Angry public reaction to obvious voting fraud? What better reason for Bush43 to now have new legal authority to use troops to quell any public disorder he deems exists, regardless of whether or not local authorities request assistance.

David Bier
CADRE Intel Mgr
techadvisor@helloworld.com
http://groups.google.com/group/publicintel

Well, it's quite simple, if fraud and massive fraud is proven from the repukes, you do as they do in every banana republic, buy a kalashnikov and start an second american revolution, hey may be Cuba and Venezuela will come to help you.
But after all, may be the US is getting what it deserves although I personnally think that no one deserve what the americans might get if those bums from Bush-Rove Inc. win this one.
I do pitty your country and your citizens, but being so stubbornly yankee as not to heed a planetary call will get you in a helluva predicament.
Good luck and go vote.

As Ian pointed out earlier, the government either has to run out of money or be defeated in a war. This is the historical pattern. If revolution was as easy as the previous commentators indicated, it would happen much more often.

That said, I agree with Ian that we can agree that if the Republicans hold the House, its due to fraud. I was just at the excellent Predict '06 website (www.predict06.com), and I tried to give the Republicans the benefit of the doubt in each close race. I just couldn't put together enough upsets for them to keep control of Congress. The problem is that they are on the defensive in too many places, and in too many different places. They may hold the suburban "soccer Mom" districts that trended Democratic during Clinton's presidency, but still elected Republicans; they may hold on in the Rust Belt; they may hold on in the libertarian Mountain states; and they may hold more of their members embroilled in scandals than anticipated. But to hold the House they have to do well enough in all four categories and I don't see how that can happen. The Rust Belt districts in Ohio, western Pennsylvania, upstate New York and Indiana will probably trend very differently from the suburban districts in eastern Pennsylvania, downstate New York, New Hampshire, and Connecticut (they've done in the past). The Republicans should exceed expectations in one group of these districts, but not the other.

If I were Karl Rove, I would be drawing up lists of Democrats who could be induced into switching parties in the next few months. But given the preference for brutal and stupid we've seen in our national leaders, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to use fraud instead.

Pray to your God that things will improve according to your Bible.
Or Bush and Cheney both die of heart attacks.
Wishful thinking!

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at this juncture I hope you are very, very wrong. Tomorrow night will tell. But this is way too dark a vision of the US than I am willing to accept although there is some truth in all of the elements you cite.

Google video source, if Throw Away Your TV becomes unavailable..

Hacking Democracy (HBO Special)

This timely, cautionary documentary exposes gaping holes in the security of America's electronic voting system.
1 hr 21 min 55 sec (but watch some of it, anyway.)

Like Oregon does. Ballots may also be dropped off at various sites (gets rid of the "poll tax" argument). Voting starts two weeks before election (counting) day and frustrates the hell out of big campaign spenders. It's cheaper. Since ballots are a permanent paper record, it's much harder to manipulate totals--and there's plenty of time to request a new one should one's ballot go missing or is damaged.

Essentially, all voters cast absentee ballots.