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Rudy Giuliani: "Freedom is about authority...willingness.. to cede to lawful authority".


Yeah I seem to remember Ben Franklin saying exactly that...

You think anyone going to make Rudy explain this statement from 1994? Here some more of Rudy's enlightened philosophy:

Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani discussed his philosophy of what freedom means in a democracy yesterday at a forum on urban crime, and his remarks left a civil libertarian puzzled and worried.

The Mayor, a former United States Attorney in Manhattan, said New Yorkers were inclined to "see only the oppressive side of authority."

"What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be," he said at the forum, sponsored by The New York Post. "Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

Yes, this is exactly the kind of leader we need at this moment in our nation's history...

For more on Rudy's pleasant way, go here


Cliff Schecter January 9, 2008 - 3:54pm
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well if that don't take the cake

he must not think much of the bush administration then, huh?

Zuma January 9, 2008 - 5:23pm
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That's just about verbatim...

...out of George Lakoff's Whose Freedom book (on what freedom means to the "strict father" mindset).

Priceless set of Guilianisms here.

update Provide link and correct spelling to Lakoff. The book is a very important means to understanding the likes of Guiliani, Bush et. al.

Gordon January 9, 2008 - 6:03pm
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I wish there were a way for folks who believe these things

to live in the hellish anti-utopia of their choosing while leaving the rest of us out of it. If they want to practice S&M politics, that's fine with me as long as all participants opt in.

Maybe Israel could be the world's haven for all such sick little monkeys.

chalo January 9, 2008 - 6:28pm
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Orwell, calling George Orwell

One of your characters seems to have gotten loose in the world of reality. Could you please write him out of your novel? Thanks.

Zman1527 January 9, 2008 - 7:33pm
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911 Rudy's favorite

Well here we have the latest keywords for your searching perusal.
They are from Sible Edmonds. While it will be a huge story in the rest of the world, here you will never hear about it.

Gray Wolves
Shanghai Cooperation Organization
RAND Corporation
PNAC
East Turkmenistan
Iran
Syria
Foreign Policy
King Faisal
ISI
Northrup Grumman
American Turkish Council
WINEP

Lasthorseman January 9, 2008 - 7:34pm
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Big Daddy Government

with Rudy as Big Daddy? OMG!

Has this guy actually got a chance at it?

tjfxh January 9, 2008 - 7:49pm
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No.

Rupurt Murdoch has failed. He will be eliminated.

Gordon January 9, 2008 - 8:08pm
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New Sibel Edmonds

stories are coming online. This is really big.
Excites me into a state of rapturous joy, far more than any of the "candidates".

Lasthorseman January 9, 2008 - 9:03pm
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World of Rudy

>>>"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

You know, this has really got me thinking, and if I didn't know better, I'd swear this was the talk of of slave about his relationship to his dominatrix. Really. No joke. Look at what this guy has done. A hugely public affair with Judith Nathan. And absolutely attached at the hip to her. Risking everything countless times over, including all of those trips out to the Hamptons while he was still married and still Mayor no less!

And now. He's on the phone with her day and night. It's just weird. But reading this stuff .. it's like ... click. This guy's into to some truly funky stuff.

amy60606 January 10, 2008 - 7:44pm
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