first two deaths from Hurricane Irene, and a potential third, were reported in North Carolina on Saturday morning as the slow-moving storm raked the eastern half of the state, spawning tornadoes and knocking out power to more than 200,000 people.

    A man in Nash County, N.C., was reported killed by a falling tree limb outside his home Saturday morning, local authorities said. On Friday, a man installing plywood on the window of his home in Onslow County, N.C., died of a heart attack, said Ernie Seneca of the North Carolina Emergency Management office in Raleigh.

    View Hurricane Irene track forecast in a larger mapbut Harrell said it would not be considered a rescue mission.

    “It is now more of a recovery mission,” she said.

    Details of the incidents were sketchy Saturday, and others may soon come: Irene made landfall at Cape Lookout, N.C., at 7:30 a.m. as a Category 1 storm. In coastal Morehead City, the front line of winds whipped through in the early morning, followed by a lull of a couple of hours, and then what appears to be a much more intense lashing from the hurricane’s back end, which was ongoing at noon Eastern time.

    As Irene roared slowly up the wide Pamlico Sound on Saturday morning, it was pushing out huge volumes of water that flooded roads and knocked down power lines. At least 225,000 people were without power, “and that number is going to rise as the day goes on,” Seneca said.

    Several tornadoes were believed to have touched down late Friday and early Saturday, damaging three structures in Washington County, N.C., and knocking a mobile home off its foundation in Belhaven, N.C., near the coast. Another possible tornado damaged a waste-water plant and seven homes in Tyrrell County, N.C., Seneca said.

    Eastern North Carolina remained under a tornado watch Saturday morning.

    The state faced a long day of high winds and severe flooding as Irene, chugging at just 14 miles an hour, headed northward. North Carolina opened 81 shelters for some 7,500 evacuees, Seneca said. “We’re expecting hurricane force winds throughout the day, then tropical force winds overnight,” Seneca said.

    Bands of high winds and heavy rains buffeted the northern Outer Banks overnight and throughout the morning Saturday. The town of Manteo, on Roanoke Island, a few miles west of Nags Head on the Outer Banks, lies directly in the path of the storm.

    Forecasters predicted storm surges of five to nine feet and rainfall of six to 10 inches -– 15 inches in some places -– as the back end of the storm forces water out of Pamlico Sound and back across Roanoke Island and Outer Banks beaches.

    North Carolina Gov. Beverly Perdue warned residents to stay indoors and avoid the temptation to drive around and check the progress of the storm.

    “We’ve had reports of folks who are beginning to venture out,” Perdue told reporters. “You endanger your safety and the safety of the first responders who might come and try to rescue you.”

    In North Carolina’s southeastern counties, however, there was already an emerging sense that worst-case scenarios had been avoided, at least locally, even though tens of thousands of residents were without power. Populous New Hanover County was being battered Saturday morning by tropical storm-force winds -– winds just below hurricane force, at 57 to 74 mph –- but Harrell said those winds were expected to abate by 1 p.m. or 2 p.m.

    Damage countywide has been “minimal,” she said, although 55% of county residents are without power.

    In general, she said, “We’re all very happy.”

  • creativelcro

    “A man in Nash County, N.C., was reported killed by a falling tree limb outside his home Saturday morning, local authorities said. On Friday, a man installing plywood on the window of his home in Onslow County, N.C., died of a heart attack, said Ernie Seneca of the North Carolina Emergency Management office in Raleigh.”

    This is stretching it! First, he might have had a heart attack anyway. Second, the storm was not even there yet, so how could be claimed that it was the storm? It’s like saying that some guy got so scared about thinking about the coming storm that he committed suicide…

  • Jelco Cathlon

    Ok it covers a big area, but it is a category 1 hurricane.
    Think the mainstream media is hyping it to much; unless something big politically is comming. But IMHO, Irene is only the pretext to do a good run-down of emergency measures. Well better do it during a small event than a Katrina one.

  • creativelcro

    If nothing happens next time people will not pay attention. Perhaps when a big one hits.

