A Lesser Species – Part IV, Pornography for women


"The real gauge of the sexual freedom of a society isn't the liberty accorded to its men, but the liberty accorded to its women." Laura Miller

Warning: this essay contains images NSFW.

Part 1 can be read here
Part 11 can be read here
Part 111 can be read here

Continued after the jump

No topic is as divisive as pornography. Proponents that are for or against censorship remain glued to opposite poles; it has created a deep schism within the women’s movement with one side claiming that pornography is degrading to women while the other side proposes that accepting pornography as is will disassociate shame from female sexuality. Although, currently, a tentative effort is being made by both groups to revisit and reconcile these two dissenting positions.

Nevertheless, whatever the views, we can all agree that pornography always has been and still is phallocentric with the subgenre of pornography for women only having been a recent phenomenon. For a long time it was assumed that pornography was the domain of the male psyche ascribed to, as all culturally induced polarized gender traits are, the natural biology of men. As Gayle Rubin noted, "part of the modern ideology of sex is that lust is the province of men, purity that of women." However, recent scientific studies and statistics clearly show that to be a false statement. Consider this: One-in-three visitors to adult-entertainment websites are female – a figure that may even be higher since 70% hide their porn use. This demonstrates that, just like men, women are visual creatures many of whom have an insatiable hunger for erotic images and videos although not necessarily those on offer in mainstream pornography, which, I believe, are for the most part, degrading to women.

Some of women’s complaints about mainstream pornography are that the acts speak exclusively to male desires with endless blowjobs; men coming all over women’s faces; gross and disgusting acts such as ass to mouth; impossible positions; acts that are increasingly violent, and that it’s mostly ugly guys fucking artificially enhanced women. The fact that women find many male porn actors unattractive seems to be a common thread. Why this discrepancy in the level of attractiveness between male and female porn stars or in the depictions of men and women in the media, for that matter?

While men have given themselves the freedom to broadcast often and widely the fact that they enjoy looking at beautiful women, women on the other hand, have throughout the ages, been denied a public expression of their admiration for beautiful men. As a result, the belief that women do not appreciate looking at beautiful men as much as men enjoy the sight of an attractive woman is a delusion that persists. In fact, men like to remind women ad nauseam that they enjoy looking at beautiful women, or, like to exclaim excitedly they saw one as if to reassure themselves they are ‘real’ men and to ensure that ‘all’ women remember they are primarily defined by their looks. And for women, if you are denied a natural expression long enough the absence of it will appear ‘natural’. Again, denial of to the existence of a female gaze continues to be perpetuated and, ironically, is not challenged and is even reinforced by a few women who claim to be feminists.

Since from the day they are born, women are practically spoon fed solely with images of sexy and beautiful women, even in women’s magazines, it’s not surprising that these depictions can evoke an erotic response (for men) in some heterosexual females. As Suraya Singh, the publisher of Filament Magazine notes: (a) images of men designed for straight women (as opposed to gay men) are rare to the point of being practically non-existent, and (b) we’re only ever offered images of women’s bodies – in psychology, this is called “adaptive preference" – where we experience or even strongly express enjoyment of something, in the context of not having other options, because it makes us feel like we’re making a choice". The male image society has created for women to admire resembles the masculine ideal of a gender polarized society; Tarzan, Hulk Hogan, Superman, and football players to name but a few. What is ignored however, is the fact that many women find men with more feminine features far more attractive.

BeautifulBoyNevertheless, resistance to the existence of an authentic female gaze remains. In an article that announced the launch of Filament Magazine, a quarterly publication that focuses on hetero female fantasies and desires, Singh was referred to as ‘an ugly duckling’ and called ‘mentally deranged’ by male commenters some of whom also hoped for predicted its early demise. In addition, an article in the Daily Mail, a UK newspaper that only hires women willing to defend the dominator culture, expressed dismay at the idea of a female gaze. "So why do we persist in pretending we're just like men", the female author asked. Erotic fiction writers Kristina Lloyd and Mathilde Madden provided the following response "Filament isn't seeking to turn the tables in an act of vengeance. Instead, it's asking for women to be acknowledged as human beings who can look and lust just as men can." In addition, Filament Magazine was also turned down by numerous UK distributors who objected to a woman’s magazine having a sexy man on the cover. To add insult to injury, the printers of the first issue refused to print the second publication because it included an image of an erect penis.

Then there is also the huge market of explicit erotic fiction written by women for women. Fiction writer Kristina Lloyd is incensed that the covers of many of these books continue to display images of naked women or their body parts. She states that: Straight women are bizarrely assumed to be uninterested in looking at the object of their desires … and that it is about men protecting their self-proclaimed right not to be reduced to women's sexualized commodities." Clearly, the view of what constitutes female sexuality is based on the self-fulfilling prophesies of the prevailing culture whose biggest false meme is that "men need sex more than women". This idea is reinforced by blocking women from expressing their true desires so that the concocted dominator position on female sexuality can continue to be tightly packaged and delivered to society with a ‘do not return’ stamp. (Jeff Fecke provides a good response to Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen who insinuates that men need sex more than women.)

