Any Idea Abt Microsoft's Dubious Executive Training?
Q: Any idea abt Microsoft's dubious executive training? As I have mentioned in another post, Microsoft has been sighted sending off their executives to a very dubious and mysterious training seminar, organized by former leaders of a cult called Mind Dynamics, also known in the 1970's as B.E.
A: T. and currently known as Landmark Education. The methodology of the old B.E.
A: T./M.D. seminars was to break down a person's personality to the ground by insults and even severe psychological and minor physical abuse - such as a slap in the face or pushing someone over - and by locking the seminar guests into a conference room for 48 hours without that they could even go to the bathroom. They were simply told to wet themselves if the need arose, in quite vulgar language. Then, after insulting and humiliating their "guests" until they had lost all sense of dignity and self-worth, the seminar speakers would start recreating their personalities into cold and hard egos. The message was that there are no such things as right or wrong, good or bad. There was only opportunity, information and action. The "I am God" principle of Anton LaVey, the now deceased leader of the Church of Satan, was part of this altered way of thinking. I've personally seen the humiliation and abuse in a television broadcast regarding this controversial training when I was still a teenager, i.e. the mid- to late 1970's. It was however only when Landmark and their origins were being referred to on Usenet in relation to Microsoft executives attending their seminars that I began remembering this "training group" from the TV reports in my youth. I also believe such a seminar to feature as a background scene in a comedy with Burt Reynolds, also from around that time, but I've forgotten the name of the movie. In that movie, the character played by Burt Reynolds - a cowboyish writer - attends such a meeting together with his two best friends - a man and a woman - because they are interested in improving their personalities so they could deal better with the world. He himself is however not impressed, and when it is time for him to take a leak, you can see him sitting there with a very big grin on his face while you here the urine splashing on the floor. But anyway, back to the seriousness of reality, and so below you can find the hyperlink to the Microsoft "involvement" with this group... http://www.rickross.com/reference/landmark/landmark36.html More information about Landmark - among which some shocking reports from former seminar attenders and their relatives - can be found here... http://www.rickross.com/groups/landmark.html
A: - Based on what I've read in books, this sounds like Microsoft itself, at least in its early days. - I don't see anything in that link about MS-employees being locked up and forced to wet themselves. Rumored? Where are these rumors or are you the one trying to start the rumor? So now "Microsoft brass ALL go through..." which would certainly include Gates and Ballmer. Seems that it's no longer a rumor and now a statement of fact. Do you have any PROOF that ALL ms brass go through this or is this another one of these "rumors" that you cannot prove? The very first paragraph of your link ("Microsoft Paid For Culty Clinics") says - "Staffers at the embattled company have been reimbursed for attending the Landmark Forum, a marathon "improvement" session which promises everything from better health to "breakthroughs" that will dramatically change the lives of its followers." Furthermore - "For Microsoft Employees: The course is approved external training by Microsoft and is typically covered by Microsoft if you make a request of your manager." I don't see anything about employees and brass being "forced" to attend these things. What I see is a company where some of the 60,000+ employees attended a seminar and they submitted a reimbursement form and got their money reimbursed. How you came to the absurd conclusion that Gates and Ballmer attended and that anyone was forced to attend this is still unexplained. Somehow you connected the dots and concluded that this seminar involved self-humliation and wetting oneself. I don't see anything on your link that suggests that. In another post you mentioned that wintrolls are biased and twist the facts. It seems obvious that you took a simple mention on some obscure web-site that MS reimbursed some employees for attending a contraversial seminar and twisted it into Gates and Ballmer attending a devil-worshiping seminar where they enjoy wetting themselves.