  • Lex

    Lulz…i didn’t realize that a stack of unmortared cinder blocks constitutes a foundation.

  • Tina

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/6083128930/

    I don’t blame them for being better safe than sorry

  • Tina

    August 27, 2011 | 12:34 pm

    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said authorities will make a “last-ditch effort” to evacuate roughly 600 senior citizens who live in Atlantic City high-rises and are refusing to leave as Hurricane Irene bears down on the coastal city.

    Atlantic City is under a mandatory evacuation order, but Christie acknowledged that if residents decline to heed the order, he cannot force them. He acknowledged that the problem “is our big concern.”

    Speaking on television and addressing his remarks to the reluctant residents Saturday afternoon, Christie said: “You’re correct that I cannot make you leave your home and I certainly do not intend to place you under arrest to get you to leave. But if you stay where you are, you’re putting yourself in danger as well as your loved ones.”

    Christie said the state had activated a plan to send local and state police to the high-rises to talk to the residents and persuade them to go to a shelter to ride out the storm and be returned to their homes after Irene passes. The state also is sending buses to circulate in front of the buildings and pick up residents who decide to leave, though Christie said the buses will stop coming as the storm moves in and winds pick up.

    PHOTOS: In the path of Hurricane Irene

    “There’s going to come a point in time later this evening when we will not be able to move you and you will have to ride out the storm,” Christie said, adding that “will not be a pleasant experience.”

    Despite reports that Irene had weakened slightly, Christie said the hurricane remains on an “ominous track” for New Jersey, and that state officials expect “six to 12 inches of rain throughout the state … and extraordinary damage to the barrier islands.”

    more

  • Anonymous

    and we all know what happened

  • Tina

    he shouldn’t try to talk seriously while he is smiling :)

  • Bolo

    hits New York in a month and people don’t prepare because this one was all hype. The boy who cried wolf.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmichaels/2011/08/26/get-real-hurricane-irene-should-be-renamed-hurricane-hype/

  • hvd

    This is also a great political opportunity for those two showmen, Bloomberg and Christie.

  • nymole

    I used to run around as a kid in Rockaway Beach,NY in hurricanes and it was great.

    But I will never
    forget those poor people trapped by Katrina shown on the BBC documentary.


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  • Anonymous

    The Virginian-Pilot, August 27

    Live Blogging

    7:45 PM: Norfolk officials are reporting a storm surge of just over 8 feet at the downtown flood gate.

    City spokesman Bob Batcher said that’s about the surge size that occurred during Hurricane Isabel eight years ago.

    7:00 PM
    A storm surge height of about 4.6 feet has been observed at Oregon Inlet, N.C., and a storm surge height of about 4 feet has occurred so far at the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay.

    2:30 p.m., North Carolina
    A gust at Ocracoke was recorded at 110 mph, according Jamie Tunnel, spokeswoman for Hyde County.

    Via TPM Live Wire


    Also WaPo Live Blogging: Hurricane Irene: Delware, North Carolina, Washington, Maryland, Virginia live dispatches
    CNET: Storm tracker: Sites for following hurricanes
    Philadelphia: ABC11 TV
    New York: ABC 6
    Did you know? The Mayor of Philadelphia is named Michael Nutter.
    @TheSpinGuru reports that the East River has just crested its banks. (6:50 PM ET)

    New York Daily News: Storm Tracker: Hurricane Irene 2011 Live Blogging

    8:57 PMLauren JohnstonTORNADO WATCH in NYC until 5 a.m. for the following counties: Bronx, Kings, Nassau, New York, Queens, Richmond, Rockland, Suffolk, Westchester. All New York advisories HERE.

    TORNADO WARNING in ATALANTIC CITY until 9:15 p.m. National Weather Service radar shows a thunderstorm that could produce a tornado near Longport, seven miles south of Atlantic City.