However, leave it up to young women and their raging hormones to circumvent the restrictive rules and to fool the patriarchy. When in early 2000, the Harry Potter movies appeared in the cultural landscape, many girls couldn’t help but fantasize about the gorgeous looking and very young magicians that hogged the screen – it offered a perfect opportunity for them to explore their frustrated sexuality. Welcome to Harry Potter porn. Produced and consumed mostly by young women, naughty Harry Potter stories belong to the larger online phenomenon called slash fiction. Since many females have culturally induced inhibitions about publically expressing their girl/boy fantasies they cleverly changed the Potter boys’ sexual orientation. The girls let the magicians have sexual trysts with each other while they themselves became eager spectators who savored the many tales of hot boy-on-broomstick action that ensued. Some slashers say that they just find two men together to be hot, just as men like watching Lesbian porn. James Lear, an author of gay erotic fiction, whose books have a large female following, concurs. He notes that "Women are dissatisfied with the traditional roles they’re given in m/f books and films and are looking for material that takes them on a wider imaginative journey; gay porn (m/m) has a liberating effect on their imagination." Then there is also a new magazine named Syzygy that features quality original fiction and photography, all of it male/male erotica aimed at a female audience. Despite the fact that hundreds of thousands of young women enjoyed Harry Potter porn, the phenomenon was considered to be ‘not normal’.

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Nevertheless, today, the genre "pornography for women" is expanding and continues on its march away from the traditional notion of what constitutes female sexuality – a sexuality that exists at birth, that is natural and straight forward but that is made ‘complex’ by a society that fears it. While early feminist porn, although produced ethically, was still made with men in mind, the current crop of female adult cinematographers are responding to the deep yearning of women for porn that puts their desires first. Understandably, the search for what women want is ongoing since women have learned, as a matter of survival, to be adept at shaping male fantasies to their own purposes. Take for example, the rape fantasy.

Far from being traitors to their own kind, women who indulge in rape fantasies disguise themselves and poly-identify; they transform and appropriate a prototypical narrative that inherently dismisses the possibility for them to access power, especially in order to reach sexual satisfaction. Bakhtin qualifies the carnival as a “site of insurgency,” a potentially apt term to apply to rape fantasies as well. They enable the fantasizing subject to use an oppressive culture over which she has no agency, by a clandestine appropriation of cultural “products,” i.e. the omnipresence of rape. They form a repeated poaching of a territory that does not belong to the subject and that was not intended to be twisted in such a way. Source

Simply put, it is a fantasy of a forced sexual tryst that is controlled by the woman herself; she is the sole choreographer of the scene. The rapist is always young, very good-looking and does not use a weapon of any kind. The act basically involves being devoured by a man whose extreme passion has gotten the better of him. Come to think of it, maybe we should call it a ‘devour fantasy’ to eliminate the stigma attached to ‘rape fantasy’ from which emanates the false assumption that women secretly enjoy being raped in ‘real’ life.

As for BDSM, Christina Lloyd explains how to reconcile this fantasy with the principles of feminism.

So my sexuality entails some sort of playing out or mirroring of our society’s gender-based power imbalances. In short, he tops me in bed. And there it ends. I try hard in my writing to convey that women can have M/f sex without being blind or indifferent to the ideological and social structures which make for a world which favors men; that women can have kinky submissive sex without that reinforcing the status quo, without them being plagued by some misplaced feminist guilt; that women can actively participate in their own sexual subjugation and find it super-hot. Source

Even so, I would feel less conflicted about BDSM if the dynamics didn’t mirror the real world where the power differential between men and women is not a game. In addition, the probability of abuse is extremely high as we can see in the case of Mr. Jetton, the former Missouri Speaker of the House who rendered a woman’s ‘safe word’ useless by drugging her. As well, in the porn industry, many actresses cannot perform some of these acts without being on drugs which are freely dispensed by physicians from the area where these films are made. As for kink.com, a San Francisco torture pornography production company, a close friend of a woman who worked for kink until she became too traumatized had this to say: "People in this industry know the hush money they pay talent to shut the fuck up. I know quite a few girls that they’ve taken advantage of and felt the need to give them extra money after the fact. I’ve talked to producers, directors, and talent - the only people saying positive stuff about them are the ones making money off them".

Although, for a wife or girlfriend, I can imagine it could be enjoyable to engage in this kind of play if their man equally shared in housework and child rearing activities; then it would really be a game, in every sense of the word. There is even an online course in this genre that makes it all respectable. However, in my view, BDSM, is an example of the eroticization of the power differential between men and women and originated with the idea that sex is shameful (for women) and therefore ought to be painful. This can be observed in the biblical legacy of sexual violence in the virgin martyr stories of medieval pornography. Although in early martyr legends the emphasis is on the almost superhuman endurance of pain, later versions of the same legends offer a heightened emphasis on sexual torture of the victim, especially torture of the victim’s breasts. I can’t help but wonder if rape and BDSM fantasies would even have existed in a world in which gender equality had always been the norm. I doubt it.

