Vichy Democrats, Lieberman and Progressives


Lieberman is facing a stiff opposition challenge for one reason and one reason only. It's not, as much of the corporate press has been suggesting, just because he's pro-war. It's because he spends all his time agreeing with Republican and compromising with Republicans. He agreed with Republicans that Social Security needed to be fixed. He constantly derides Democrats as being soft on terror. And, yes, he supported Bush's splendidly illegal little war. But none of these things would be sufficient, if it wasn't that Democrats have spent most of the last six years watching Lieberman, on TV shows, agreeing with Republicans.

Here's how opposition politics go: the incumbent does things. If those things go well, odds are the incumbent will be re-elected. If Bush's splendid little war had turned out to be a smashing success, with a new compliant government in Baghdad and $12/barrel oil - the Democrats could have bent over and kissed their collective asses goodbye. So, given that an outstanding victory in the war means an outstanding loss for the Democrats, and given that George Bush has never, in his entire life, been able to manage anything, you bet against the war. You say that it's illegal, you say that it won't work, you say that it's unconstitutional. You get out in front of it, so that when Bush screws it up you are the natural party or person to turn to.

Yes, this requires leading the polls. You have to look ahead and say "gee, the polls right now are for this, but I'm willing to bet that will change."

That may seem like a hard bet, but it wasn't and it isn't, because, again, if Bush had won his little war, Bush and the Republicans would have been undefeatable anyway. To use a poker term - they'd gone all in on it.

When your opponent goes all-in you can match him, or you can fold. Democrats folded.

Now Joe wasn't alone in folding. Most Democrats folded, including Kerry (a factor which may have cost him the 2004 election). But Joe kept folding - he repeated Republican talking points on Social Security (false ones, at that), for example. He couldn't even find the guts to defend the third rail of American politics. He was ok with the Senate's radical and unprecedented intervention in the Schiavo case. He helped get Alito through. And then he went on TV and repeated Republican talking points.

Over and over and over again Joe gave comfort to the enemy. He allowed them to say that they had bipartisan support. He allowed them to paint themselves as moderate "see, some Democrats agree, so gutting social security must be the moderate solution." He constantly belittled Democrats as not being manly enough - tough enough, like Joe and the Republicans, to stand up and fight terror.

But what is truly amazing about Joe is that he seems surprised by the strength of the challenge. He's been hated by the progressive wing of the party for as long as I can remember. In 2004 myself and some friends sat down and brainstormed. One of the things we realized was that progressives needed to make an example of at least one Senator who constantly crosses progressive principles and who constantly helps the Republicans make Democrats look weak.

There was never any question who the ideal Senator would be for that. The only question was whether there would be a challenger strong enough to make a running against an entrenched encumbent.

Then Ned Lamont decided to run, we took a hard look at him, liked what we saw, and the netroots went into his camp, hard.

Because despite what some would have you believe, while getting Democrats back into office is good, it's only the first step. As it stands right now, while they'd be better than Bush and Frist and Hastert (a ham sandwich would be better than any of them, since doing nothing is an improvement of being actively malign and incompetent) they would just do stupid things (like coal gas and a big military build up) much more competently.

When you find yourself in a hole, you've got to stop digging. Vichy Dems just want to dig smarter, not stop digging or *gasp*, start filling in the hole. And that's why Lieberman has to go, both as a message to Republican enablers and as a warning that Progressives won't be taken for granted any more, and that giving up civil rights with more due process "if only the President had asked for permission to spy on every American instead of violating the law" is not acceptable.


Ian Welsh May 23, 2006 - 1:12am

Ian -- Enjoyed your perspectives on Bush, opposition politics, and needs of progressives, as well as your roundup of Lieberman sins. You have an admirable "balance" in the real world.

Obviously, many of us have sat, gape-mouthed, while the Republican co-fascist wing of Democrats have aided and abetted. For me, the gape-mouth went away in the roll-call vote to approve the cloture motion, ending the Alito filibuster before it began.

