Ron Paul vs. Liberty, Round 3: Language


I thought that anyone who identifies as liberal or left-wing or at least non-conservative and non-right-wing might be a little curious about Representative Paul’s language. After reading a smattering of his writings, I sure am! Let’s check out a few of these lovely turns of phrase, some of which are notable simply for their word choice, others for their overall content.

“The proper role of government, namely the protection of natural and constitutional rights, flows from the pro-life perspective.” (March 28, 2005)

“The real motivation behind the estate tax is a deep-seated hostility to property rights, and a misguided fear of family dynasties.” (June 12, 2006)

“Morality is inherent in law, no matter what the secularists might say.” ((March 28, 2005)

“However, many Americans understandably fear that if gay marriage is legalized in one state, all other states will be forced to accept such marriages.” (Gay Marriage Quicksand)

“It is great comedy to hear the secular, pro-gay left, so hostile to states’ rights in virtually every instance, suddenly discover the tyranny of centralized government.” (Gay Marriage Quicksand)

“Throughout the 20th century, the relentless federalization of state law served the interests of the cultural left, and we should not kid ourselves that the same practice now can save freedom and morality. True conservatives and libertarians should understand that the solution to our moral and cultural decline does not lie in a strong centralized government.” (Gay Marriage Quicksand. Note he is discussing gay marriage and homosexuality here when referencing “moral and cultural decline.”)

“Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist, secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view. The justification is always that someone, somewhere, might possibly be offended or feel uncomfortable living in the midst of a largely Christian society, so all must yield to the fragile sensibilities of the few. The ultimate goal of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely secular nation, a nation that is legally and culturally biased against Christianity.” (Christmas in Secular America.)

“Why have we allowed the secularists to intimidate us into downplaying our most cherished and meaningful Christian celebration?” (Christmas in Secular America.)

“The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance.” (Christmas in Secular America.)

“This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people’s allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation’s Christian heritage. Christmas itself may soon be a casualty of that war.” (Christmas in Secular America.)

“Once we accepted the federalization of abortion law under the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision, we lost the ability to apply local community standards to ethical issues. It is much more difficult for pro-life advocates to win politically at the federal level. Those who seek a pro-life culture must accept that we will never persuade 300 million Americans to agree with us. Our focus should be on overturning Roe and getting the federal government completely out of the business of regulating state matters. A pro-life culture can be built only from the ground up, person by person. For too long we have viewed the battle as purely political, but no political victory can change a degraded culture. A pro-life culture must arise from each of us as individuals, not by the edict of an amoral federal government.” (March 28, 2005)

“The political left equates freedom with liberation from material wants, always via a large and benevolent government that exists to create equality on earth. To modern liberals, men are free only when the laws of economics and scarcity are suspended, the landlord is rebuffed, the doctor presents no bill, and groceries are given away.” (February 7, 2005).

“NAFTA’s superhighway is just one part of a plan to erase the borders between the U.S. and Mexico, called the North American Union. This spawn of powerful special interests, would create a single nation out of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, with a new unelected bureaucracy and money system. Forget about controlling immigration under this scheme.
And a free America, with limited, constitutional government, would be gone forever.”(Campaign website)

“Many talk about being pro-life. I have taken direct action to restore protection for the unborn.” (Campaign website)

“But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.” (Campaign website)

“The therapeutic nanny state only encourages individuals to view themselves as victims, and reject personal responsibility for their actions.” (April 23, 2007)

“Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist.” (April 16, 2007)

“The controversy surrounding remarks by talk show host Don Imus shows that the nation remains incredibly sensitive about matters of race, despite the outward progress of the last 40 years. A nation that once prided itself on a sense of rugged individualism has become uncomfortably obsessed with racial group identities.” (April 16, 2007)

Secularists. Pro-gay secular left. Collectivist Left. Understandable fear of gay marriage. Elitist, secular Left. Nanny state. Legally and culturally biased against Christianity. Overturning Roe. Restore protection for the unborn. How much clearer does he have to be? How many more code words and phrases could he add to drive his point home?