That said, the march continues towards female sexuality that is driven by female agency and desire. Many new porn sites for women are sprouting up all over the Internet. I’ve noticed that a few have mimicked the style of main stream porn, that is, they offer ‘categories’. Although I must say, I am disappointed with the category, "degrading men" that I observed on one site. For someone interested in changing society, aiming for which of the two genders can degrade and exploit the other most simply exacerbates the problem rather than solves it.


Anyhow, it is believed that Internet porn helps women take control of their sexuality as they enjoy being able to pick and choose from a smorgasbord of porn, the kind of images that appeal to them while rejecting those they deem to be degrading and disturbing, of which there are plenty. But best of all, because porn watching is a private endeavour, the branding of women as sluts or whores for experimenting with and savouring their sexuality does not occur. Violet Blue, an expert on Internet porn, has even written a book entitled: "A Smart Girl’s guide to porn". Unfortunately however, on her website, images of sexy women still predominate. Also, strangely, she provides a link to Cinema Erotique, a film company that, although the director of its movies is female, claims to show the best erotic critically acclaimed films with beautiful girls having sex. Violet Blue offers the perfect example of how even sexually liberal-minded women continue to have difficulty extracting themselves completely from the influence of the omnipresent male gaze. Because of the primacy of the male gaze, what is believed to be sexy to straight men gets defined as “sexy” for everyone.

But then there is Petra Joy, a German award-winning erotic photographer and filmmaker, who is unique in that she actively explores the essence of authentic female sexual agency. While she principally focuses on female pleasure, men often and inadvertently, derive pleasure as well since female sexual fantasies are not driven by humiliation of the male. In her films, which she describes as, ‘art-core’ rather than ‘hard-core’, she likes to show men as objects of female sexual desires as, she believes, "There is a distinct lack of pin up culture for women who enjoy looking at naked men." She also asserts that porn prides itself on being liberal and ground-breaking – yet the exploration of a straight guy’s arse is one of the biggest taboos in straight porn films. The term for this sexual practice is pegging and is the focus of the instructional DVD "Bend over Boyfriend" which has reached cult status. This practice was also discussed in the second issue of Filament Magazine which offered several websites for further information and instructions - "Take it like a man" approaches strap-on-sex as if it were an act of domination, but contains useful ‘how to’ advice. In addition, this man’s detailed description of his first experience with getting pegged is quite insightful. Finally, for the many guys who may feel squeamish about this, you do realize that the prostate is considered to be the male equivalent of the G spot in women and is best accessed via the anus. It would be a shame if, because of inhibitions, you would deprive yourself of a feeling of supreme ecstasy.

CunnilingusWineBut let me refocus on Petra Joy and the art of pleasuring women. What makes her porn movies distinct from those in mainstream pornography is that nothing is faked; her motto is: "Feeling it, not faking it". When she puts out a casting call for a new project, she looks for amateurs who enjoy sharing their sensuality and discovering new erotic pleasures in front of the camera ......Petra consistently seeks men who enjoy being eye-candy for the girls, enjoy satisfying women rather than focusing only on their male pleasure. If you’re a woman, what’s not to like?

Petra's movies "Sexual Sushi", "Female Fantasies", and "Feeling it", aim to sexually inspire, excite and liberate women. The fantasies featured in the films vary greatly and go far beyond the cliché of "romance and roses", from being totally pampered by two men at once, or a whole group of people, to having sex with a stranger in a public place. Petra is always looking for new material and encourages women to share their sexual fantasies with her. Her latest film, the autobiographical documentary "The Joy of Porn" had its premiere at Berlin’s first European Porn Film Fest, October 24, where she won the "Feminist Porn Award".

While Petra Joy shares my personal views about porn as well as a love of art, there is an abundance of excellent female directors of women’s adult erotic movies that cater to the many different sexual tastes of women. For example, Candida Royalle combines explicit sex with humour in "Stud Hunters", a satirical film about the adult film industry. The plot involves a dozen guys who show up to audition for a role as a stud in a porn movie, but during the process, things spin hilariously out of control. Candida has produced an eclectic collection of porn movies that suit a variety of tastes. There is also Tristan Taormino, whose movie "Rough Sex" dares to challenge conventional wisdom about the fantasy lives of women. Although personally, even though most parts of the movie appeal to me, and while this movie has been ethically produced, I still feel conflicted about having fantasies shaped by male desires. It will probably take decades for male and female fantasies to fuse and morph into new kinds of sexual cravings that will, hopefully, exceedingly reflect an egalitarian society.

Equally popular are the films of Erika Lust as well as her book: "Good Porn: A woman’s guide." "The Good Girl" is the classic "pizza guy" porn flick revisited by Erika Lust, who added humour, passion, and a female perspective to this porn cliché. Erika explains what led her to focus on porn for women.