From Avi Rubin's study of Diebold's Hack-O-Matic I, published February 2004, I've watched the Democrats fall all over themselves to say and do NOTHING offensive about the privatization and negation of our electoral system through the Machiavellian HAVA and the Diebold vote-counting abomination. The suspicions all piled on when 19 Democratic Senators voted to end any possibility of an Alito filibuster, 30 January 2006.

Of those 19, 10 are standing for reelection in November, Lieberman included, of course. I deeply suspect that their votes for putting a sworn enemy of our 14th Amendment liberties on the Bush Bench were quid pro quo'd with promises that the goosesteppers will use Diebold's Hack-O-Matic II, the "nuclear bomb" of vote counting software, to get them reelected in November no matter how their constituencies actually vote.

It's just suspicion. I've no hard evidence. But those 19 had already dug themselves into deep holes, and goosestepper voting fraud might have looked liked the best way to keep social, economic, and political power.

Oh, hell, I don't need any hard evidence. At this point in the corruption marathon, if it walks and quacks like a mega-corrupt duck, it is a mega-corrupt duck.

Demofascist Lieberman is joined in the November balloting by Demofascists-For-Alito Akaka (HI), Bingaman (NM), Byrd (WV), Cantwell (WA), Carper (DE), Conrad (ND), Kohl (WI), Nelson (FL), and Nelson (NE). If I get my druthers, none of them will ever be elected to anything ever again. Well -- not in this country. Maybe Halliburton can get them elected in Djibouti or Tbilisi.

Election 2006 should be the advent of the progressive tough-love pledge. No signed pledge, no vote support from progressives, moderates, independents, or anybody else outside the Evil Empire.

We need a standardized form, tough-love pledge. Make them promise in writing that they will actively support the impeachment and removal of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Rice, Chertoff, about seven treasonous Supremes (the fascist thugs who triggered the unconstitutional anti-law regimes of Bush v. Gore, Raich v. Gonzales, and Kelo v. New London, with their felony conspiracies against rights as defined in 18 USC 241 -- felony forfeits judicial immunity), NSA and AT&T hierarchies about five deep, and any of the other criminals that we can catch in our legal hammermills.

Make them promise in writing that they will actively work for a new "Special Prosecutor" law, and its veto override, so that we can cut through the DOJ's treasonous obstructions of justice and get to criminal prosecutions for the many felony conspiracies against rights spawned by the Bush-Cheney Illegitimacy, in violation of 18 USC 241.

Make them acknowledge in writing that they understand -- reneg on the promises and we turn today's love and supporting votes into next election's everything-to-the-wall diselection.

Must sit down today and write up a proposed tough-love pledge form.

Stephen Neitzke
Founder, Direct Democracy League
http://ddleague-usa.net
DD Revival -- The Blog
http://ddrevival.blogspot.com

Stephen Neitzke May 24, 2006 - 8:16am

Lots of buzzy words there - "Demofascist", "treasonous", "fascist thugs"....

Can we work together to make the government responsive to its citizens without sounding like Michelle Malkin?

JMHO.


- Rick
"Free your mind, and your ass will follow" - George Clinton

Rick May 24, 2006 - 9:18am

ratcheting up the rhetoric will only turn voters off. As much as I would love an impeachment I think getting into a position to demand answer and investigations is more important. Its going to take well positioned baby steps to get control in November and I think impeachment talk just leads us to a cliff that the republicans would love to see us jump off of.

Tina May 24, 2006 - 9:26am

Investigations will lead to impeachment. There's no real need to call for impeachment, just call for real investigations.

Because we all know that there's a lot of sewage out there - real investigations will lead to clear high crimes and misdemeanours.

Ian Welsh May 24, 2006 - 10:47am

He leans out to keep moderate asses dry.

Escher Sketch May 24, 2006 - 11:16am

Charmingly cocooned little group --

Tell me, candy, how do you propose we the people gain the leverage over power so that we put ourselves in a position to demand answers and investigations? No squeaky wheels and all mealymouth? And little baby half-steps? Might it be that such unassertive stuff plays right into the hands of those who have the power to say no to their opponents and yes to their friends?