His stance on the Iraq war, the Patriot Act, and some other issues definitely seems to set him apart from the crowd in a positive way. Those issues are huge and if you feel that they outweigh everything else, then by all means vote for him.

But if you identify as liberal or on the left. If you are gay. Female. Non-white. Non-Christian. Or just non-religious… Just please be aware of what you are voting for. He is not truly on your side. The politics of 1776—Ron Paul’s politics—do not favor you.

Ian has done a great job of highlighting the current constitutional crisis (The Third Rail War). The politicians we put into office at this time will largely determine the form of the next constitutional order and the trajectory our nation will take for perhaps the next 70 years. At this point, a decision must be made as to whether we need to raise taxes, cut social welfare, or cut the military. I, and I suspect many others at the Agonist, wish to drastically cut the military and reorganize social welfare to be more comprehensive and more efficient (cheaper and better). If taxes need to be raised, then so be it.

Ron Paul will cut all three and bring the whole edifice crashing down. I, for one, am not willing to vote for Samson and let him pull the roof down on us. Based on my readings, I think that the ascendancy of Rep. Paul to the office of the President will be a big “fuck you” from rural and outer suburban, white, straight, Christian males directed toward the rest of the country—only slightly better than when they voted for the neoconservatives in 2004 and directed it toward the rest of the world as well. It will usher in the next phase of the decline of the American republic, as solutions from two centuries ago are imposed on our modern problems and, inevitably, fail to solve them. And the festering rot will continue.

An online acquaintance of mine over at Orcinus recently expressed his frustration at living in a world with 21st century technology but 19th century political structures. I agree--and if our 19th century politics are currently failing, 18th century politics won’t work either. We need something new, we need to solve our modern problems with modern solutions, and we need to include everyone in the process of creating a better future. I don’t know who can do this right now. I have hopes for Kucinich, Gore, or Edwards, but I doubt they’ll get into office and am unsure of just how much change they’ll bring. But I see no one else who even comes close to offering a way forward.


Bolo September 8, 2007 - 11:59pm

But I don't think it would be the American Republic in danger of collapse should Paul win (yeah, right), but instead the American Empire.

A look at Ron Paul supporters would reveal this. A sea of white, mostly middle class and poor people with strong nationalistic tendencies and a "Christian" orientation.

Right or wrong, they fear not so much that secularist beliefs exist in their country, but instead that these beliefs will be forced upon them.

Most of his suppoorters don't believe that a strong central government enforces fairness but only offers protections when forced by the will of the people. I'd say they have a fundamental difference of opinion in the inherent nature of government (they think any government not constantly checked will become tyranical).

They live in fear of measures like this one. And this.

I'd say a lot of them are rascit, sexist conservatives (like the dudes that wrote our constitution). Some of the rest feel that his anti-imperialist stance, (his is the only one among all the candidates on either side of the race), and his stance on economic issues are so compelling, that if not addressed will guarantee the death of our Republic and the freedoms we enjoy.

Paul would say here are your choices: try to save the empire and lose the Republic, or kill the empire and save the Republic.

All of which is a mute argument because there's no way in hell Ron Paul is winning the Republican nomination.

The Republicans will give us Giuliani or Romney or Fred Thompson. The Democrats will give us Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama. All of that assuming that some off-the-wall "event" doesn't happen between now and November of next year to alter the debate (or cancel the election).

In the next election, imperialism gets an enabler. And imperialsim continues, until the empire collapses catastrophically. Who knows how long that will take, but if history of past empires provide any clues, our end will be messy.

ps. I would add, that if we don't put a stop to our belligerant and bellicose treatment of the rest of the world, all the social programs you hope for go down with the rest. For we will be a bankrupt nation. It is quite possible that we have gone so far down that path that there is no return.

George bush will go down in history as the man that presided over the death of our nation. And he will have enjoyed not only the help and support of Republicans, but also a lot of Democrats.

I did inhale.

Don September 9, 2007 - 11:15am

Not to belabor the subject, but consider how our government's actions affect the rights of people from other nations.

What good is the right to an abortion or of getting married to a member of your own sex when soldiers are killing you, destroying your property and your livliehood?