The first time I saw a porn film I had the same reaction that many women have – it was definitely not love at first site. I was aroused by some of the images, but there was so much that bothered me. I didn’t identify with any of it: neither my lifestyle, my values nor my sexuality was represented in any way. There was no sign of women enjoying themselves – it was as if they were simply there to please the men. The sexual situations seemed ridiculous: girl walks into room, discovers boyfriend with her best friend and instead of getting pissed off, she joins them! (Filament Magazine)

For more extensive and detailed information, Porn Movies for Women is an excellent website that steers women through the labyrinth of all things porn that is available to them on the Internet.

Finally, there clearly is a renewed energy for and excitement about exploring and validating authentic female sexuality. Women throughout the world have taken up the challenge and are eager to cast off the heavy cloak of thousands of years of sexual suppression. The first Petra Joy Awards of November 2009, in Berlin, received entries from all over the world. The special jury award went to Holland’s Cora Emens’ for "Cora’s Memoires – The Rose", a porn movie which the jury called a "Gutsy and charming film that celebrates ‘older’ women’s sexuality!" (Contrary to popular belief, middle-aged and older people enjoy sex, and will do so into their 80s, research suggests). A brief and subtle scene of pain and pleasure, which emanates from the gentle brushing of a thorny rose against naked skin, can be seen in a sample of clips from the winners. The joy of porn, indeed!

"The Night of the Senses" is an annual event where "Erotic Oscars" are handed out to creative talent. It celebrates diversity. The venue offers many different play rooms where people can live out their sexual fantasies. When Petra Joy attended one year she decided to be a voyeur. She narrates one of her most memorable experiences.

Another room, another world. I hear a woman's loud moans. They draw me in. Her moans are not high but she groans with pleasure almost like an animal. When I step into the room I see men, lots of men surrounding a kind of metal bed. All I see of the woman is her raised hips and pussy. She is being fingered slowly and deeply by just one guy and watched by all the others. The guy's eyes meet mine. He appreciates and enjoys being watched. This is so different from the group wank scenario of a "Bukkake" party. The guys are not here to degrade the woman. The guys watch a woman being pleasured. And they know they are lucky to witness this intimate moment - a glimpse into the world of infinite female sexual power. A woman receiving total pleasure without shame. She is not serving but being served. Pleasured by one man and adored by the others. To me it felt like a temple of worship to female lust. Deep wet and roaring. And a shiver goes down my spine. Source

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adrena January 30, 2010 - 2:32pm
( categories: Human Rights )

doing to that car?

Please keep it within the species!

Synoia January 30, 2010 - 8:48pm

is, i believe, dragoning (a dragon being a car fucker if the noun is required)...but it's generally performed at the other end. To each his own, i suppose.

http://jalopnik.com/285522/sex-with-cars-a-tutorial

I believe that the term originated with this:
http://jalopnik.com/cars/ewww/dragons-having-sex-with-cars-306619.php
(the link within the post doesn't work, but really, one drawing is enough)

And then there's this Kids in the Hall clip, which probably indicates that the act was just needing its own word:
http://jalopnik.com/382173/henry-ford-was-a-dragon-liked-to-fuck-cars

So, if you ever hear a man use the word dragon as a verb in reference to a car you'll know a host of things that you probably never wanted to know.

*edit, don't know why the second link is hot; it's just a drawing of two dragons having sex with a purple Plymouth Barracuda.

Lex January 31, 2010 - 9:15pm

They have a weekly show on CBC. I used to watch them in the old days. Extreme Humor is their brand.


Tolerating prostitution is tolerating abuse and torture of women and children.

adrena January 31, 2010 - 10:00pm

that's how the Sham-Wow was invented.

Silent Autumn January 31, 2010 - 12:57am

It will take some time to consume and digest the content (not to mention the practical insight) offered here - so this is just an acknowledgment of the effort and care which is so evident.

Truly a delightful article. Thanks.

Joes Bar and Grill January 31, 2010 - 6:03am

Yes, I hope that people think about what I have written. I know it's not easy for many and I'm well aware that some may even be 'shocked'. But my intent is to do some consciousness raising and to enlighten. What good is asking the question: "What do women want", when all society wishes to hear are the familiar, and comfortable replies that indicate that all is well with human sexuality as it has been prescribed. But clearly, it is not. In an equal society, men would be thrilled that women enjoy ogling the better looking ones among them. And no, my desire is not to reduce men to the same one-dimensional view that women are subjected to. Sexuality is only one part of us. But much more on that in the following essays.

Thanks again for your acknowledgement. It is very much appreciated.


Tolerating prostitution is tolerating abuse and torture of women and children.

adrena January 31, 2010 - 2:27pm

in pyschology has a mantra "There is no such thing as normal"

After blushing my way through your composition I have to agree, and now I ponder, what hope is there?

For twenty five years I was a 'faithful' husband but the stress of modern lifes circumstances changed that.