    Automatically generated NY tweets:Hurricane Irene Info for New York


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  • Raja

    Richmond Times-Dispatch, By Katherine Calos, August 27

    Downed trees, dangling power lines, darkened street lights, damaging winds and a deluge defined Hurricane Irene’s brush with the Richmond area.

    Almost 75 percent of Dominion Virginia Power’s Richmond/Tri Cities area customers – 363,000 of 491,000 – are without power as of 8 p.m. Dominion said earlier today that it plans to make repairs when the conditions are safe for its crews.

    By 6 p.m., the city had pulled its work crews off the roads as conditions deteriorated with wind gusts approaching 60 mph. Richmond’s street lights were turned off for the night because damage to poles and exposed wires created an electrical shock hazard.

    [...]

    “We’re still getting reports every two minutes of new trees coming down,” said Michael Wallace, a spokesman for the city of Richmond. “We have more than 100 trees down. Every couple of minutes… you get another couple phone calls with more trees down into houses, streets, cars, all over the place.”


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  • yogi-one

    Everybody have a good time! Yay!

    OK I’m bored…onto the next completely made-up media crisis…

  • Anonymous

    Hey guys I cleaned up these wiki pages a tiny bit.. check it:
    http://www.miiu.org/wiki/Hurricane_Preparations
    http://www.miiu.org/wiki/Hurricane_Preparedness
    Probably a bit late to be very useful for Irene but it’s good info.

    Hongpong.com

  • Tina

    Hurricane Irene churns its way north; 8 dead
    August 27, 2011 | 6:33 pm

    8 16

    Hurricane Irene, a ferocious and slow-moving storm, smashed into North Carolina on Saturday morning, then slowly swirled its way up the Eastern Seaboard, flooding low-lying areas, knocking out power to as many as 1 million customers and forcing the densely populated regions of Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., and New York City to take unprecedented steps as they braced for impact.

    At least eight people are known to have died as a result of the storm in North Carolina, Virginia and Florida.

    Irene is expected to continue its northward path through New England before weakening early Sunday morning. The youngest victim, an 11-year-old boy, was killed when a tree crashed through his apartment building in Newport News, Va.

    more
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/08/hurricane-irene-8-deaad-.html

  • creativelcro

    It’s as if these people did not get the memo from the TV networks!

  • Anonymous

    as in this photo sent to WNYC by user yfrog

    No, I’m wrong- there is a certain windiness around the area of Guardian reporter tweets:

    “mattseaton: Oh crap. Gust of wind of #irene through narrowly open window in bathroom just blew my radio into the toilet. Luckily, I have another (radio)”


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  • creativelcro

    “mattseaton: Oh crap, I like to make stuff up ‘cuz nothing worth reporting is happening?” Just saying…

  • skipper ian

    this become The Cynicist?

  • Jelco Cathlon

    Irene aftermath.
    Extreme sunshine in all regions, DO NOT EXPOSE YOURSELF to deadly UV rays, stay indoor.the risk of cancer is extreme. Please stay tuned to CNN for the deadly sunny days to come,
    ( Just joking, of course)
    Is the weather the new media hysteria, Blowing things out of proportions is the most dangerous thing that can happenned; Of course may be Obama wants to privatise NOAA,

  • yogi-one

    Well Irene was not a disaster, but it did contain some lessons:

    1. the deaths and extensive flooding and damage in North Carolina shows that even a Cat 1 hurricane can inflict serious damage.

    2. I think we are seeing a trend – yes, due to global warming (which is causing the surface temperatures of the Atlantic to rise). The trend is that even less intense storms are going to be bigger – Irene, despite being only Cat 1 at landfall in the Northeast, still had close to a 500-mile diameter.

    3. Also, increased moisture of storm systems is a near-universal prediction of global climate change models, and this of course, means that even hurricanes with less intense windspeeds will be moving more water around. Hence the massive flooding and relatively large storm surges from Irene, even in NYC, where the windspeeds were only of tropical storm strength.

    Of course, as all denialists are over-rehearsed to yell at this point – no single event can be definitively linked to AGW – there are some caveats.

