Online Phd Education Degree, Touro Online Phd In Bus Admin

Q: I have been asking lots of questions, as John Bear has also. In addition to the 400 page request that Touro Univ. International sent in to the MSA for accreditation, I received the following in an e-mail from them this morning... We appreciate your concern. Touro college, in New York, has submitted a Substantive Change Application to MSA to include Touro University International under its general accreditation. This request was submitted two months ago and we are awaiting for a response shortly. We are confident that Touro University International will indeed be accredited by MSA before the start of our program in February.

A:I think it goes even further than the improper claim. The big ads Touro is running in The Economist this month clearly call it a regionally accredited on-line Doctorate. According to Touro University International's website, the online school is located in Los Alamitos, Ca. So, would NY registration even be necessary? I would be willing to bet that TUI has not even applied to NY. A California branch of an out-of-state regionally accredited university needs California approval, but that is much easier to obtain than New York approval. Which is probably the reason for the California address. (Whether they have actually bothered to apply for California approval, I don't know.) But TUI is clearly advertising itself as already being accredited by MS

A: But they are operating entirely new programs, including a new totally non-resident doctorate of a kind that has not been accredited before in the United States. They are operating under a new name, in a different state, in the territory of a different regional accreditor. And they only sent a Substantive Change Application to the MSA two months ago, and have not received a response yet. On one hand, to keep the New York Regents happy, and to avoid likely NY state disapproval of their on-line doctorate, they need to argue that TUI is a wholly separate operation from Touro College. But in order to extend their existing MSA accreditation to TUI, they need to argue that it is just a branch of Touro College. So, they either endanger their existing NY charter, or lose the MSA umbrella over TUI. (And WASC has never accredited a stand-alone distance ed school.) This problem is in *addition* to TUI's already advertising themselves (in the 'Wall Street Journal' and the 'Economist') as MSA accredited, without approval by the MSA of their substantive change application. An approval that I suspect may be some time coming, at least until the dilemma above is clarified. So I'd like to echo Lawrene France. Please keep us informed of what you find out from the New York State Education officials about this.

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