"normality" does not exist. I live a celibate life, due to religious conviction, and get a buzz from caring for others in a variety of ways. Possibily a sublimation of my sexuality... I dunno....

I look forward to the next installment - hopefully sooner rather than later?

graham January 31, 2010 - 6:41am

you are going to be subjected to more blushing :D

What is normal is diversity.

The next essay has already been written. SP suggested that I divide my essay in two or three parts as it was too long. So there are two more to come, although the final one may take a while yet. I'll post the next one two weeks from now.


Tolerating prostitution is tolerating abuse and torture of women and children.

adrena January 31, 2010 - 2:42pm

"Possibily a sublimation of my sexuality"

It looks here like the risen Christ is a male ass.

"What's the word"
"Thunderbird."

Jesus wept.

http://mauberly.blogspot.com/

mauberly February 1, 2010 - 12:17am

Gallo, i assume heh!

found in the goddess:
Back in the 60's they used to say if you turned 30 you're over the hill. So disparaged at turning 30, I went out and bought a jug of Thunderbird. Alas, when I sobered up I was still 30.

Same thing happens at 51, apparently also at 71, but still smiling, and rising daily to venture forth!

graham February 1, 2010 - 12:31am

whose G spot is in her brain. She can activate it at will :-)


Tolerating prostitution is tolerating abuse and torture of women and children.

adrena January 31, 2010 - 3:14pm

The digital age has had two major impacts on my sex life. The first was pornography. It became suddenly easily and very privately available. The most important part of the easily available was the niche erotic sites. I too find the commercial male oriented blowjob and face-coming porn uninteresting and off-putting. Some of that kind of porn would appear in my life before the internet so I was aware of it. Yet at that time, the kind of erotic publishing that would arouse me would require me to enter an adult bookstore and search and interact with people, both other shoppers and clerks. It was not something I would or could do.

Early on in the internet age and by accident, as has probably happened to many, an innocent google search turned up a site that interested me. From there it was just a case of following links and refining searches. And since almost all sites offered a free gallery, it could be pursued cheaply and even without cost. I was even fortunate to turn up a site that (at least appeared) to be by a woman in the industry who was publishing for herself and friends in the industry.

Whether that was the case or not actually mattered less than that was the way it was being presented. The presentation itself brought the issues of control and ethics to the consciousness of the her audience. That statement is true whether it was a clever marketing approach by a standard site or not. Even if I was being duped into consuming images posing as personal but really cynically commercial, the very fact that they felt the need to pretend otherwise spread the awareness and concern of how they should be operating.

The presentation was that of a woman who really enjoyed bondage and who had done work in the sex industry. It seemed real because it seemed like she enjoyed trying varied and different kinds of bondage and positions of bondage. There was no violence or even pretend violence. How could I know? Well the thing was that a big part of the turn on for me was to imagine myself bound like she was bound. I was in sense living vicariously through her. She was not an object so much as a vessel.

The second major impact the digital age has had on my sex life is that I was able to become a producer of erotic pornography as well as a consumer. The digital camera with built in timer allowed that. I started to take pictures of myself in erotic (well to me for sure) poses. And as I would consume other peoples pornography I would then get ideas to explore in my own. I found myself trying things that had either never occurred to me to try or if they had they had not occurred as something that might turn me on. But even if it did not turn me on I found it fun from an "artistic" approach in my photography.

I have always been a feminist. So the issues of ethics and pornography have been there. But your series here has been a very good gut and reality check. It has definitely heightened my awareness of just how oppressive the industry can be and mostly is. My very first reaction to your series was defensiveness. But as it expanded I soon realized that you were not threatening my sexuality per se but reminding me of the responsibilities of my actions. Something like that.

Your work is very expansive and thorough. I want to respond to it in kind and not just toss off a quick comment. But I don't have any constructive critical insights about your work that might help you. So instead I spend a lot of time attempting to give you insights of me, a reasonably typical male, that might help. When I say reasonably typical I mean a male that finds some pornography arousing.

Any way thanks again for a good read. Violet Blue and Erika Lust were already in my bookmarks so I was glad to find some confirmation that some of my tracks were in the right direction.

Jeff Wegerson January 31, 2010 - 11:19am

Thanks for your lengthy and insightful response. It’s courageous of you to share some of the details of your own sexuality. I appreciate it as it gives me a peek into the soul of a man, which, on a political blog, is an infrequent or rare occurrence. I can imagine that for men who identify with the philosophies espoused by feminism and humanism, or, who simply want to change society, it can be difficult to navigate through a cultural milieu that screams: “Maintain the double standard” at every turn. In my final essay I offer some practical tips on how to maneuver through the aggressive media landscape (an instrument of the elite) and duck its bombardment of messages that reinforce the status quo.


Tolerating prostitution is tolerating abuse and torture of women and children.

adrena January 31, 2010 - 5:49pm

but the description of the kind of porn women like is also what I prefer. I hate the abusive shit out there being offered as erotica--anal or rough degrading sex--bordering on rape scenes. Something is seriously wrong with a society that feeds on that.

