Republican Mitt Romney entered Monday night’s debate on foreign policy with the goal of presenting himself as a competent, plausible alternative to President Obama as commander in chief.
But Romney appeared to cede many positions to Obama, moving closer to the president on a range of issues and presenting them in a softer way.
[...] “I’m glad that Governor Romney agrees with the steps that we’re taking,” Obama said at one point. “There have been times, Governor, frankly, during the course of this campaign, where it sounded like you thought that you’d do the same things we did, but you’d say them louder and somehow that would make a difference.”
One of any number of zingers that President Obama got off during the night and this time, he inflicted wounds on his opponent, rather than stand back and let Mitt swallow his own foot.
The foreign policy debates are the most difficult for both the candidates and the audiences.
Yes. Audiences. I’ll get back to that in a moment.
Foreign policy requires a deep understanding of issues that concern other nations as well as the interdependent interplay between nations that most of us don’t even pay attention to.
Which is why Romney’s comments on Iran are deeply troubling:
Syria is Iran’s only ally in the Arab world. It’s their route to the sea.
The question was posed to Romney on how he would pay for his proposed $2 trillion increase in military spending, and he flat out didn’t answer it. He was busy finishing his previous answer. So by the time it was the president’s turn, Obama actually said, “You should have answered the question.”
Obama then asserted that the United States spends more on its military than the next 10 countries combined. That’s a great attention grabber. By the time Romney finally answered, he simply said we needed a stronger military, and the Navy needs more ships because it has fewer ships than it did in 1916.
But Obama countered with the most memorable line of the night. “We also have fewer horses and bayonets.” Obama’s debating point was that the nature of our military has changed. He continued by saying that the U.S. has things like submarines and aircraft carriers that should suffice, and reminded viewers that the nation needed to study what its threats are and put money into things like cybersecurity and space. Obama said that the military neither wants nor has asked for this extra $2 trillion.
This was terrible for Romney for three reasons. First, it was the original area of real disagreement, and Romney couldn’t afford to be bested. Second, no matter what he may actually know, Romney looked like a neophyte when it comes to military spending, as though he were repeating old Republican talking points. Viewers could be left unsure whether he knew what century this is.And finally, it’s two freaking trillion dollars! They both talked about the budget deficit and the need to balance the budget, and over three debates, this — $2 trillion on military spending — was the biggest difference on offer. Axing Big Bird would net a President Romney next to nothing in savings, but adding $2 trillion to defense sounded excessive, especially if it’s true that the U.S. already spends more than the next 10 countries combined. Point Obama.
Sorry for the extended quote, but Graham’s point was excellent, which brings me to the nub of this post.
Foreign policy debates always speak to two audiences: the voters, and the world. Most nations can safely ignore the town hall and economic debates (China and our trading partners have some vested interest, but…)
Foreign policy lays out a candidate’s vision of the world, and its future. If a challenger can be seen as a credible President, it will help nations like China and Russia– and Iran– figure out how best to deal with him or her.
You have to speak both diplomacy outwardly but inwardly speak to the American people about strength and security. Obama has an huge advantage. He’s a known quantity on the world stage. He can speak more to the American people if he so chooses, knowing that his actions already speak for him. He can even bully Iran a little, given that he’s lined up Russia and China, both reluctantly, behind him.



I was struck by the lack of difference between policy of the two, not only in last night’s debate, but in all of them.
I think that’s the reason Obama seemed dumbfounded in the first encounter. In the second and third debates Obama realized he could do a better Obama impression than Mitt.
PS. These politicians have done their homework and moved toward what they perceive as popular public opionion. Therefore their policies represent the will of the people. Scary thought. We get the government we deserve.
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This from Haaretz no less:
In Florida debate, Romney breaks world record in politacal Etcha-a-sketching.
The two presidential candidates sparred over Israel, but on most matters, Obama was surprised to learn, his Republican rival suddenly concurs with his policies. The conservative right wing may not be amused.
I was struck by how proud both of them were of the amount of privation and suffering we are imposing on the Iranian people, and the need to impose even more of it. Made me proud to be an American and want to go looking for my Navy uniforms of fifty years ago to help blockade Iranian oil. If we have a war with them Americans might die, but we can starve them to death with only economic cost to the US and, of course, we have an endless supply of borrowed money.
Did you make the same claim when South Africa was being boycotted? Just curious
The assertion that there are 10,000 centrifuges currently producing enriched uranium is basically correct. Correct number by my quick reckoning as of August (which I think was the last report to the Board) was 10,180.
Reliable reports put the number at 2,140, Dave, as of August. It had been 1,080, so your numbers are remembered correctly, just not accurately.
There are 2,140 centrifuges at Fordow (which is what the article is talking about), known in IAEA-speak as the FFEP. That’s the deeply buried facility near Qom. That number: a) does not include the much larger number of centrifuges at Natanz and b) is itself an inaccurate number because only about a third of those centrifuges (696, arranged in 4 cascades) are declared as enriching to 20% as of August.
There are two other declared production facilities – the Fuel Enrichment Plant (FEP) and the Pilot Fuel Enrichment Plant (PFEP). Both of these are located at Natanz. The FEP is the main facility and it is underground, divided into two halls (A and B). One of these halls currently has a large number of centrifuges installed in it, many of which (9,156) are currently enriching to a 5% level. The PFEP is on the surface and has 328 centrifuges (in two interconnected cascades) enriching to the 20% level.
All of this is tabulated directly from the August report to the IAEA Board of Governors, rather than secondary media.