Financial Times Top 100 Mba Programs - 2003 Rankings
Q: Emory improves to #22, UGA stays about the same at #80, but Georgia
Tech drops from #85 in the world to #94 in the world, the lowest
ranked U.S. business school on the list.
A:To provide a little balance here, Georgia Tech is hardly to be condemned for
their placement in the Financial Times list. There are 57 US business
schools listed in the FT rankings. On the one hand, 57th is not the
greatest. OTOH, however, when comparing Georgia Tech to its cohort, which I
will define as engineering schools in the USNews top 50 doctoral rankings,
it comes out fine. (The consort is MIT, Cal Tech, Lehigh, RPI, Carnegie
Mellon, and Case Western Reserve. This is pretty arbitrary, since several
other top 50 schools have outstanding engineering programs, but I digress.)
Within those seven, Georgia Tech ranks fourth among business schools in
predominantly technical or engineering universities, loosely formulated.
However, there's a bigger story here. Comparing the FT list to the USNews
top 50:
- 21 of the 57 schools improved their ranking in FT versus USNews, and four
held the same ranking
- 27 of the schools ranked within ten places of their placement on the other
list (going off the top 123 in USNews). I used the FT ranking, not the
placement within the US for this comparison.
- Many schools - I didn't try to count this - had highly ranked business
schools, but were outside the top fifty in the USNews rankings.
And this is the important thing to consider. University Of South Carolina
ranked 112th on the US News list, but was 23rd in the US among the FT list.
Arizona State is rated third tier by USNews, 42nd in the US by FT. There
are more examples.
Why is that? Well, one reason is that it's easier to get big donors to
bankroll a business school than a philosophy department, for example. I
think 34 of the 57 USA schools ranked in the FT list had a colon in the
name, most of which had donor names following it. (UC: Irvine would seem to
be a typical exception, although I think the Irvine family gave a lot to the
university.)
Another reason is that business schools are independent, to a great degree,
of the undergraduate university. In the case of Thunderbird, there is none.
And several schools (like UCLA) don't have undergraduate business
departments, but still have top B-schools.
So...lists like this are not exactly meaningless, but you do need to keep
things in perspective when choosing a B-school.
Well, I don't know if the way you are defining your cohort is a particularly
meaningful category to consider. Several elite primarily-engineering or
primarily-technical schools don't run a business school at all - CalTech
being the most important case.
Many other schools have tremendously powerful technical/engineering programs
but aren't primarily technical/engineering per se. For example, I think
we'd all agree that Stanford and Berkeley are not primarily engineering
schools, yet I think we also all agree that both have elite engineering
programs. Many other schools fall into this category. Of those schools,
some have no B-school at all (i.e. Princeton). Others have B-schools that
by any measure outclass that of GT. For example, Harvard (yes, Harvard is
in the top 20 of engineering PhD programs), Berkeley/Haas, Michigan,
UCLA/Anderson , Northwestern/Kellogg, Stanford, Penn/Wharton, Illinois,
UT-Austin, Purdue/Krannert, Cornell, Wisconsin, Columbia, and the list goes
on.
But I think the real proof of the pudding is to think about what kind of
mindset you would be if you wanted to attend a B-school. Even if you came
from a deep engineering background and you like engineering and you'd
therefore prefer to get your MBA from a school that had a deep engineering
tradition, I don't think that the fact that the school may not be
predominantly engineering is really going to be a consideration. For
example, I have trouble conceiving of a person who would not consider, say,
Stanford B-school, on the grounds that Stanford does not have enough of an
engineering orientation.
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