My only quibble is one I've had with my wife also--women are NOT a lesser species. We, both male and female, are quite clearly of the same species.

At the moment, both genders seem quite confused about our roles as humans.

I did inhale.

Don January 31, 2010 - 2:10pm

Your comment brought a humungous smile to my face. Now I feel there is hope yet.


Tolerating prostitution is tolerating abuse and torture of women and children.

adrena January 31, 2010 - 2:31pm

I'll be reading II & III. Your "typical" male (Weberian style) is nothing to apologize over. It makes the point and addresses a major contradiction - the fine, upstanding soul ... wait, I'll quote myself;) -

"The most awful acts are committed with bland justification by polite people who hide behind institutional trappings; for the sake of the few, at the expense of the many." (Polite Fascism)

Michael Collins January 31, 2010 - 6:01pm

I've long been of the opinion that what's bad about porn is that it's bad...not in the production/storyline/silicon-inflated female way (though it is most often that).

That it's taboo has left it on the shady side of town in seedy adult "bookstores", and that has meant that it is too often the domain of the worst in male fantasies. I'm male, but having been raised by a feminist of the first order i was taught that pron is degrading. That doesn't mean that i don't like, cause i do. So while i was privy to dad's secret stash of traditional porn (divorce) i was also exposed to mom's porn. Oh sure, she would have called it erotic fiction but it was still pornographic.

Dad's stuff worked, but frankly, mom's stuff was better. I welcome porn made by and for women. I'm certainly not afraid, and like Don figure that it will be much more exciting and fulfilling.

The digital revolution has clearly opened up all sorts of new avenues. Not only can anyone make porn today, but it appears that many people love doing so. Lots of people with "imperfect" bodies are eager to share their sexuality with complete strangers through video, and i have to assume that the vast majority of women involved do so because they want to. And that's the biggest issue here isn't it, that women want to and have their wants met.

As it should be, you're not a man yet if you haven't learned that your first order of naked business is to make a woman happy...doing so produces something akin to the miracle of compound interest, but better.

Lex January 31, 2010 - 9:40pm

about your last comment for a while. For the one and a half years that I've been reading on this topic I have never come across anything even close to what you said. In fact, if we use female sexual satisfaction as a gauge, then the state of human sexuality is a complete disaster.

You are a unique person, Lex and a very special human being.


Tolerating prostitution is tolerating abuse and torture of women and children.

adrena February 4, 2010 - 12:43am

Quick Hit: Itty Bitty Titties Banned in Australian Porn

So many jokes come to mind here, but I'm going to leave the analysis to Ms. Naughty on Australia's weird ban:
Why ban small boobs? I can only assume it stems from paranoia that flat chests somehow stir up the pedophiles. And you only need to mention that "p" word to start a full-scale moral panic in Parliament.
Shall we put such hysteria aside and look at what this ruling is saying to Australian women? Basically, it's classing a certain normal female body type as obscene. It's declaring all flat chests to be automatically juvenile, something that should not be viewed by anyone because of a fear that it will stir up "base instincts" in certain people.

from Australia's 'small breast' ban hattip UB.

Depictions of Female Orgasm Being Banned by Australian Classification Board (this one is a gratuitous piece by Fiona Patten who is the loud mouthpiece for prostitution and sex in Canberra)

graham February 1, 2010 - 12:18am

I found this article an interesting complement to yours. The tendency of porn to be home made by amateurs is an interesting intrepretation of the John Edwards/Rielle Hunter sex tape that I'd suppose she made, given that she was the videographer for the campaign.
I really can't fathom why a prominent politician would allow something like that to go on film. But evidently people are doing it all over the country and they want to share.
Also, the interest in orgasmic facial expressions as a measure of pornographic authencity is one driver of this amateur porn boom...as shown at the website, beautifulagony.com ...and because they are only showing faces probably doesn't qualify as porn.
I also find it interesting that the lesbian couple in film 'The Kids Are All Right' watch gay sex porn for part of their erotic pleasure.
And then I think about Julius Caesar complaining about my ancestors making love in public , blue tats and all.
This discussion has been going on for a long time.
We surely are the first cousins to the bonobos.

JT February 1, 2010 - 1:17pm

What a comment this is on the entire issue of male fears. We're not far from the day when women can clone themselves. No matter how many choose to do that, the principal will established: women don't need men to perpetuate the species. We were essential, but now only a choice. This guy thinks he has a solution but it is really a surrender - to a fantasy.


Las Vegas, Nevada (CNN) -- To some men, she might seem like the perfect woman: She's a willowy 5 feet 7 and 120 pounds. She'll chat with you endlessly about your interests. And she'll have sex whenever you please -- as long as her battery doesn't run out.

Meet Roxxxy, who may be the world's most sophisticated talking female sex robot. For $7,000, she's all yours. http://tinyurl.com/ykktc5q

I just noticed that this inventor looks a lot like the character Machine in "8MM."