And, Rick -- do you really want to make the issues I've raised invisible because of my buzzy words? Words, I might point out, that I've pretty substantially defended in my charges of the go-along on Diebold hack-o-matics, the installation of anti-rights Alito, and the three-branch collusions over blatant, unconstitutional anti-law regimes generated by precedent-setting Supreme Court judges, whom we can hold responsible for knowing exacting how treasonous their judicially generated anti-law regimes truly are. We can hold them responsible for distinct knowledge of the legal grounds for the precedent-setting findings of treason against the seccessionist state legislators in the 1860s.

'Treason' is not a buzzy word word here, Rick. It is a legally accurate description. It starts with Bush v. Gore violating the Constitutional rights of all Americans to have a president elected in accord with the Constitution. We have a very stern little law against the violation of rights. It is 18 USC 241. You should look it up. Probably too many buzzy words in there for you, but you should look it up anyway.

18 USC 241 defines felony conspiracy against rights. Clearly, the assenting judges in Bush v. Gore are guilty of violating that federal statute and the Constitution under which it falls. As soon as they did that, they violated their oaths to uphold the Constitution and to protect the rights of Americans as defined in the Constitution and laws. The act with which they accomplished those things is a precedent-defined act of treason.

Ah, but we shouldn't insist on the rule of law here, right? Might turn off some voters? Because of the words we used to describe how it is that they elevated themselves and the Bush-Cheney Illegitimacy above the law? That's pretty freaking ridiculous, Rick.

At this point, I could run in about a hundred snide remarks about why we are in the mess we're in. I'll pass. All three of you know what I mean.

Still, I'm going to get a little snarky on you. Let's all just be real careful not to offend anybody while the dual-party, 3-branch, Bush-Cheney proto-despotism has its unconstitutional, felonious, treasonous, war-crimes, and crimes-against-humanity way with us and the world.

Whatever you do, you three, do not read my blog. A fair reading would tie you in a thousand little knots for the rest of your lives. Cocoons are good. Stay in 'em. Much better than helping with the constitutional amendment initiatives that will reduce about 10 corrupt partisan bicamerals to relatively incorrupt, nonpartisan unicamerals on the successful 1934 Nebarska model. Nebraska's 69 years of success with the nonpartisan unicameral just has too many buzzy words in it. Getting civics lessons to flow like water, clear across the country, just so the political sophistication of the 100-million-plus, withdrawn-from-politics citizens would increase to problem-solving dimensions, would be more than you could bear.

Stephen Neitzke

Stephen Neitzke May 24, 2006 - 11:57am

of law mean crap if you have no leverage to make them be enforced. Insulting people who have the same aim as you defeats your goals. You are putting the cart before the horse.

Tina May 24, 2006 - 12:05pm

you might want to look up treason. The activities you describe are nefarious and evil but treason they are not.

Mark May 24, 2006 - 12:27pm

A radically heeling boat capsizes if everyone sits in the center.

Now here's one you need to think about.

When the model has shifted from politics to counterinsurgency, if you want to be more successful at it than the Bush Administration I'd advise trying not to be as ham-fisted as they are.

Figure 2.1 The Concentric Circles of Jihadism

OUTER CIRCLE: Islamic world — 1.5 billion people

THIRD CIRCLE: Jihadist sympathizers — 200–500 million people

SECOND CIRCLE: Jihadist groups — 50,000–200,000 people

INNER CIRCLE: Al Qaeda — 400–2,000 people

Key to the overall management of the U.S. response to the jihadist threat is an understanding of how U.S. actions affecting one of these four concentric circles impacts the other circles. It may well be, for example, that to defeat a jihadist terrorist group (second circle), the United States might choose to support a government that is widely disliked by its people for its corruption and suppression of civil liberties and democracy (such as Uzbekistan). Doing so, however, may be counterproductive to attempting to gain support in the third and fourth circles within that country.

Richard Clarke: Defeating the Jihadists: A Blueprint for Action

Work on getting your collateral damage numbers down.

Escher Sketch May 24, 2006 - 12:31pm

I see. I'm either with ya or agin ya.

Agin.


- Rick
"Free your mind, and your ass will follow" - George Clinton

Rick May 24, 2006 - 12:35pm

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