More Administrative Orders


The Bush administration has just put out an administrative order which:

The Bush administration announced a new tool Tuesday to freeze financial assets of those who want to destabilize Iraq.

President Bush unveiled a new executive order that allows the administration to block bank accounts and any other financial assets that might be found in this country belonging to people, companies or groups that the United States deems are working to threaten stability in Iraq.

Bush cited the "unusual and extraordinary threat" to national security and foreign policy of the United States "posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people."...

...The administration already has tools to clamp down financially on people, companies and groups that seek to bankroll terrorist activities or help funds specific terror groups, such as al-Qaeda and Hezbollah. The United States also has financial sanctions against countries accused of fostering terrorism, such as Iran.

Questions for any legal beagles or amateur beagles:

Legal beagles - this executive order allowing the Pres to freeze any accounts by anyone (so far as I can tell) the administration figures is making the Iraq war worse....(article below)

1) is this legal?

2) If so, how so (under what law, or power)?

3) If not, is this another case of executive overrach?

Bonus question: am I alone in being disturbed by penalties being constantly applied without people having their day in court?

Observation: this sort of thing is the main reason countries like Venezuela, Iran and Russia are stopping selling their oil in dollars and are removing their assets from the US. (And is one reason why many individuals are doing the same). That isn't even close to good for the US. In fact it is very, very, very bad.

Schecter's place discusses, nut 'graph:

According to this, legally, even members of Congress can be cut off financially if they "undermine" (however the Homeland Decider decides to define "undermine") "efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform". If the King says you have messed with what he wants to do with Iraq, his majesty and his royal Secretaries of Treasury, State, and Defense can do away with you.

UPDATED BELOW

According to a couple lawyers I discussed this with - probably legal and maybe constitional. Uses the same authority as Executive Order 13224, the one used to crack down on terrorist finances passed right after 9/11. Congress has given him pretty much the authority he needs.

The reasoning on due process is that they're only taking your money, not locking you up and that the President is due a lot of leeway on secret information that courts can't know about. This is similiar to closing an unsanitary restaurant, or other emergency orders meant to safeguard the public - fix it now, go to court later.

Of course, in most of those cases, you get to see the evidence and even sue for damages if you were wrongfully harmed. Still... Bush's order may well be legal.

This appears to be a place where knowing a little law and a little civics is dangerous.

I always thought that people accused of a crime couldn't be punished without

1) being charged
2) having their day in court in a reasonably timely manner
3) being able to face their accuser and see the evidence agaisnt them.
4) without a jury of their peers ruling against them in significant cases (Having all your money frozen seems significant)

I recognize that these sorts of laws aren't new (I used to help enforce them at my old employer, a large American financial institution) but they seem to me really fundamentally against due process.

And yet, somehow, they're all over the place (especially in the case of laws used ostensibly against drug offenders)

Am I the only one bothered by this?

So, to recap, what I'm getting from the lawyers is it's probably perfectly legal for Bush to seize anyone's property, on effectively his own word (Secretaries who stand against Bush don't last, as we know) with no effective repeal to the court system.

The difference between this and a King, I assume, is that America elects her President every 4 years and theoretically Congress could do something.

And this isn't really a partisan issue - this stuff started long before Bush.


Ian Welsh July 18, 2007 - 6:50pm
( categories: Iraq | USA: Presidency )

Another political witch hunt. If they wanted to do something about it they'd have pumped an Uzi clip into Chalabi one year into the occupation.

Lesly July 18, 2007 - 10:13pm

And while we're on the topic, why only one magazine?

Not that I detest the man, or anything.

"When intelligence producers realize that there is no sense in forwarding to a consumer knowledge which does not correspond to his preconceptions, then intelligence is through." ~ Sherman Kent

JustPlainDave July 19, 2007 - 10:55am

that now we have examples of unfettered use of executive power ... while this sort of thing is not new, I think we americans always assumed that there would be an uproar or something about egregious acts by a prez ... now we know differently.

cf Padilla

Siun July 19, 2007 - 12:28am

IANAL, but this is really (along with the drug and tax seizure laws) tantamount to a writ of attainder.

Is anybody working on the American Revolution grievances checklist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writ_of_attainder

One more high crime for the impeachment lists.

NateTG July 19, 2007 - 10:53am

Do you suppose George Soros is a possible target?

"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
The only proof he needed for the existence of God was music."
-Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country

jumpinin July 19, 2007 - 11:20am

Carter froze Iranian assets way back in 1979. It's generally been held (since before the US existed) that seizing the asset of foreigners is acceptable during wartime or just general hostilities.

Further, a Democratic Congress passed RICO with its full panapoly of asset seizure rules back during the Reagan administration. [*] That was only partially rolled back during the 90's (specifically, they can't sell the assets before trial but they can hold they, potentially preventing defendents from mounting an effective defense).

In this instance, the real change is that he's gone and issued an executive order instead of getting direct approval from Congress, and he's applied to oh, anybody. (Although it is ostensibly based on the same notion as listing an organization as a supporter of terrorism.) He's following usual Bush administration pattern of cobbling together existing precendent in new and entirely unconstitutional ways; they'll attempt to get it past the Supremes based on 'compelling public interest' which is the current version of a constitutional escape hatch.

I'm pretty sure that if the Constitution were ever enforced as written, this would be right out (along with a lot of other things). I expect the only way they'll actually get into trouble over this is if they start using it to harass Democrats.

m, normal people will just get screwed

[*] This sort of thing is why D's keep getting hosed in elections (on average); if neither party supports/upholds rule of law or any of those other nice principles, then the only choice is between the strong horse and the weak horse, and the D's are the weak horse. See Hillary Clinton.

max July 19, 2007 - 2:56pm

Paul Craig Roberts gives another way of looking at this Executive Order from today's Thom Hartmann Show on Air America.

Here is Roberts' column at Counterpunch.

Unless Congress immediately impeaches Bush and Cheney, a year from now the US could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran.

Bush has put in place all the necessary measures for dictatorship in the form of "executive orders" that are triggered whenever Bush declares a national emergency. Recent statements by Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff, former Republican senator Rick Santorum and others suggest that Americans might expect a series of staged, or false flag, "terrorist" events in the near future.

LJ July 20, 2007 - 12:26am

All the necessary pieces have been in place for a while, yes. We'll see if Bush has the guts and the necessary support to both try it and succeed.

The question, of course, is "who'd stand up to him?"

We'll see if the pavlovian "anti-terror" stuff still works on enough Americans.

Ian Welsh July 20, 2007 - 12:51am

Bush administration officials unveiled a bold new assertion of executive authority yesterday in the dispute over the firing of nine U.S. attorneys, saying that the Justice Department will never be allowed to pursue contempt charges initiated by Congress against White House officials once the president has invoked executive privilege.

Gordon July 20, 2007 - 1:11am

inherent contempt. It's time.

Ian Welsh July 20, 2007 - 1:40am

...how to do a general strike. Or at least a tax strike (anyone still employed should download a new W-4).

Gordon July 20, 2007 - 1:44am

Bush now has the power to shut down the Democratic candidates. He can freeze their election funds, and he can prevent them from flying by putting them on the no-fly list. Both actions are without appeal now. I wonder if this is why the Pentagon attacked Hillary the other day. Moving to establish the legal precedents to move against her and the others.

jonbrown July 20, 2007 - 1:04pm

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