Michael Collins February 1, 2010 - 5:03pm

I sincerly hope that what you're suggesting will never come to be. I love men too much for that. We'll find a way to slay that basterd, the Armageddon, together - men and women.


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adrena February 2, 2010 - 12:27am

That's cause for optimism. I'm hoping that there's a plurality, at least, of women who exercise their right to choose. When the obligation is removed the relationships will be more meaningful and even creative.

Michael Collins February 2, 2010 - 4:37pm

On that note, here is a politician I can admire ... Micheal Ignatieff, the leader of the Liberal Party in Canada. Here is what he said about women's reproductive rights.

... If Stephen Harper wants to champion the health of the world's poor mothers, he'll have to go to bat for abortion, too, Michael Ignatieff says.

The Prime Minister has signalled that he plans to make maternal health in the developing world Canada's cause when he is host of the G8 summit in June.

Mr. Ignatieff said any efforts to reduce high death rates among mothers will have to include broader access to contraception. He also raised a fear that the Conservatives, like their counterparts in the United States, would shy away from funding family-planning agencies that support abortion rights.

“If we're going to improve maternal health and child health around the world, women need access to the full gamut of reproductive health services,” the Liberal leader told reporters Tuesday.
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adrena February 2, 2010 - 11:43pm

Harper's a bit of a paranoid. His concern about maternal and child health should have this lead, "If you liked what we did for Haiti, mothers and children of the world, get ready for our efforts since we're now targeting you.

This is off topic, maybe, but I think a great deal of the obsession with intrigue, violence, and suffering deliberately caused is a result of the sense of sexual inadequacy by the people/men in charge. It's the most deadly defect.

Michael Collins February 3, 2010 - 12:45am

PostHumanPornography

This image posted on a website elicited the following response from a man. "Wow, we can mutilate her to our heart's content." The thought alone made me shudder.


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adrena February 2, 2010 - 12:57am

I would like to remind that heterosexual women are the minority in females.


-- Do you feel bad for Obama? He’s the president — he kind of asked for it.

Singular February 1, 2010 - 8:28pm

Gay men and heterosexual women 'have similar brains'

Can you provide a link for yours.


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adrena February 1, 2010 - 11:15pm

other men express a dislike for it. But then I don't talk about porn as a matter of course and they might say that even if they felt otherwise. Clearly there is a market for the stuff because there's so much of it.

kovacs February 4, 2010 - 4:08pm

I doubt that any man would admit to his friends that he enjoys watching a woman getting gang raped and then stuffed into a garbage can.


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adrena February 4, 2010 - 10:14pm

I think guys who are into the really extreme stuff like that are a very small percentage of the population.

kovacs February 5, 2010 - 2:20pm

It is well known that viewing hardcore pornography leads to increased tolerance towards sexually explicit materials that requires more explicit and brutal images to achieve the same level of arousal or interest. The steady growth of hardcore pornography in which sex equals humiliating and degrading women bears this out. Stats


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adrena February 6, 2010 - 2:16am

It's disgraceful. The evidence supporting this is there, as you pointed out. It's interesting that the prevalence of violence in video games and the media doesn't have strong connection to actual violence but violent porn does. I think the difference is this - the many playing the video games don't have the options or plans to go out and commit violent acts. It's a vicarious experience. With violent porn, consumers actually have options to enact some or all of their fantasies. I'm not talking about organized DBSM where limits are clearly established by mutual agreement. Rather, it's the free lancing by men who derive a sanction to behave violently toward women by seeing it in visual media. The violent porn doesn't start the process. It enables a "pre-existing condition."

Michael Collins February 6, 2010 - 2:40am

Violent porn enables a "pre-existing condition". It sounds so reassuring. If only it were true. But more on that in my next diary entry.


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adrena February 7, 2010 - 12:49am

The Playboy I found in the woods at the age of 10 wouldn't have the same effect now. But I would never enjoy "watching a woman getting gang raped and then stuffed into a garbage can" and I still maintain that only a small percentage of men would.

Those statistics don't tell me much of anything. What does "hardcore" mean? It may or may not refer to "pornography in which sex equals humiliating and degrading women" but I have no way to tell. Similarly, what does "title" mean? Are we talking physical DVDs in stores or is the internet included? On a somewhat related note I'm curious as to how those numbers have changed since 2005.

kovacs February 6, 2010 - 5:59pm

Hardcore = bestiality, piss-drinking, aggressive throat-fucking, bukkake, gang bangs, triple anal penetrations - no credit card required. And yes, this is degrading to women. How would you like a woman pissing on your face? Would you call that sex? And yes, the number of porn websites have increased since 2005. It's porn, porn, porn, everywhere you look. Porn fashion (porn chic), fast food porn etc. And it's all for YOUR benefit, sir.

