Ken Lay Dies of a Heart Attack


And CNN at least is eulogizing him. Nice old avuncular guy who didn't know what was happening, etc, etc...

I know it's generally considered bad taste to pile on a man on the day of his death, if for no other reason than to spare his family. But let's get real here - he was either astonishingly incompetent, or he was a crook who damn near bankrupted California with illegal price fixing, and left thousands of employees broke and without a pension. A lot of people are living in poverty, doing without the medications and support they need, because of Ken Lay.

He lived in luxury on money he didn't deserve, stolen from people who couldn't afford to lose it. He died in a vacation home in Aspen. And now he won't ever do time in jail to pay for what he did.

I wish his soul mercy, and I believe in forgiveness, especially at the end of one's life when we must look back over the wash of years and see how we sold our souls a penny at a time for the golden dross that means nothing in the end. But I don't believe in whitewashing a man or woman's sins. They are what they are, and Ken Lay of all men, has great sins to be forgiven. It is respectful of no one to tell lies of the dead.


Ian Welsh July 5, 2006 - 10:38am

I'm sure none of the thousands of lives he ruined wish Kenny-Boy's demonic soul "mercy" or "forgivness", and I'm sure he feels right at home in Hell.

TimeWave 0 July 5, 2006 - 12:40pm

this would be a good time to use some of his wealth to help those he hurt. His family doesn't need a home in Aspen and the proceeds of its sale could be used to start a fund to help those he screwed.

Whitened Sepulchres

dejah thoris July 5, 2006 - 1:14pm

Lay's wife was pleading poverty just a few years ago:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/enron/story/0,,641092,00.html

...and he died at a vacation home in Aspen? Some folks have a really strange idea of what it means to be poor. I guess that now that Mr. Lay's gone on to his reward, lawsuits will have to be filed against the estate. It's just too bad that the estate tax repeal didn't get passed...

Petronius July 5, 2006 - 1:17pm

"Say, Grandma Millie, how do you feel about Ken Lay dying?"

"What's that, Ken Lay's dead?"

"Yeah, Grandma, he died of a heart attack."

"Gracious sakes, does that mean I'll get my fucking money back for all the power Enron charged right up, jammed right up my ass for fucking $250 a megawatt hour?" [from Enron employees recorded boasting]

"No granny, sorry it doesn't. Bush is still president."

"Fuck him, then. Hope his ass fries in Hell."

"Gee granny, that seems kinda harsh."

"Good riddance to bad rubbish, and watch out for the Nixon man."

"Nixon's dead, too, actually."

"Eh, you think so? Look at the world, young man..."

"Death before being dishonored any more." - Col. Ted Westhusing

Jimbo92107 July 5, 2006 - 1:40pm

Bet ya we'll talk about Lay the way we talk about Marylynn Monroe, was he/she assasinated by the govt. cause they knew too much.
On the other hand, may be it's a simulated death and the guy went to France to get a face change.
Them bastards, they never really get what they deserve.

Jelco Cathlon July 5, 2006 - 1:52pm

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Mark July 5, 2006 - 8:50pm

some other professionals agree with me that a likely reason he had a massive heart attack is the build up of atherosclerosis on the inside of his coronary arteries due to stress, which, it is well documented, can happen in a matter of WEEKS. the stress, it is my contention, happened due to the fact he got CAUGHT and was found GUILTY, and justice was served. altho the harmed yes, did not get redress or restoration, which might have happened if he had one nano-ounce of personal integrity and pleaded guilty, instead of mealy-mouthing around after his conviction. more's the pity.

"who would Jesus bomb?"

bernadene July 5, 2006 - 2:28pm

Thanks Ken Lay for making sure that Enron collapsed before they could support:
Privatizing everyone's drinking water
Build hundreds of gas fired power plants without sufficient gas to fire them
Destroying air, water, and scenery in countless rural communities across the US
Use rate payers in every market in the US to pay special fees to expand the grid for Enron's follies.

and thanks Ken because Enron's collapse nearly bankrupted every power producer in the country some of whom are the lowest of the low when it comes to corrupting local government officials in the places where they do business.

We can only guess what you and Cheney had planned if your company still existed and I'm pretty sure Americans will not miss it.