Who among mainstream candidates is willing to take on corporate monopolies now deciding real policy? (instead of arguing phantom left/right issues that probably will not be changed in any substantial way because they represent the will of the people. Does anyone honestly believe that a woman's right to an abortion will be taken away?)

If you don't like Ron Paul, (with a decidedly conservative bent), then at least consider Mike Gravel or Dennis Kucinich (yeah, right).

We're fucked.

I did inhale.

Don September 9, 2007 - 12:30pm

I honestly would love for Kucinich to get elected, and failing him then Gore... then I suppose Edwards--I'm going to be watching his trajectory very closely.

I know that Paul is relatively good on some issues, especially those concerning the Iraq War and general civil liberties/privacy issues. I do think that weighs very heavily in his favor. But... well, you've read my posts. Especially this last one here. He's only on the side of liberals/leftists on those few issues. Anything else and he's either diametrically opposed or in mild opposition.

I don't believe that Paul will destroy the American Empire to save the American Republic. He will destroy both, because his idea of an American Republic is severely at odds with the current state of the nation--demographics, economics, and technology. He will try to bring the Empire back two centuries, to the 1st Republic. We cannot do that. We have to move forward and forge new solutions--establish a 2nd Republic.

Does anyone honestly believe that a woman's right to an abortion will be taken away?

If it devolves to the states, yes. Emphatically yes. Not in every state, but in enough places to make getting an abortion impossible for many women. And, as I said in part 1, that's when the coat hangers come out and women start dying.

Bolo September 10, 2007 - 2:52am

Excellent series of posts on Ron Paul.

I linked to the first two at Liberal Values and the post also includes further information on Paul's views which you might be interested in:

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=2121

Ron Chusid September 9, 2007 - 3:08pm

for the linkage! :)

Bolo September 10, 2007 - 3:14am

i hear you Bolo. I just think it would be more prudent to voluntarily "defang" the empire than to wait until it implodes and takes a quarter of the population with it.

As far as roe vs wade being overturned. I can't see all 50 states outlawing abortion, not even a great majority, but i could be wrong.

19 century politics with 21st century technology. With less centralized government, doesn't that give the private sector a chance to advance our everyday lives without burdensome federal oversight? Market dynamics throughout the population. Competition breeds innovation. today we have somesemblance ofthat, but it's weighed down by special interests that use the ears of their bought-off and all powerful in the pocket politicians to pass more and more legislation that nullifies any of the benefits that competitive business offers.

I still think RP is the lesser of the two evils. Much lesser. I mean what do you think happens with Giuliani in there? That guy is a complete sociopath. Obama wants to increase the size of the military. And the list goes on. The faces have changed but the policies have always stayed the same for decades. Maybe we should try some new policies?

acrabbe September 9, 2007 - 3:27pm

straight-out suck. Many of them are worse than Ron Paul, but that's because (imo) Rep. Paul's natural political tendencies are hobbled by his obsession with the 10th amendment and reducing federal power.

But as far as trying some new policies goes... I honestly think that Ron Paul has little to offer that is "new." He offers "different" and "old," but very little that I would call "new." And we need new right now more than ever.

Bolo September 10, 2007 - 3:03am

oh, and by the way. You get rid of the Fed and the IRS, that alone removes the 50lb weights from the nations ankles... check this out. This is penciled in theoretical blueprint to how these guys think their actions would affect the nation. It makes sense for the most part. Of course, I say that from a 30k ft macro perspective. Meanwhile we all live directly on the ground and would experience the upheavals to varying degrees...

http://www.ron-paul-business-directory.com/ron-paul-godzilla-fed-and-gold.html

acrabbe September 9, 2007 - 3:35pm

Thanks for sifting through Ron Paul's comments on issues other than the war, for which he is getting a lot of liberal attention.

In reading your material, I am not sure he can be characterized easily. He seems libertarian only in the sense of wanting to limit government to the absolute bare bones, on the theory that this is the best way to maximize personal liberty. But as you point out, he is quite happy to allow the states to limit the personal liberties of women and gays.

When it comes right down to it, his libertarian philosophy always seems to be subjugated to the anti-secular, anti-liberal philosophy of many of his Texas constituents. It is conservatism tinged with bigotry and the need for an enemy- very much the definition of the authoritarian strain running rampant through the Republican Party, and a place where Ron Paul feels very comfortable.