FastFoodPorn


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adrena February 7, 2010 - 12:43am

just some projected stereotype. That's kind of what I'm objecting to in the first place. If you just want to vent or push and agenda, well then ok. I'll go elsewhere. If not, let me try and explain myself:

Hardcore = bestiality, piss-drinking, aggressive throat-fucking, bukkake, gang bangs, triple anal penetrations - no credit card required.

I agree. That's hardcore. "Hardcore" can mean a lot of different things, depending on whom you ask. The site you linked to doesn't give a definition for hardcore, or tell me where I can find the study in question. There's a list of sources, but it's long and undifferentiated. The list is prefaced with the following:

Statistics are compiled from the credible sources mentioned. In reality, statistics are hard to ascertain and may be estimated by local and regional worldwide sources.

Not helpful.

In addition, that site is trying to sell me porn filtering software and a porn addiction treatment guide. There goes objectivity.

And yes, this is degrading to women. How would you like a woman pissing on your face? Would you call that sex?

I would like to point out that these are the very first words I wrote in this thread:

Not only do I not enjoy abusive porn

Now that that's out of the way,
1. Of course it's degrading to women. I never said otherwise.
2. I wouldn't like a woman pissing on my face. I wouldn't like to piss on a woman's face. I wouldn't like to see or be a part of anyone pissing on anyone.
3. I wouldn't call that sex, no. Some people would. Is it OK if a woman pisses on a man's face? That does happen. If so, why?

You're also assuming that people never engage in some of these acts voluntarily. THAT is wishful thinking. I knew a girl in high school who talked openly and often about wanting to have sex with a german shepherd. I don't know where she got the idea from. Perhaps she saw some bestiality porn. But she was certainly convincing enough that I believe she really wanted to do it. I find bestiality disgusting, but I also felt that it was her choice to do what she wanted. I just wished she would stop talking about it. What do you think?

And yes, the number of porn websites have increased since 2005.


That's not the same thing as the number "hardcore titles released." I agree that the number of porn sites has increased since 2005. But your data certainly does not show that. And your original point, that most men enjoy porn involving "watching a woman getting gang raped and then stuffed into a garbage can" stands absolutely unproven. A small percentage of sociopaths do, but that's it. If you want to convince me otherwise you're going to have to make a much better case, especially since you've already played fast and loose with the numbers.

Now... why am I so sensitive about all this? Because such generalizations about males and masculinity have had an absolutely toxic effect on many males of the younger generations. I'm speaking from direct personal experience, and I'm not the only one:
http://www.madatoms.com/site/blog/the-90s-killed-my-sexual-growth
http://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/al70m/how_the_90s_killed_sex/c0i73t3

I've had at LEAST five female teachers over the years who thought it was perfectly OK to make the worst generalizations about men. Even now I have a professor talks about all of the "bad boys"(her words) she used to date, including one who was a bank robber. Naturally, she's bitter. But guess what? I never robbed a bank. I don't watch porn which involves your list of hardcore acts. Most men don't, either.

And then there's the Burger King ad. Really? Using sex to manipulate me into buying death on a bun is for my benefit? You must be joking. If that's for my benefit, then by the same logic this ad was for your benefit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubsd-tWYmZw
Yes, the media stereotype that men are stupid is a favorite these days. By the way, this ad aired in 2006. Right in the middle of the housing bubble.

kovacs February 11, 2010 - 1:26am

I didn't address my rant to what you specifically said. My apologies.

As for the site I linked - in pornography, there are many different opinions about cause and effect. When you read my next essay, you will realize that I don't play fast and loose with the numbers. I include valid studies and listen to the narratives of men and women.

Regarding the girl in high school - my series is about society in general, not about some isolated weirdos.

Also, this topic leaves one open to accusations of generelizing about men. But remember that in A Lesser Species - part 1, I stated that my essay wasn't about bashing men and I linked to an article that discussed how many men resent the view that they are only interested in sex. However, a few good men do not a society make.

And I agree that the story you linked to, about a young men's first experience with women is very sad. But I've read stories that are far worse. For example, a woman falsely accused a gym teacher of sexually harassing her, after he had rejected her sexual advances. Or the emotional traumas experienced by teachers who have been falsely accused of sexually abusing one of their students. One could write a book about this but again, this is not the topic I'm discussing in my series.

As for the Burger King ad, I should have said: "It's all for MEN's benefit. I wasn't referring to just you. So, I apologize for that too.

Anyway, most of your questions and/or concerns will be answered in the next essay.

Thanks for this discussion.


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adrena February 11, 2010 - 10:40pm

You mentioned that I just might want to vent or push an agenda. You're partly right about that. My series is not about venting but about a genuine attempt to bring men and women back to each other again - to the way they were many thousand years ago. But in order to do that I first need to dissect the ulcerating wound that society has become - get to the bottom of it, expose its ugliness and the foul odour that emanates from its debris. This process, even though it may provoke a range of uncomfortabe emotions, is necessary for the wound to begin to heal.

The elites are driving men and women apart. Divided we fall, united we stand a much better chance of restoring and bringing justice to the many ills that befall society.


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