We want one class to have a liberal education. We want another class, a very much larger class of necessity, to forgo the privilege of a liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks. - Woodrow Wilson

Joaquin July 5, 2006 - 3:25pm

Any news on who verified the authenticity of the body?

It just occured to me that there is no reason to believe that he is really dead. Spending the rest of your life in jail is quite an incentive to hatch a plot to disappear. And I have a feeling that he isn't as financially spent as he claims to be.

Of course, if they have verified the authenticity of the body, and haven't rushed it off for cremation then I am more likely to believe that he suddenly dropped dead. After all, did he have a history of heart problems? Couldn't they save him? We do live in medically modern techno world? Just wondering out loud...

emma11 July 5, 2006 - 6:43pm

the Richness Protection Program.

Escher Sketch July 5, 2006 - 7:04pm

I am beginning to wonder too.
He is too rich to die. He is too well connected to die.
Bush liked him. Bad sign.
Is there a Pacific island for dead CEO's to hide on? Where their millions are worth much more?
Think about it!

repressive governments mix administrative clumsiness & inefficiency with authoritarian tendencies.

kimmy July 5, 2006 - 9:02pm

that people who say there is no difference in our political parties are correct. I have noticed recently that as the dems feel more empowered and optimistic I see the left blogosphere behaving more and more like the right wing bloggers and posters . Two wrongs don't make a right and this type of behavior is beneath us.

dkos

Tina July 8, 2006 - 12:42pm

or publicize the wrangling of my inner voices when I'm arguing with myself solving a problem or wrestling with my conscience. It's not important that the world hear those voices.

But the blogosphere thinks everything out loud. All of its inner dialogue is text.

Nor have I ever felt that this inner dialogue diminishes me - it's only upon what emerges that I may be judged, and I feel no guilt over having the occasional homicidal impulse in traffic or fleeting fantasy about giving my child a stiff rap on the head with a stick after three requests to turn down the TV - if the urge is not translated into consensus action. Identifying inner voices as being vicious or kind is vastly less important than the consensus formed at the end of the process.

The thread you're linking to strikes me as a compensation thread where a "conscience" voice is gathering consensus for compassion in this situation - ironically the thread is the healthiest and more compassionate part. It sounds to me like part of an unfinished process of cognition and we need to wait until Johnny Blogosphere stops pondering and opens his mouth to tell us what he believes one way or the other, or if he's still a bit conflicted - just as we might say "I have mixed feelings about it" upon hearing of the death of an antagonist.

God help any of us if our inner dialogue was directly hooked up to a loudspeaker, lest we all be judged on our process rather than our action, before we've reached internal consensus. I dunno, maybe you're all better people than me internally and your inner voices would fare better if exposed.

Does anyone know if there are similarly good examples of "conscience threads" on, say, Free Republic or LGF, bucking the prevailing wisdom by harshly criticizing a right-wing schadenfreude moment?

Escher Sketch July 8, 2006 - 1:33pm

at Free Republic or LGF have consciences. lol All I'm saying is the behavior of some on the left is starting to resembles the same behavior we distained from the right. I don't think it makes us look good and doesn't advance gaining support for democratic positions or candidates. Don't you think posting on the internet is like having a loudspeaker?

For the most part I don't post my inner voices, SP would prolly have to ban me. :D

Tina July 8, 2006 - 5:20pm

Candy,

I never knew Ken Lay or of him until his company stole thousands of dollars from me. He was the head thief. I have never been repaid, I will never be repaid and I will not be allowed to deduct the loss from my taxes. Yet it was not just me that lost money, it was millions of others. My electricity bill went from $185 a month to $900 in just one month because Enron was robbing me and millions of other electricity consumers in California. The electricity outages that his company caused bankrupted the company I was working for and caused me to be layed-off. I am sorry that his family has a loss; it must be terrible for them but that does not change the fact that he is a dead scumbag.

Joaquin

We want one class to have a liberal education. We want another class, a very much larger class of necessity, to forgo the privilege of a liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks. - Woodrow Wilson

Joaquin July 9, 2006 - 1:13am

No it doesn't change the fact that he was a scumbag and I did not mean to minimize in anyway anything that he did. Maybe I should have choose a different example to show what I have been seeing happening on different sites. I in no way meant to offend you or anyone that Lay's actions affected.

Tina July 9, 2006 - 9:52am

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