Do we want yet another president who bases his personal philosophy on identifying and castigating certain Americans as enemies?

Numerian September 9, 2007 - 7:46pm

a tiny smattering of his writings. Rep. Paul is a very prodigious writer. I encourage everyone who is still interested in exploring his opinions to click on my links and go to Ron Paul's website to read more.

I didn't get into a lot of other issues--mostly economic ones, on which I'm not entirely qualified to comment. If you or anyone else is interested on doing some research, a good place to start would be on his views on the gold standard--he's a big gold bug.

It is conservatism tinged with bigotry and the need for an enemy- very much the definition of the authoritarian strain running rampant through the Republican Party,

Yep. His authoritarianism is simply very different from the rest of the pack because it is warped by his "states rights" mantra. But its still there.

Bolo September 10, 2007 - 2:58am

i watched the rethug debates last week just to see this guy. he is fresh and exciting when compared to the rest, but i figured there was more to him than "get out of iraq" and "protect the constitution."

off topic, but i swear this: i will smack the next individual who sneeringly utters the words "nanny state" to me. it is so dismissive and such an obscene catchphrase. i absolutely hate it. not the way you've used it, but the way those who oppose any progressive policies use it. it stops the conversation and that is maddening.

lynette September 9, 2007 - 11:40pm

to living in the current Criminally Negligent Crack Mommy and Childabusing Deadbeat Daddy state.


"The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential."

- Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Escher Sketch September 10, 2007 - 12:07am

“Why have we allowed the secularists to intimidate us into downplaying our most cherished and meaningful Christian celebration?”

Actually, I believe the biggest enemy of Christmas is mammon. How about shutting all commerce for christmas week, and reflecting on is true meaning?

And I miss those quite Sundays of my childhood when all shops were shut...

Synoia September 10, 2007 - 12:33am

...that in New England during Colonial times, you could be fined for closing your business on Christmas? And that's the only colony which was not a commercial enterprise.

Gordon September 11, 2007 - 9:28pm

He seems to be from a locked-down safe district. This gives him the ability to say what he wants, far more than most reps. Barry Goldwater had this situation, as does whoever represents Orange County, CA. (Seems like Ted Kennedy has this power also, but I'm not sure.)

He and John Bolton don't lie about themselves. This is worth respecting.

Forget it, Jake - it's AmnesiaTown

Tonsure Wimple September 10, 2007 - 12:35am

for me the main issues are the war(s) and lobby/corporate ownership of the main players. I say give Dr. Paul 4 years and let's see what happens. I tend to ignore the abortion issue as it muddies the water. But, Dr Paul is an obstetrician and a Roman Catholic, so his views on it are no surprise. The maimedstream media are trying very very hard to shove their candidates down our throats again and I say it's high time we let them know that "we the People" are in charge. I'll just say it: vote for him even if you don't like him.

Bill W NH September 10, 2007 - 11:48am

"I tend to ignore the abortion issue as it muddies the water."

And all of the women and infants who have died thanks to our wonderful healthcare system? (Who needs socialized healthcare when you've got the highest infant mortality rate and maternal death rate in the Western World?)All of their families? What happens to them means nothing?

Voting for Ron Paul is all well and good for those people who never have to face pregnancy or childbirth. But for the rest of us- what, vote for him anyway, and if you happen to die in childbirth or during a pregnancy gone wrong, too bad?

QueenFrostine September 11, 2007 - 5:49pm

is even remotely a Federalist. If he had his way, we'd back with the Articles of Confederation. I don't believe he has changed in nearly 40 years, since he began. I knew Gold Bugs who loved him years ago; I've known people who love offshore tax havens who love him.

You have to understand who he is. He is an anachronism who wants out of the war and hates big government. Perfectly understandable, but you get much more with him.

For the life of me, I don't know why you folks don't like Richardson. two comments is all he rated on Ian's thread. Bolo- go over there and trash Richardson. See what you can do with him.

http://mauberly.blogspot.com/

mauberly September 11, 2007 - 10:40pm

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