Monsanto


Saturday, September 12, 2009. Rain, blessed rain. So far, almost four inches have fallen over the last three days. The pastures are greening up and we’re getting a little rest due to the mud.

I took a pesticide certification class and passed the private applicator license test last week. While there, I asked the county agriculture agent administering the test about my yellow black eyed peas. He suggested iron chlorosis might cause the condition.

Quintin Holtz had already suggested an iron deficiency could be my culprit so I looked up iron chlorosis on the internet. The article I found had pictures of soybeans afflicted with the ailment and they looked exactly like the black eyed peas in my field. The article went on to say that the soil in which plants grow that exhibit symptoms may in fact have plenty of iron, but other conditions such as soil ph or an overabundance of other elements may prevent the plants from absorbing iron from the soil.

The article goes on to say that foliar applications of chelated iron may or may not help. It adds that sometimes the cause of the condition remains a mystery. I bought some and intend to give it a try as soon as the field dries enough to get into it with a spray rig.

Nowhere does the article suggest a connection between the use of glyphosate and iron chlorosis. So, I will suggest it as a possibility. The story goes: no residual effects remain in the soil from the use of Roundup. Monsanto wouldn’t lie.

Yeah right, motherfuckers.

Tell that to the Colombians whose coca was eradicated with the shit. They seem to have problems with your product fucking up their land and their food crops; I suspect I do too.

Of course, I did it to myself, but I'm learning...


Don September 13, 2009 - 9:58pm
( categories: Miscellany )

1. Chlorosis can be caused by a ph change in the soil, fro acid to alkali.
2. All aromatic organic chemicals and all organo-phospates are carcinogenic.

Synoia September 13, 2009 - 10:16pm

You're not talking about organic pesticides, right?


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adrena September 13, 2009 - 10:45pm
Raja September 14, 2009 - 6:56am

Thanks, Raja :-)


Tolerating prostitution is tolerating abuse and torture of women and children.

adrena September 14, 2009 - 6:08pm

Their motto: profit before health

"The company is also seeking to extend its reach into milk production by marketing an artificial growth hormone for cows that increases their output, and it is taking aggressive steps to put those who don’t want to use growth hormone at a commercial disadvantage". (See link in Don's post)

Hormone injected cows are susceptible to mastitis -- inflammation of the udder. Since a cow with mastitis produces milk with pus in it, something which is not acceptable to dairies (dairies check milk for high somatic cell count i.e. high proportion of pus), farmers give antibiotics to treat the ailing cows.

rBGH hormone for milk production

* Antibiotics given to cows to treat mastitis results in antibiotic residues in milk. Apart from causing health problems in those who drink this, it can lead to the development of antibiotic resistance amongst bacteria present in the person's body.

* Scientific studies link rBGH to cancer citing the fact that the presence of rBGH in the cow's blood stimulates production of another hormone (Insulin-Like Growth Facto) in the cow and traces of it are found in its milk. Since this hormone is also active within humans, it can lead to uncontrolled cell division or cancer. Source


Tolerating prostitution is tolerating abuse and torture of women and children.

adrena September 13, 2009 - 10:35pm

I said as I handed a 256 Megabyte data transfer thumb drive to a world published Russian plasma physicist. His boss was a Korporate Afmurikastani dickhead and only through the network of technicians I was afforded the opportunity to buy said "unsecure" data transfer device to make this man's work easier. That said American corperate assholes who have for years decimated this man's green technological innovations had the fucking audacity to escort him out of the building for exposing their fucked up financial planning spanning eight full years of his brilliant technological invention.

Lasthorseman September 13, 2009 - 11:56pm

my pea patch has continued to grow and will probably make a crop, albeit with substantially reduced yields.

I can't say definitively that glyphosate (better known as Roundup) caused the chlorosis.

I did spray glyphosate on the field before planting to kill Johnson grass. The roundup killed the Johnson grass above ground, but the stuff came back from the roots and seed in the ground and is thriving.

The bulk of Monsanto's current cash cow is built around Roundup ready technology. We haven't been using this technology for long, but an overwhelming percentage of critical grain crops are now genetically modified, Roundup ready, owned by Monsanto and under patent protection. It's highly possible that there are problems associated with GM food and the chances that the people that sell it to us and get fabulously rich doing so are going to police themselves are next to none.

This is not the first time I've seen yellowing of peas possibly related to the use of Roundup. Previously I used Roundup around the borders of a garden patch and noticed the plants near the path turned yellow, while those farther away from the path were healthy.

Roundup works fabulously well. So does cocaine.

I did inhale.

Don September 14, 2009 - 8:33am

here.

Remember, virtually all corn and a lot of the other grains you eat here in the US is indundated with this stuff.

I did inhale.

Don September 14, 2009 - 11:20am

...the purported half life of Roundup is greater than the half life of generic glyphosate, because of the additional "inert" ingredients used in the formula. Claim is that 30 days +/- the compound is essentially broken down. Reality is that the compound's half life can be up to 135 days, and if used in conjunction with an insecticide, even longer. European studies suggest that glyphosate could inhibit absorption of trace metals, specifically iron, zinc and magnesium.

(gut still held that it was not fungal in nature.)

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OldLakeRat September 14, 2009 - 11:29am

...it seems to depend a good deal on the type of soil [maybe climate?] involved. FWIW we've been using Roundup up here regularly since it was introduced in a range of applications, including to knock stuff down prior to seeding and I don't believe we've ever seen any problems with peas (couple of thousand acres annually over 5-6 years) at least not at typical application concentrations (the guys spraying the powerline who dumped the end of the tank rather than pump it out would be different story). I'll try to remember check in more detail once harvest is over (ol' Dad tends to get just a wee bit testy about the cellphone calls when he's riding the combine).

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JustPlainDave September 14, 2009 - 6:15pm

on that point. Soil pH and composition has a great deal to do with it's persistence, as does the presence of certain microbial entities. Hence, if a pesticide is used in conjunction with, or soon thereafter, its' half life could be considerably extended. Another variable in our area is the presence of clay...appx. 40ish% in the area in question...and the ability of clay to bind trace metals. Combine this with the potential for glyphosate to inhibit absorption of said trace nutrients and we may have the answer. I don't know for sure...it's all conjecture until Don spends the big bucks getting a pro out there to take samples and wave the magic wand. However, I really enjoy these posts, since I get to flex my brain a bit, and use the stuff I've learned that make absolutely no difference in my current day job.

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OldLakeRat September 14, 2009 - 7:25pm

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