Editor in Chief: Michael Collins
Editorial Team
nymole, Raja, Numerian, Lex, Actor212, Graham, steeleweed
Contributing Authors
Brian Downing, Jillian, Cliff Schecter, Nat Wilson Turner, Don Henry Ford, Jr., Jack Cluth,
Rook
Editor in Chief: Michael Collins
Editorial Team
nymole, Raja, Numerian, Lex, Actor212, Graham, steeleweed
Contributing Authors
Brian Downing, Jillian, Cliff Schecter, Nat Wilson Turner, Don Henry Ford, Jr., Jack Cluth,
Rook
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Guess that email I sent you was redundant.
Someone else asked if I’d post the image as a clear Closed (at least for now) sign.
Cute. But I’m asking Steeleweed to start passing out front page posting rights to everyone he personally trusts, just for the fun of it. Let the inmates run the asylum until the “owners” figure out how to talk to us. The site is just sitting here in a limbo at the moment. Still a few interesting comments coming in. What the heck lets have some fun fun fun til the “daddy” comes and takes the T-Bird away.
I thought I put that idea to bed. The. Site. Does. Not. Belong. To. Me.
Posting and/or commenting here does not give anyone ownership rights.
In theory are least, the site has some monetary value and the owner has not given me authority to administer it on his behalf.
If you want to have fun fun, start your own blog.
Well you know kids, never want to go to bed. This blog is more fun than my blogs anyway. Bigger engine.
Hey relax, ownership is a privilege anyway, not a right. At least not a natural right. So on who’s behalf do you have authority to administer it?
Authority vs. power: A cop’s badge is his authority. His gun is hs power.
I have no authority, which could only be granted by the site owner.
As as Admin, I have some power and I have been exercising that on behalf of you and all who post/comment/read.
On the way out the door, Steve promoted Matt to Admin.
On the way out the door, Matt promoted me to Admin.
If you walk by a burning building and someone tosses a baby out the window, do you catch the baby or do you tell yourself, “nobody gave me authority to catch this baby”?
It stops here.
If the owner steps up and takes control, fine. If not, that’s okay too. Either way, I’m not planning on promoting anyone or changing anyone’s permissions.
Thanks for the further clarification. I’m not sure I follow your baby analogy but it doesn’t matter as I could construct my own that I would understand perfectly.
So basically you are sitting there waiting to be contacted by the “owner”? Did Steve and/or Matt demote themselves on the way out or are there three admins potentially?
No reason for you to have plans at this point. It’s totally appropriate for you to wait to see how things develop. I guess I am one of the things that could develop and while you seem happy to explain stuff to me, as a development in and of myself, me as a development seems insufficient for you to start any plans yet.
Cool. Makes sense. Any idea how you might contact the owner should you desire or are you just waiting for them to appear? And if they do appear I assume that you have a way of recognizing their claim, of course? I mean I am not suggesting that you push things forward in that direction, like trying to contact them. I suppose it’s possible, though not likely, that they aren’t even aware that there is a powerful but unauthorized handle at the tiller.
And any thoughts on how long you think you might have to wait?
Good bye everyone, it has been fun. On that note, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjQuZCTLAv4
The ear pull thing at the end, I heard, was a thing she had between her and her mother.
Damn, Tina. I was about to nominate you for managing editor. I think only you and Graham have been here as long or longer than I, (aside from Sean-Paul, of course).
Don, I second that nomination –
Miss Tina for Managing Editor
So do I, and we would all give all the help & support possible.
Yeah, Madam…
You’ve been a voice of reason, intellect and propriety since forever. And funny as hell when the mood strikes you.
Please give it some thought…it would be great if you did.
I too, second Tina’s nomination Don. She may have a bit too much on her plate at this time to assume that duty…, but would love to see her back in any capacity. And what about Raja…, he took on added responsibilities a while back and appears to be hanging in there?
Believe Raja has new job which leaves him less time, but he’s still doing the Newswire.
Well…, hope you can hang in there until we get some real answers Steeleweed…, many thanks for the effort. And hope things fall into place for you ever forward.
Speaking as a mostly-lurker:
I’m sorry for everyone’s loss who ran the site and sad to see it (for now?) fall apart.
nice to see ya post Tina
Check back once in a while. Been in touch with owner by email. We’ll see what (if anything) transpires.
Sorry, I don’t mean to bug you, but why do you think that it’s possible that nothing might transpire? And of course, if you are not at liberty to say, I understand.
Emails to/from owner, nothing developed yet. How if finally goes down I cannot predict but I will keep folks posted.
well so much for that list of things you were going to do for now on your server etc- it’s waiting for Godot time:-)
Steeleweed- I don’t see the point of keeping the site open for comment updates. It’s upsetting- like watching a headless chicken try to walk. (Unless you haven’t heard from the owner).
-mole
Thanks for making that effort steeleweek. I don’t see any reason fo this site to close. things are a little iffy now but so is much of life.
Well, the lights are still on and I suppose it’s possible that the posting community is large enough that it can take on a life of its own. Without an EIC it won’t be focused and nobody will be growing its reach. It would become more like a forum than a communal blog. There’s nothing to stop the existing editors and authors from posting. I think ‘contributors’ can post but the posts need to be approved (some WP maven correct me if I’m wrong on that – the distinctions between editor/author/contributor are a little unclear to me).
The majority of the front page and newswire posts were by the editors and several of us are severely demotivated, so there will be fewer posts every day.
But it ain’t over til the fat lady sings, eh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atCwKBeq76w
Thanks everyone for this site. I’ve learned a lot.
from the former readr satx
Just like that. Oh well.
I hadn’t gotten used to the new interface, but I still checked in more or less daily. I have counted on y’all to help sift out current affairs that matter.
Some other time, I guess.
Guess I am stating the obvious, but since this is WordPress all the fine work done to get this theme up and running could be just ported to another WP site (obviously without the copyrighted content), but if some folks would like to keep this going as a community effort I don’t see what could stop it. Call it the agonista and change the antique dude to an antique gal (no offense meant to Socrates).
I’m not a WP maven and the only way I know to stop comments would be to change the permissions of a whole lot of folks and quite frankly, I have neither the time nor inclination to do any more work here. All it would do is leave all the comments ‘pending approval’.
If – by some miracle – the site is rescued (rich uncle, where are you when we need you?) we wouldn’t want to have to start over from scratch.
Some of us have privately discussed migrating our community. There are two downsides to this:
1) The cost of hosting and paying a decent wage to an Editor In Chief.
2) We would be starting at Square One vis-a-vis our reputation and visibility in the blogsphere.
As I see it, the smartest thing the owners could do is sell the site.
If it’s sold to someone willing to support it, great.
I doubt if a small collection of us could afford it and keep pay the monthly upkeep.
In any case, the fate of this site is out of our hands.
I know. Mine was just an emotional reaction.
-mole
I have been around since 2003. The most exciting times were early on, in part because of the novelty of the concept and because at the time this site was not seen just as a “business” by the owner. It was not an unpredictable end, I think.
Can I ask a question, mostly because I’m too damned lazy to do the research?
Who actually owns this site?
read the entire thread, if it’s not too much work:-)
http://agonist.org/news-to-me/
IT’s only in the last few years.
Much obliged!
It looks like I should have hung around the Google+ chatroom more