    Irene hit VA and NJ coincident with high-tide, which increased the effect of the storm surge.

    There was also a weather phenomenon called “wind-shear” happening along the coastal US which probably had the effect of keeping Irene from building energy as it moved up along the coast.

    Nevertheless, what I am thinking, is that we are seeing an overall pattern of these storms becoming wetter, and larger in size due to increased moisture in the atmosphere.

    And of course, if this were January, a storm system of similar size would be dumping tons of snow along it’s path. This is, of course, exactly what we have been seeing in the past few winters both in the US and Europe.

    This overall trend of warming global temperature averages, and bigger, wetter storm systems are consistent with AGW modeling.

    The big droughts we have been seeing inland are too, but that’s a subject for another post.

  • Jonathryn

    Here’s a picture from my bathroom window. A tree has blocked the road. I think it’s technically on city property but if it’s not . . . ugh.

    Tree damage

  • nymole

    but after all, Irene could have been a contender, and then we’d be
    upset at what happened.

    It’s funny, now that New York City is
    officially out of the zone, we’re continuing to have gusts of winds that are much more powerful than when it was raining.


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  • nymole

    today,
    from Kos: In Memorium, Brother Bayard, which took me out of the Irene zone.


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  • nymole

    eom


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  • mcgrande

    As communication is restored many will be suprised at the damage done.
    I remember Tom Brokaw from New Orleans after Katrina saying, “It appears New Orleans has dodged a bullet.” When he said that after the storm the wide spread damage was yet unknown. Let us see how wimpy Irene really was.

  • quiet Bill

    Kunstler – The same creeping nausea that followed the CNN ‘all clear’ sign in New Orleans six years ago happened again yesterday. Anderson Cooper seemed a little peeved that the lights didn’t go out in Manhattan, but then the remnants of Hurricane Irene stomped up the Hudson Valley and stalled a while and commenced to rip apart the Catskills, the eastern Adirondacks, the Mohawk and upper Hudson valleys, and then almost all of Vermont, not to mention New Hampshire and western Massachusetts, and I can’t even tell you much about whatever’s going on in Pennsylvania, Virginia, Delaware, and Maryland this morning. Connecticut, Long Island, and Rhode Island are in there somewhere, and surely there’s more than a few things out of place in North Carolina.
    This is nowhere near Katrina’s death toll of over 1800 souls, but the damage to scores of towns, businesses, houses, and basic civic armature is going to be very impressive as the news filters in later this week and the disaster is still very much ongoing Monday, even with the sun shining bright. Towns all over Vermont and New Hampshire are still drowning. The Hudson River is still on the rise. The Mohawk River is at a 500-year flood stage and is about to wipe the old city center of Schenectady, New York, off the map. Bridges, dams, and roads are gone over a region at least as big as the Gulf Coast splatter-trail of Katrina.
    That story is still developing. A lot of people will not be able to get around for a long, long time, especially in Vermont and New Hampshire, where the rugged terrain only allows for a few major roads that go anywhere. Even the bridges that were not entirely washed away may have to be inspected before people are allowed to drive over them, and some of these bridges may be structurally shot even if they look superficially okay. There are a lot of them. If you live in a flat state, you may have no idea.
    The next story is going to be the realization that there’s no money to put it all back together the way it was. The states don’t have the money. The federal government is obviously broke, and an awful lot of the individual households and businesses will turn out to not have any insurance coverage for this kind of disaster where it was water, not wind, that destroyed the property.

    …continued at link

  • nymole

    by Matt Zoller Seitz

    In case you thought the TV news business wasn’t well aware that it thrives on fear, a local anchor confirmed it during Hurricane Irene coverage yesterday morning. Chuck Scarborough, the anchor of local New York affiliate WNBC, was talking about the importance of evacuating the coastal Manhattan neighborhood of Battery Park City even though, by that point in the Irene narrative, it was clear that the storm wasn’t going to hit the city as hard as some experts originally thought. When Scarborough finished talking, his guest, Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy, joked, “I thought I was just listening to the Oracle of Doom.”

