Y’know, the idiot numbnuts on the right ought to learn to shut up and not reflexively defend the white half of a murderous bastard against the black kid:

Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern on Wednesday confirmed that the video being shown by ABC News is of Zimmerman. The 28-year-old’s head and face are visible throughout and he is dressed in a red and black fleece jacket. Police are shown frisking Zimmerman whose hands were handcuffed behind his back. They then lead him into a police station.

“This certainly doesn’t look like a man who police said had his nose broken and his head repeatedly smashed into the sidewalk,” Ben Crump, an attorney for Martin’s family, said in a statement. “George Zimmerman has no apparent injuries in this video, which dramatically contradicts his version of the events of February 26.”

If you view the video, you’ll see little evidence of a man who claims to have been knocked to the ground and all but concussed. he doesn’t stagger around, his eyes are clear and he seems lucid and responsive to the police who examine him. One cop even looks at the back of his head, checking his injuries, whatever they may be.

He does lean briefly against a wall, but given that he just murdered a young man in cold blood, I think we can forgive him a moment of weakness and doubt.

There are serious questions as to why Zimmerman was allowed to go free, even if you accept the police version of the events at face value. Given the lack of injuries on the part of Zimmerman (he didn’t even bother to go to an emergency room for stitches) and even allowing that Martin “got the jump on him,” the fact that Martin twice asked Zimmerman about following him should take this murder out of the domain of self-defense, and at least make it an aggravated homicide.

And I’m not sure I accept the police version of events at face value. Neither, really, do I accept the version told by Martin’s girlfriend at face value. The truth probably lies somewhere in between.

And don’t you find it interesting that, in a gated community where crime was rampant enough to warrant a vigilante squad, not one surveillance camera caught a single moment of the action as it unfolded? I do. I find that suspicious, in fact. After all, these crimes were burglary and breaking and entering. It seems to me that you wouldn’t be able to spit without hitting a camera.

That Sanford police have threatened reporters covering the story with arrest speaks to me of a force desperately trying to cover up their own incompetence.

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  • seriously, how much money do you want to bet that Zimmerman goes to trial and is acquitted? And then due to uninformed and inflammatory rhetoric such as yours, we all get to experience the Rodney King riots all over again. You’ve already got the New Black Panther’s $10,000 bounty, and Spike Lee’s “retweeting” the wrong address for Zimmerman, and crazed death threats to the police, how much more do you want to stir the pot? I’ve already heard so much misinformation making the rounds on the street that I don’t see any other conclusion to events. Do you not remember Sharpton’s role re:Tawana Brawley? You just might want to wait for the results of the investigation before rushing to judgement.

    and as for the idiot numbnuts on the right, well…you might want to think about that.

  • The problem here is the “Stand Your Ground” law in FL is so bad that it really doesn’t matter what happens in this case. Zimmerman almost can’t be convicted, it’s his word vs. silence. The craziest part is had Trayvon Martin actually overcome Zimmerman and shot him just as dead, he would have also walked. He was standing his fucking ground as well!

    So if you and I take a trip to FL for some beach time and get in an argument over who is paying for the Cuban sandwiches. It escalates and there is a punch thrown in anger. By the edicts of Stand Your Ground, at that point it can be a fight to the death and no one is ultimately to blame (or can be arrested.) After all, once one person feels threatened and goes for the throat, the other person feels threatened, and someone can end up dead.

    What the fuck kind of law is that?

    They need to overturn that shit and run the NRA lobbyist douches out of the state capitol. I believe in the 2nd amendment, but this is just insane.

  • Trayvon Martin was murdered.
    Tawana Brawley was not raped.

    And yes, if Zimmerman goes on trial he may well be acquitted, if not on a SYG basis but then on the general reluctance of Southern courts/juries to convict any white man of killing a black.

    The racial agitation from the Brawley affair can be laid directly at the feet of Sharpton (an opportunist who wanted the publicity), Maddox who had his license suspended and Mason who was disbarred.
    Once they had staked out their position, these three and the Brawley family could not back up, even when the Grand Jury pretty well established that tale was made up because Tawana was afraid of being disciplined by her stepfather.
    Rather than admitting their original beliefs were mistaken, S, M & M had to continue their destructive course, and the Brawley family could not back down without exposing themselves to charges of perjury and false accusations.