    “We’re in the news business,” Scarborough said wryly. “We deal in doom.”

    complete article here


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  • Tina

    afp
    WASHINGTON: Hurricane Irene is being blamed for at least 40 deaths in 11 eastern US states and Canada, officials and local media said Monday, as Vermont and upstate New York suffered disastrous flooding.

    The toll includes six dead each in New Jersey, New York state and North Carolina, five in Pennsylvania, four in Virginia, three in Vermont, two each in Connecticut, Delaware and Florida, and one each in Maryland and Massachusetts.

    One man in Canada, whose car plunged into a chasm after the road was washed away, and another person in Vermont whose companion also perished were missing presumed dead after being swept away by floodwaters, police said.

    Most of the fatalities were caused by falling trees, road accidents, or people being swept away by floodwater as Irene, now downgraded to a post-tropical cyclone over Canada, wreaked havoc up the eastern seaboard.

    The youngest fatalities were an 11-year-old boy killed by a falling tree in his apartment on the Virginia coast and a 15-year-old girl who died in a car accident in North Carolina when the traffic lights failed.

    Six deaths were being blamed on Irene in New York state, including a man who was electrocuted as he tried to save a child who had gone into a flooded street with downed wires.

    Another of the fatalities was a 68-year-old father-of-13 resident of the Bronx who was found dead in the water after he went to check on his boat in the marina.

    Massachusetts reported its first death on Monday: a man electrocuted by a downed power line, emergency management spokesman Scott MacLeod told AFP.

    A New Jersey rescuer died in hospital of injuries sustained on Sunday when he was swept away by floodwaters in Princeton. He had been on life support and was prematurely announced as dead on Sunday by Governor Chris Christie.

    More fatalities are feared after Irene barrelled up the east coast late Sunday into the densely populated northeastern states of Connecticut, Vermont, Rhode Island and Massachusetts, and then on into Canada, dumping heavy rains.

    Millions of people in the United States were still without power and officials warned that flood damage from the massive storm’s heavy rains may be felt for days.

    Irene earlier last week left at least five people dead in the Caribbean, including one in the US territory of Puerto Rico and two each in the Dominican Republic and Hai

  • Tina

    MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) — National Guard helicopters began taking food and water Tuesday to Vermont towns cut off by flooding after the rainy remnants of Hurricane Irene took inland areas of New England and upstate New York by surprise.

    Also:
    – FEMA Running Low on Aid, Relief
    —————————

    Vermont Emergency Management spokesman Mark Bosma said the helicopters would bring relief to people in about a dozen towns where roads and bridges were washed out, including Cavendish, Hancock, Pittsfield, Stockbridge, Strafford and Stratton.

    Officials also used heavy-duty National Guard vehicles to reach towns where roads may be passable.

    In a deluge that caught many communities off guard, Irene dumped up to 11 inches of rain in some places in Vermont, turning placid mountain streams into roaring brown torrents that smashed buildings and ripped homes from their foundations. At least three people died in Vermont.

    Small towns in upstate New York – especially in the Catskills and the Adirondacks – were also besieged by floodwaters.

    More than 2.5 million people from North Carolina to Maine were still without electricity Tuesday, three days after the hurricane churned up the Eastern Seaboard.

    All together, the storm has been blamed for at least 40 deaths in 11 states.

    While all eyes were on the coast as Irene churned northward, some of the worst destruction took place well inland, away from the storm’s most punishing winds. In landlocked Vermont, Gov. Peter Shumlin called it the worst flooding in a century.

    Approximately 260 roads in Vermont were closed because of storm damage, along with about 30 highway bridges.

    “We always had that truism that said `Yup, yah can’t get there from here.’ In fact, that’s come to pass down here,” said Newfane Town Clerk Gloria Cristelli. “There are certain pockets where you can’t get there from here, at least not by a car.”

    more
    http://www.abc6onyourside.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wsyx_vid_13071.shtml

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