    In the Brawley case, the black community has suffered from this event by espousing a false cause and losing some credibility for future claims of victimhood (which will certainly occur).
    In the Martin case, the white community will suffer for espousing a false cause and losing credibility for impartiality and justice.
    In both cases, the relationship between the communities will suffer.

    Note: I live in Dutchess county and have friends and co-workers, black and white. I saw what happened to the public attitude, on the ground, at the time.

    It is worth remembering that the Founding Fathers were all traitors.

  • are not the results of single incidents. They are the effects of many many incidents. So should your scenario play out as you suggest it might, then it will not be because of rhetoric no matter how overheated.

    The black community is being smart to use this incident to “stand their ground.”

    And with luck Florida will not have to suffer several ground standings before they get rid of that dumb law. Not holding my breath though.

    Meanwhile between you and me:

    From the Chicago Tribune:

    At about 2:40a.m., two males of an unknown age were wounded in the [the block where I live] in the Edgewater neighborhood, police said.

    One victim was shot in the foot, while the other was wounded in the buttocks, police said. Neither injury was considered life threatening.

    Early reports stated the victims may have been shot by two gunman on bicycles, who fled in unknown directions.

    No arrests have been made.

    I slept well last night so I missed it.

  • …I want a black child to be able to walk down a street without worrying about getting killed. Or arrested. Or even without worrying if the next person he walks past flinches.

    You talk about a half dozen of cases. I can cite that many in an HOUR in the United States that went the other way, where white people, INCLUDING HALF HISPANICS (Caucasians are classified non-Hispanic whites by the Census, btw) injured either physically or psychologically a black man or woman, or boy or girl.

    It’s about time people got angry in this goddamn shithole of a country we live in.

  • …I just can’t believe I’m on the Escher side of this calling for calm and reason, that’s not like me. Could be because I’m on the front lines of it, and don’t want to be up on my roof w/ a shotgun like folks were in 67 & 68.
    I’m almost inclined to believe it’s a matter of “look over there, it’s racism, not what my banker cohorts have done to the economy”. But if this blows up, Obama is sure to lose. And so will the neighborhoods that bear the brunt of pent up anger. Despite how many homes have gone into foreclosure, and people left homeless and out of work in the ghetto, how many do you think understand where the fault truly lies? (cough-Manhattan-cough-Wall St) How on earth do rent-to-own furniture and payday loan stores even exist, if people were even the slightest bit financially literate? YOUR industry is top of the predatory food chain, and you have the nerve to talk about “this shithole of a country”? After you left Harlem when ‘it was really bad’ Pardon me if I find your outrage just a little bit galling.

  • what’s the Escher side?

    “The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential.”

    – Dietrich Bonhoeffer

  • I was remembering your calls for calm when Obama was starting to look like a sellout. or possibly misremembering.
    Sorry if I made it seem like you had taken any position on this issue, it just reminded it me of a time that I was ranting on what a shithole this country is.

  • I realize NYC may be a foreign country to the bumpkins of this shithole nation, but you DO know that one of the poorest black communities in the nation, Harlem, is in (*koffkoffMANHATTAN), right?


    Cuz I’d hate to have to school you in such basic geography while you smear two million good people….

  • How blue is the sky? How big is the universe? How low is the bar that one needs hop over to offer opinion asserted as fact on the Internet? What is the sand of one hand clapping?

    Who knew emoticons were an element of zen?” ~ not-Karl Marlantes

  • I have a tough time – given the dynamics of poverty – believing that the poorest communities, expressed in absolute dollar terms, aren’t in rural areas. The urban areas will show the largest inequities, and differences in purchasing power / available supports will make things difficult to compare without very fine grained insight, but the absolute poorest doesn’t strike me as likely to be in urban concentrations like New York.

    In combat one should be very suspicious of painless moral choices. When you are confronted with a seemingly painless moral choice, the odds are that you haven’t looked deeply enough.” ~ Karl Marlantes

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